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Walking by Faith or Sight?
Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 05:08 AM

Ecclesiastes 12:12 "....Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body."

Proverbs 21:30 "There is no wisdom, no insight, no plan that can succeed against the LORD."



We are called to walk by Faith and not by sight. Obviously one must study to know what to have Faith in. However do you think to much studying is actually a attempt to walk by sight? And if so, where do you think that invisible line is where you leave the walk of Faith and attempt to walk by sight, by only walking only in what you have figured out; those things that you think you can see through formulas and logic.

Could it be the un-educated have superstition and rituals and the over- educated have logic and formulas?

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Walking by Faith or Sight?
Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 12:09 PM

Walking by Faith or Sight?

*** Faith...without ya Aint gona See the Forrest through the Trees...xo



Shared ~ People will grow tried of reading and hearing the same things men write and interpreting what man has tried to interpret of God's word.



*** You got that right Sister...:yay:...How many Books does it take to Read & Understand the Bible ???... ( 3 )...The Bible, a Good Concordance and a Dictionary...People make Millions of $$$$ Re-Packaging the Word that is Already Written...Everything a Person Needs to Know about GOD, Jesus, Holy Spirit is Found in the Bible...xo

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Walking by Faith or Sight?
Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 05:34 PM

Hal-le-lu-yer! sista Jude! Ha-le-lu-yer!:ROFL::winksmile:

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Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 07:12 PM

What you are calling logic Ryan is of the mind, the proof is in the pudding,

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Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 08:26 PM

Actually I'm speaking of reality, what you are calling logic is of the mind. Proof is in the pudding.

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Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 04:25 AM

LSU,

No, logic relies on your perception of reality. You perceive God exists therefore He does not 'not exist'. You perceive your doctrine as truth.... therefore you logically conclude the word "dead" in Ephesians must mean literally spiritually. I perceive the word as figurative spiritually per context.... therefore my doctrine.

You see the real question becomes what you base your perception on. You perceive the Bible through the lens of your doctrine. Therefore you don't base your logic on the Bible, but your perception of the Bible as viewed through the lens of Calvinism. Your perception of the Bible is Reformed doctrines. You even let Calvinism tell you how to perceive us as Arminians, which I can tell you first hand is Not reality.

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Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 08:05 AM

Twosparrows - No, logic relies on your perception of reality. You perceive God exists therefore He does not 'not exist'. You perceive your doctrine as truth.... therefore you logically conclude the word "dead" in Ephesians must mean literally spiritually



Ryan - I don't have to perceive that God exists or not. If He does exist, then He doesn't 'not exist'. Whether my mind grasps it or not, it's a reality. You attempt to use logic in several of your points and even sarcastically quote the word 'logical' in your posts, not realizing that you are doing the same thing you criticize me of trying to understand scriptural things with logic.



There you go again saying that the literal meaning of death in Ephesians would have to mean spiritual. No the literal meaning of death would be a physical. So if you would like to play that game, I believe it's a figurative death as well. I just happen to also believe it's a literal spiritual death.



twosparrows - I perceive the word as figurative spiritually per context.... therefore my doctrine.

Ryan - then both our beliefs are logical? Look the way both of us go about coming up with our belief may be logical. You have a logical way of coming to synergism. I have a logical way of coming to monergism. That is of the mind, I agree. However when you look at the answer, only synergism or monergism is a reality.



twospparrows - You even let Calvinism tell you how to perceive us as Arminians, which I can tell you first hand is Not reality.

Ryan - explain

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Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 05:26 PM

"only synergism or monergism is a reality"

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For you to believe that, you have to believe God treats everyone the same, all the time, and treats a individual the same all the time. You see....you have made a assumption that flies in the face of the Sovereignty of God.

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Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 06:08 PM

Because I believe monergism and synergism can't both be right?

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Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 06:27 PM

Why not? God is no respector of persons.

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Posted : 7 Apr, 2011 10:18 PM

God not being a respecter of persons has nothing to do with the fact that monergism and synergism can't both be right.

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