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Admin	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 5 Apr, 2011 04:35 PM Curious? What is the obvious truth that most Calvinists will not admit? Even though it is blatantly obvious. Although you may find a honest Calvinist who will admit this truth. They are rare, for once they reach this level of honesty, they become a endangered species. Do you think James or Ryan could be such men? Shall we find out? Here is the obvious truth that only a indoctrinated Calvinist cannot see : *Calvinism is a commentary on the Gospel* The ramifications of this simple truth should be self apparent. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 07:04 AM Twosparrows - I may be wrong but you seem to assume the those who believe in the doctrines of grace study Calvin or Calvinism. I know for me and my life that is not the case and is not the case for many other that believe in the doctrines of grace. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 07:13 AM twosparrows said: There is a big difference between reading and studying the Bible asking the Holy Spirit to guide you into all truth and reading and studying the interpretations of mans commentary on the Bible. These methods of study are not mutually exclusive, however I would rather imperfectly follow the leading of the Holy Spirit than follow perfectly the interpretations of man. James replies: This is childish. I get so tired of reading, "You follow mans doctrine" and " I don't follow traditions of men". Newsflash, YOU.....are a man. ALL your Christian brothers and sisters, and ALL the preachers and teachers of the Bible ARE ALSO HUMAN BEINGS. You are using a nonsensical statement, first and then advocating WITHOUT ADMITTING IT, the practice of following your private religious hunches INSTEAD OF listening to the Body of Christ. I have never even thought of listening to what lost men think about the Bible. No one has ever said that we should listen to the world, and what it says about the Bible. We are talking Christians, and Christians only. We are talking about listening to men OF GOD, whom God has raised up to expound on His Word. How is it when you consider all of church history and what all Christians have said, that you say that is "interpretations of men", but when YOU rely instead on your own private religious hunches that, that is NOT an interpretation of man??? In Christ, James Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 07:16 AM Yes James because his hunches are from God, but no other man's hunches are. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 09:25 AM No James as usual you speak of opinion's and statements of men that do not follow God, the holy spirit does give hunches it is called revelations, know when you speak of hunches, that is exactly what you proclaim, the fruit of natural man. It has not merit with the word of God what you say, the bible pattern is to follow men that follow Christ, not those that follow after the flesh and the mind of man which is Satan's target. I wholeheartedly encourage you to repent of following reformation theology and it's sin of rejecting Jesus. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 09:40 AM PJ, take two people, who both say they get their truths straight from God and don't follow man. The only issue is, their supposed truths are opposing. Who is right? Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 09:48 AM Very simple the one that follows the word of God, it is not complicated, religion brings in all the doubt, confusion, unbelief. If a man can not know the truth, he can not know God. Maybe some need to get simple because Jesus said even the simple would understand. know the truth. Make the word of God your source, and anyone will change, and so will the words of there mouth. It is totally the word of man that says man in spiritual death can not hear and believe God, the bible never said that, plus it is full of examples of people doing just that. Man's relationship with God starts with the hearing the word of God and then believing it, and acting in line with what you believe. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 09:53 AM So just to understand, simply to claim that you get truth from the Spirit means nothing? The claim is just a claim about what a MAN THINKS correct? You must test truth with the word, right? Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 09:59 AM Can you break your question down? Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 10:04 AM Meaning when Two says he gets truth from the Spirit while others don't, it's simply a claim from a man and nothing more. Anyone can say it. Post Reply
View Profile History	* The Obvious Truth that Only a Honest Calvinist would Admit * Posted : 6 Apr, 2011 10:05 AM But one of his main points is that we shouldn't follow what man says. Post Reply

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