16In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven. Matthew 5:16
Ryan when one believes in opposition to the word of God and receives a corrupted seed, such as one must be born again to believe, they without repentance will continue to hear in agreement with the corrupted seed they planted in their heart.
when one believes in opposition to the word of God and receives a corrupted seed, such as one must be born again to believe, they without repentance will continue to hear in agreement with the corrupted seed they planted in their heart.
James replies:
Because of the Fall, EVER PERSON EVER BORN "believes in opposition to the Word of God."
You did get it right that "one must be born again to believe."
You have to be born again FIRST.....in order to believe.
James, where in the world do you get the faulty notion that a person has to be born agian before they can believe? That's like saying have a baby comes first then you will get pregnant!..
That is so far out in left field, the Bibles says Jesus , John the Baptist and the apostles came preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ unto Repentanc of sins first, and the people believed, and THEN received the Holy Spirit and were baotized.
And as Peter and all the rest said and preached,believe, repent, and THEN be baptized and THEN you shall receive the Holy Spirit (1) Faith tob elieve comes through hearing and hearing, and hearing of the gospel of Jesus Christ, this give us FAITH TO BELIEVE; (2) There Must be Repentance of sins; (3) a confusion of the Faith in Jesus Chirst with the mouth (4) if possible and in following of the gosple baptism, and only then is a person IMMEDIATELY filled with the Holy Spirit to seal them until the day of redemption upn confession of their sins and the Lord Jesus Chirst. Romans chapter 10...
Can't find it laid out no other way thoughout the gospels and the book of Acts. The gospel was preached, people believed and repented of their sins, and were baptized.
Receiving the Holy Spirit is the One who cause a person to be considered as being born again, and He does not live in an unclean house. You cannot be consider cleansed until you have done all the necessary steps to clean , it like washing a shirt, until you place the shirt in the water with sopa it will not get cleaned, and only after you have done alll the necessary steps to assure that it will be cleaned, can you say it is a clean shirt.
Same with the indewlling of the Holy Spirit, you must first do all the necessary steps required in the salvation plan, before the Holy Spirit comes to live inside and seal you up as being washed and safe and born again from above, there is a biblical process that God put into order..
Nicodemus believed in Jesus and was firends with Jesus, even though he was a chief Pharisee, and afraid of being kicked out the synagogue, so he came at night to see Jesus,.
But he made a directstatement to Jesus in his quest to know more about the kingdom of God.
Jesus responded to Nic's statement, about doing miracles, then Jesus told him how a person had to be born again(filled with the Holy Spirit in order to get this power Jesus had to do miracles) which only come through the Holy Spirit.
Then Nic asked Jesus how a person could be born again a second time, and Jesus explained to him how the Holy Spirit worked in a believers life.
Jesus first sermon was Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand. and so was this the message the apsotle preached, and even Cornilus when God sent for Peter, the bIble says, Peter came to him and preached first about Jesus, and then the Holy Spirit fell upon Cornilus, because he was prayed up and wanted to know Jesus, and be saved, and his whole household was saved, and they were all baptized.
Now where in the Bible can you find where anyone received the Holy Spirit first BEFORE they heard the gospel and had faith to believed...sorry, but that's in error of the truth in God's word. C/mon now!
Well, I post on letting our light shine, and here we are again with people on this group, making a golden calf out of their supposed free will they think they have!
I will ask you ET, where do YOU get off pretending that you can make yourself be born again????
Ephesians 2:8,9 says that faith itself is a gift from God.
We have TWENTY verses of Scripture that say that the Holy Spirit MAKES a person come alive, and THEN that person believes.
You need to face up the facts of Scripture!
ALL mankind is born completely spiritually DEAD with not only NO free will, but with a will ENSLAVED TO SIN.
I have posted scriptures that say this OVER AND OVER.
I will gladly do it again!
GOD saves.............YOU DO NOT SAVE YOUR SELF BY SOME IMAGINARY FREE WILL DECISION.
The Bible says that GOD......puts a new heart in someone, AND THEN.........that person says, "I want to be a Christian".
