When any individual takes the position to boldly declare their doctrine is the way, the most accurate and their doctrine is based upon man and what they call church history,
They have taken a modern position by Satan and exalted themselves above the throne of God.
The church needs to wake up and quit thinking it is a little off, and call it for what it is a lie, And we no who the father of lies is, form now until the lord returns believers need to establish themselves in truth and do what ever is necessary to walk in it.
Once saved, always saved is not in the bible.
A lie does not produce Faith, and this is a topic most of the body of Christ does not understand, and when you do not understand faith it is impossible to know God.
Church it is way past time to awake to the truth, and thirst and hunger after the truth with an appetite that is not easily satisfied.
When you boldly proclaim this scripture is not applicable to all people thru out the world and at all times, you are boldly denying the Lord Jesus.
You are rejecting the truth, the word of God!!
You are rejecting the word of Faith!!
You are rejecting life!!
You are rejecting the light of the word you are to walk in.
You are rejecting the sacrifice that Jesus made.
You are calling God a liar!!
This is not acceptable toe the lord and his church,
Ro 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
1Co 15:34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Mt 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Mt 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mt 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
It is past time for all to realize this is not an attack against certain people that proclaim a lie and live a lie, we are to pray for them that they would come to the truth.
We are commanded to light our light so shine and mark those that proclaim another Gospel
It is the truth we know that brings liberty, don't you or your loved ones be caught in this lie.
The lord is good to all who call upon his name, and quick to forgive.
James wrote, "Who said Scripture is not applicable to all people?"
Your view does... All doesn't mean all. Especially when it comes to God's love of humanity and those Christ died for.
James replies:
God has commanded every human being to repent and trust in Jesus.
That means that the Bible, the Word of God, applies to everyone.
And yes, the word "all" in those passages you are speaking of does not mean "everyone who ever lived" but "all of God's elect."
Do you know that there are people who believe, because of the
"all" verses that God will save every single person who ever lived? They use the same verses to support what is called universalism, meaning God saves everyone.
Shared ~ A Brief and Untechnical Statement of the Reformed Faith...by Benjamin B. Warfield...
*** Another Opinion and View...because the Christian Peoples here are not buying what you are selling ???...go figer...
James replies:
I have said several times on this group that I don't believe in private interpretation, but that we should pay attention to church history and what our brothers and sisters in Christ have believed. We have two thousand years of church history that we can look at.
Here is a sentence to remember:
"Church history should not rule our interpretation of Scripture,
but it should GUIDE our interpretation of Scripture."
And Jude if you disagree, you disagree, but at least you will be getting SOME idea of What Christians in the past believed.
Is that so bad? You can understand a bit about what Reformed Christians believe, and what Presbytarians believe, and what is wrong with that?
Jude continues:
It is Not that ALL Reformers Follow, Preach, Practice Another Doctrine...The TRUTH is some Persons on this Site do...xo
Why is it called Reformed Theology? God NEVER commands or exhorts us to be REFORMED... God exhorts and commands us to be TRANSFORMED!
James replies:
After a THOUSAND YEARS of darkness, the Bible literally being chained to the lecturn, the Bible was printed into the language of the common man!!!
This period of Christian history is known as THE REFORMATION.
The reason is, that the church was reformed, or shaped back into what it was in the beginning. What it was supposed to be.
ETcallhome said:
There is a BIG difference between a person being REFORMED IN the word of God, and a person being TRANSFORMED BY THE WORD OF GOD!
James replies:
Yes, that is true. A person could believe all the right things, and still be lost. It takes the Holy Spirit to transform a totally spiritually dead person, and make them come alive spiritually.
Maybe your post was to PhilipJohn, because he started this thread?
Shared ~ I have said several times on this group that I don't believe in private interpretation,
*** Yes you have said that many times�but You keep pushing a Dead Mans [Calvin ISM ] Doctrine� I agree there is no private interpretation�the Holy Spirit does that�the Helper Christ Jesus ask the Father to send us that Believe unto him�
Shared ~ but that we should pay attention to church history and what our brothers and sisters in Christ have believed. We have two thousand years of church history that we can look at.
*** Agree with Over 2000 years of History. I�m well aware of Church History James�Raised Protestant�can you tell ?�Lutheren / Baptist / throw in a lil Messianic and Prest O Change O...:excited:... God has his self a Non-Denominatioal �Christian��My mother God Bless her Soul is a History Major and Teacher�it runs in the family�:rolleyes:...Family History is traced back as far as the 1200�s so far�My point here James�You aint the ONLY person on this Site with an IQ higher than Average�and Why on GOD�s green Earth would you Continually Post Articles by Other People with thier Views and Opinions that are Not Inline with Scripture trying to Sway the Christian Peoples here to CONVERT to Calvin ( ISM )�No one here is going to Agree with You or Calvin�s Doctrine unless they are Reformers such as you�Like I said�No one is Buying what you are Selling�or should I say Peddling�:angeldevil:...
Shared ~ And Jude if you disagree, you disagree, but at least you will be getting SOME idea of What Christians in the past believed.
*** You know I disagree Whole Heartedly�and I do have a Understanding�Not an Idea of What Christians in the Past Believed�You Crack me Up !!!!�:laugh:...You Agree to Allow me to Disagree and then Insult me with an SOME Idea comment�GeeeWeezzzzz�.Some Peoples Children�:toomuch:...
Shared ~ Here is a sentence to remember: "Church history should not rule our interpretation of Scripture, but it should GUIDE our interpretation of Scripture."
*** Of course a Word from Someone Else and Not ANY Word�:dunce:...
Here is a few Verses to Remember ~
Prov 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; [ and lean not unto thine own understanding. ]
James 3:13 Who [is] a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
2 Peter 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,
You keep pushing a Dead Mans [Calvin ISM ] Doctrine� I agree there is no private interpretation�the Holy Spirit does that�the Helper Christ Jesus ask the Father to send us that Believe unto him�
James replies:
So, if I ONLY quote Christians who lived BEFORE the Reformation, you would not have a problem with that?????
Hey, there is an idea for a new thread right there.
Thanks, Jude!
Jude said:
Lutheren / Baptist / throw in a lil Messianic
James replies:
It is sad about the Lutherans. Luther wrote a book called
"the bondage of the Will", and he said it was the MOST important thing he ever did. And today you ask lutherans, and they all think we have this perfectly free will, and none of them have even heard of Luther's book!
Baptist? unless you went to a freewill baptist church, the baptists call Calvinism, "the doctrines of grace."
They believe it, and it is taught in all their seminaries.
Sad to say that most Baptist preachers never mention it in their sermons. They are like secret calvinists.
Messianic? Well, they range from very bad legalistic groups to very good groups. I worshiped with some in Ukraine, and they were wonderful people.
Jude continues:
No one is Buying what you are Selling�or should I say Peddling�...
James replies:
Yeah, about that.....I have said this before, and I guess I need to say it again. Check the last five threads I have started.
What were they about???
This thread, like the last four you and others complained about, was started NOT BY ME, but by someone else.
PhillipJohn started this one. So you what you are saying is that I should just shut up when someone else titles the thread "Reformed theology"? I don't think anyone on here knows Reformed theology very well at all. It is just a bunch of Arminians mad that someone disagrees with them.
So, why are all the Arminians on this group not "peddling" Arminianism???
Jude continues:
You know I disagree Whole Heartedly�and I do have a Understanding�Not an Idea of What Christians in the Past Believed�
James replies:
Well, you want to shock me? ADMIT you know that Arminianism, did not appear until James Arminius. There was NO SUCH thing as Arminianism for 1500 YEARS of church history!!
ADMIT that those five points believed by Calvinists, can be traced back ALL through church history!
If you know church history, then you already know this.
