Your posts have little to no use except to proclaim, "I'm right because I'm right becuase I'm right," and yet you would accuse me of being dull of hearing? All I can say is... LOL :ROFL:
Seriously thought, PJ, the way you discuss things wreaks of pride and dullness of hearing. You say things that make little sense as if truth were some mystical thing. You accuse Calvinism of being man's word and you have ignored everything I've said to the contrary. Listen, if I say you need to repent and believe the gospel to be saved (which is what the Bible teaches), would you then call this view of salvation Presby's word? No, because I am simply teaching what the Bible says. Likewise, if Calvinism is according to God's Word then it is not man's doctrine but God's. That's why it is most helpful to discuss biblical interpretation rather than sit here and say, "Calvinism is of the devil!" "No, Arminianism is of the Devil!" blah blah blah, back and forth.
Face it, truth is real and is obtainable only through submitting one's own reasoning to the Word of God. Let us discuss Scripture then, rather than throw useless comments back and forth, ok?
The bible does not teach Calvinism, it teaches the word of Life, and I for one Presby am persuaded by the one that lives in me and what he has said.
Phillip is not nor has not been throwing any stones, nor have I ever meet anyone that call's themselves Calvinist, that display fruit in line with scripture, that should be in a Christian's life.
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Limited or Unlimited Atonement?
Posted : 6 Feb, 2011 09:48 AM
PJ -
Your posts have little to no use except to proclaim, "I'm right because I'm right becuase I'm right," and yet you would accuse me of being dull of hearing? All I can say is... LOL
Seriously thought, PJ, the way you discuss things wreaks of pride and dullness of hearing. You say things that make little sense as if truth were some mystical thing. You accuse Calvinism of being man's word and you have ignored everything I've said to the contrary. Listen, if I say you need to repent and believe the gospel to be saved (which is what the Bible teaches), would you then call this view of salvation Presby's word? No, because I am simply teaching what the Bible says. Likewise, if Calvinism is according to God's Word then it is not man's doctrine but God's. That's why it is most helpful to discuss biblical interpretation rather than sit here and say, "Calvinism is of the devil!" "No, Arminianism is of the Devil!" blah blah blah, back and forth.
Face it, truth is real and is obtainable only through submitting one's own reasoning to the Word of God. Let us discuss Scripture then, rather than throw useless comments back and forth, ok?
You might need to go back and read all the post, the Calvinist comments do agree with anything you said in this post, I have always been in fellowship with Christians of like precious faith, and they would not agree with Calvinist opinion's because they are typically believer's
I will exhort you with these words anyone can go to the spirit of truth and find the truth, but you have to desire the truth, and be willing to walk in it. It is not God's responsibility for you to come to the truth it is your's. You do not want to leave this earth and go into the lord's presence in your present stance, of Calvinism, in lieu of the word of God.
The bible does not teach Calvinism, it teaches the word of Life, and I for one Presby am persuaded by the one that lives in me and what he has said.
Phillip is not nor has not been throwing any stones, nor have I ever meet anyone that call's themselves Calvinist, that display fruit in line with scripture, that should be in a Christian's life.
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Limited or Unlimited Atonement?
Posted : 6 Feb, 2011 09:48 AM
PJ -
Your posts have little to no use except to proclaim, "I'm right because I'm right becuase I'm right," and yet you would accuse me of being dull of hearing? All I can say is... LOL
Seriously thought, PJ, the way you discuss things wreaks of pride and dullness of hearing. You say things that make little sense as if truth were some mystical thing. You accuse Calvinism of being man's word and you have ignored everything I've said to the contrary. Listen, if I say you need to repent and believe the gospel to be saved (which is what the Bible teaches), would you then call this view of salvation Presby's word? No, because I am simply teaching what the Bible says. Likewise, if Calvinism is according to God's Word then it is not man's doctrine but God's. That's why it is most helpful to discuss biblical interpretation rather than sit here and say, "Calvinism is of the devil!" "No, Arminianism is of the Devil!" blah blah blah, back and forth.
Face it, truth is real and is obtainable only through submitting one's own reasoning to the Word of God. Let us discuss Scripture then, rather than throw useless comments back and forth, ok?
You might need to go back and read all the post, the Calvinist comments do agree with anything you said in this post, I have always been in fellowship with Christians of like precious faith, and they would not agree with Calvinist opinion's because they are typically believer's
I will exhort you with these words anyone can go to the spirit of truth and find the truth, but you have to desire the truth, and be willing to walk in it. It is not God's responsibility for you to come to the truth it is your's. You do not want to leave this earth and go into the lord's presence in your present stance, of Calvinism, in lieu of the word of God.
Clearly you have put a Calvinistiic spin on this verse and have misinterpreted what you "assume" I think this verse is saying. Instead of twisting the verse right or left, why don't you just read what it says?
"I will exhort you with these words anyone can go to the spirit of truth and find the truth, but you have to desire the truth, and be willing to walk in it. It is not God's responsibility for you to come to the truth it is your's."
Wait, do we have to desire to come to the truth first or will it first? Would you consider the will of man to be an independent, self-determining power, like a man within a man? Or does our will simply carry out our desires?
You cannot get around the fact that God created man,....but there is more....God created man in His image....but wait there is more.....God created man knowing that Adam and Eve would fall.
Do you see where I am going with this? ....Who knows what God put into the design of man ahead of time.
In addition God is Sovereign, He does not have to treat every individual the same. He can choose to raise up a man for His purposes, such as a Pharoah or a Moses. Being God, He has the ability to treat everyone as a individual. Therefore no one size fits all.
"Clearly you have put a Calvinistiic spin on this verse and have misinterpreted what you "assume" I think this verse is saying. Instead of twisting the verse right or left, why don't you just read what it says?"
It it's so clear, why don't you show me some specifics?
"You cannot get around the fact that God created man,....but there is more....God created man in His image....but wait there is more.....God created man knowing that Adam and Eve would fall.
Do you see where I am going with this? ....Who knows what God put into the design of man ahead of time.
In addition God is Sovereign, He does not have to treat every individual the same. He can choose to raise up a man for His purposes, such as a Pharoah or a Moses. Being God, He has the ability to treat everyone as a individual. Therefore no one size fits all."
Nope...I have to be honest with you, I don't see your point. I'm sorry, could you please explain a little more?
