Author	Thread: Fornication
Ferngirl View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 06:52 AM Fornication! God is love - fact! What I would like to know as a new Christian is where does a formal marriage ceremony appear in the Bible plz. Does it teach about tying together in the law of the land? Also, if two people are deeply in love and committed, is this still fornication if they are close in spirit with a joint faith? Is it wrong to live together and be in love? And, if so, where in the Bible can I learn this part? I need all the formalities straight in my mind as I have never had a Christian relationship before and only got baptised in August, so it's all new. Post Reply
View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 09:00 AM ALSO, Frengirl, I just read your last post, PLEASE keep your mind on Christ, and when a man tries to cons you into something you KNOW is not pleasing to God, and its something you have been delivered from, know that this is NOT the person God ahs intended for you. Knowing that a man or a women is the one God has placed in your life, is proven by the way that person seeks after God him/herslef. If they try to tell you something different than what God says in His word, RUN!:yay: Post Reply
Ferngirl View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 09:00 AM Thank you Ella, thankyou Father. Amen Post Reply
View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 09:31 AM Ferngirl, I rejoice, as the angels rejoice, Welcome! Luke 15:10 "In the same way, I tell you there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents." As for your question, first I would like to share what I think is most important. Although this is a great place to start, I suggest getting yourself a good "Study Bible". (If you don't have access to one, let me know and I will send you one). This kind of Bible has a 'topical 'index, it will guide you through the Bible so you can read what it says on any given topic. This way you will get the big picture and you will know that you know, instead of just relying on what you hear. Everything said in this post is great, so I am only going to add some icing to the cake: Matt 19:5 talks about the two flesh becoming one in marriage, not love. 1Cor 6:16 talks about even in fornication the two become one in prostitution, not love. If we want to talk of Love, Gods Love, then we have no choice except to talk about commitment and sacrifice. God in love has made a promise to us, He is committed to see it through even at the cost of enduring the Cross. If marriage is really about Love, then should we not be committed to see it through at any cost? Post Reply
Tulip89 View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 09:38 AM A lot of what it comes down to is are we seeking to be satisfied in Christ, or are we still trying to get our satisfaction from the world? So often it's easy to try and see how much of our satisfaction we can get from the world and our flesh without making God mad, when we should actually be seeking our satisfaction wholly in him. John Piper does a great job of explaining this in his book "Don't Waste Your Life." If you're feeling particularly ambitious, you can try reading, "Desiring God," but that's one incredibly dense book. It's amazing, but boy does it take a long time to read hahaha Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 10:04 AM I do think marriage used to be a lot simpler, and who knows what God's original plan was. All God said was that they would "leave their parents and become one flesh", so I don't think all the junk we have to go through now existed in God's original plan. I do think some kind of "formal" marriage should take place though, and we are supposed to respect the laws of the land that don't contradict with God's word...so... :peace::peace: Post Reply
Ferngirl View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 10:37 AM @Donthitthatmark, this is what I was meaning yes, exactly this! Who invented formal earthly marriage and when? and, how can two people joining in true love be wrong when God is love? Post Reply
View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 12:23 PM awww, Ferngirl, sound like you're trying ti wiggle in an excuse for two people who say they're in to have sex and live together outside of GOD JOING then together in holy matramony as ONE. Yeah, God is love, and because He is love this SHOULD be reason for two people who say they are in love to marry as ONE according to God's laws, and not their own desires. God says to marry, and HE is the one who created marriage, and gave out his laws about having SEX and LIVING TOGETHER OUSTDIES OF MARRIAGE, NAD HE IS THE ONE WHO CALLED DOING SUCH AS FORNICATION AND LIVING IN ADULTERY! tHE CUSTOM OF MARRIAGE IS not MAN'S DOING, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND A REASON FOR NOT DOING SO, it is god's LAW! YEA, God is love, but He will not put up with FOOLISHNESS, NOR will he TOLERATE SIN! WHETHER YOU ARE MARRIED OR UNMARRIED. God is not going to join you or anyone together with another person to live together without them being married, I don't care how much you say you're in LOVE. LOVE OBEYS GOD'S LAWS! And God's law says to MARRY! There is no excuse. Marriages are noted in the Bible and so are weddings, otherwise why would God say such things? Man didn;'t creat marriage or weddings, this is the doings of the Lord. Why would God make mention of a bride and the bridegroom, if there is no such things as marriage and weddings? SHACKING such does not qualify the woman to be a bride, nor does it qualify a man to be a groom... so waaasssup? Are you reading GOD'S WORD, seeking His wisdom? OR are you READING TRYING TO FIT THINGS TO THEIR OWN UNDERSTANDING AND DESIRES? to justify SHACKING AS NOT BEING A SIN?... hmmmm. Post Reply
marikashome View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 12:24 PM "Who invented formal earthly marriage and when?" Even Isaac's marriage to Rebecca in Genesis was a formal marriage. He took her into his tent, but in that time taking her into his tent publicly showed that he was going to keep a lifetime commitment to her. Her parents also knew he was going to "take her to wife" or marry her. A husband in that time had certain obligations when he took a wife. Same today. But when two people simply live together today, or when they fornicate, there is no public commitment and no binding agreement between either party. "how can two people joining in true love be wrong when God is love?" there are different kinds of love, but love between God and us and love between husbands and wives involves commitment, respect, and sacrifice. Two people in true love will be willing to wait to join until they can publicize a commitment. They will do so out of respect for each other, and even sacrificing their own desires for the other. Post Reply
Ferngirl View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 01:14 PM This is for ETcallhome. No I am not doing any of those things you suggested. What I am saying is that the way that person explained and I said yes this is what I am meaning, then as a new Chrsitian seeking answers, then that way of shacking you call it is all I have ever know in my life. i have never been a bride before. So no, Im not as how you describe it to sound like, saying I am trying to make excuses. That is the only life I have known so I am searching and looking for the answers God needs me to learn! Thankyou. Post Reply
Ferngirl View Profile History	Fornication Posted : 12 Jan, 2011 01:29 PM @ Marikashome, thankyou your answer makes sense to me! God bless! Post Reply

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