Or how God did NOT ordain the form of worship service that is commonly advanced by MANY churches today.
The root meaning of worship is found in a ship/vessel/shape expressing the worth of God in loving admiration of the greatness of His character, attributes, ability. Wherein we make ourselves in body as small as possible, so that the spirit could be lifted upward toward God. There are 15 different Hebrew and Greek words that are translated as �worship�. Which words often convey the following meanings: our bowing down, as prostrate in venerated esteem of God who is worthy of being kissed. This is all about sincere and inward communion; and not just some outward posturing.
God is Spirit, and so those that worship Him MUST worship Him in spirit and in truth (Jn 4:24). For now true worshippers SHALL worship the Father in spirit and in truth, because the Father is seeking such to worship Him (4:23); Without which you don�t know what you are worshipping (4:22); Especially IF you are �allegedly� worshipping God from some place (on earth) (4:21-20); Meaning; in a temple/church that has an altar built by men�s hands where God does NOT dwell, you are in ignorance because you are worshipping an unknown god (Acts 17:24-23,25-28). The times of your ignorance (concerning worshipping an unknown god) God has winked at, but NOW is commanding you to Repent of this ignorance! (Acts 17:30).
Now that Jesus Christ is raised up into the heavenly realm, we can be raised up with Him and seated with Him in heaven too (Eph 2:6, and Lk 12:37). Beware of being in the leavening, because of hypocrisy (Lk 12:1); Which leavening comes from the doctrines of the Pharisees (religious leaders today) (Mt 16:12); Who love salutes, the best seats, and long prayers, THESE shall receive greater condemnation (Mk 12:38-40); Because they are full of hypocrisy, because they are teaching false doctrine (Mt 16:12, Mk 12:38).
For all things have been revealed, and can now be spoken of (Lk 12:2-3). This is not about the body, which can be killed, and then put into hell! It�s all about being in the fear of God (12:4-5); Which fear gives us a hatred for doing �our own will, and way, in our own strength� (Prov 8:13-14). For we are to be numbered and NOT forgotten (Lk 12:7-6). Whosoever confesses these things in Christ before men, the Son of man shall also confess before God (12:8).
WITHOUT WHICH (YOUR CONFESSION OF ALL THESE THINGS) YOU SHALL BE DENIED BEFORE GOD (12:9). This is not about speaking against the Son of man, which can be forgiven; it is about blaspheming against the Holy Spirit, (being under false doctrine which causes hypocrisy)which shall NOT be forgiven (12:10). For only through the Holy Spirit can we have the following answer (12:12-11): Don�t interrupt this testimony through covetousness, which is into possessing (12:13-15); Wherein it is all about what is YOURS, or what YOU can do (12:16-18); OR you shall end up speaking about �your own soul� in retirement, saying that it was all about having fun! (12:19).
THIS is for those who are fools, who are going to lose their soul, because they are �living for themselves�, and are NOT living for God (Lk 12 20:-21). Life is NOT to be all about providing for the body (12:22-23); Rather we should consider how God takes care of body and soul (in spirit), if we have faith (12:24-28). Why seek as those of the world, when the Father knows what you need; and can add all things to you? (12:29-31).
We are talking about the kingdom provision unto the soul/heart/in spirit (12:32-34); Wherein we are openly waiting upon the Lord to come upon us and cover us with the light (12:35-36). IF you are watching/waiting for the Lord to come and {serve} �provide for� you, YOU are blessed; and you shall sit with Him (12:37). Therefore we need to be �made ready� for the Lord (Lk 12:40). FOR THIS KINGDOM PORTION IS ONLY GIVEN TO THOSE WHO WERE MADE WISE UNTO BEING FAITHFUL (WORSHIP) SERVANTS (12:41-43).
Without His coming upon us, (to work these things in us, and out of us) we are into playing (12:45). IF Jesus comes looking for YOU, and YOU are unaware of this, because you do NOT know the Lord�s will, YOU will be ill prepared, and as such your portion is the same as that which unbelievers get! (12:46-47).
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This is like following a celtic knot. And you posted your web sites???? Seriously, sister, I question your motives for posting.
Suggestion: Take what you said and pretend you are going to say it to a 4th grader who asked how they can worship God. One paragraph - no more than 10 sentences. I'd like to read that.
Seriously, these are the Scriptures which I am presenting that seems to be very offensive to some of you. If I were you, I would be pleading with God right now asking Him to give you a love for His words of truth, and understanding because without which all you have is pleasure in unrighteousness without salvation (2Thess 2:10-12).
The Bible also says that believers like some of you are "beasts" because you are speaking evil of the things that you don't understand in the word of God, and speaking evil against one of God's dignities within a presumptuous attitude which is why your reward for this behavior is self-deception as you sport with a sister in Christ (2Pet 2:10, 12-15).
Lastly, God calls me to Avoid foolish and "unlearned" questions and that is exactly what I'm doing (2Tim 2:23).
Sister in the Lord -- you did not answer my suggestion. You merely labeled me foolish and unlearned.
Let me make it a bit more clear. By your long, involved, original post -- I don't know what you are saying. I am confused. You string scripture together in a way that, to me, does not make sense and does in fact seem unconnected. I am asking for clarification, for you to explain it in a simpler manner. As if you were explaining it to a 4th grader. Just one paragraph is all I'm asking. I would like to understand better how you match all these sciptures to your topic - worshipping God.
Is that foolish? I don't think so, but that is my opinion. Is it unlearned? Ah -- now -- you don't know my background or education, so to label it so (if indeed you do) would that not make YOU a "beast" (2 Peter 2:10, 12-15 --- your scripture reference)??
It is because I have a fair understanding of scripture I ask you to clarify what it is you are saying and point out what you seem to be saying is in direct opposition to scripture. I is because I have a love of scripture that I rejoice to see it rightly divided and can not remain silent when I see it twisted into subtle traps to snare Christians into condemnation not well grounded in the Word.
I have asked politely, instead of any answer,...You say you are to holy, and I to carnal, to give me a answer!
Therefore I will ask again politely to back up this error you post on a Christian site:
ie : You say Christians who have sat under false doctrine have committed the unpardonable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and therefore cannot be forgiven and are condemned!
Please show me where this is found in scripture?
I have a scripture for you: Matthew 12:36-37 " But I tell you that men will have to give account On the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted and by your words you will be condemned."
I was not going to get into any of this while fasting, but I cannot sit by while fellow believers are belittled in the name of authority from God.
and speaking evil against one of God's dignities within a presumptuous attitude which is why your reward for this behavior is self-deception as you sport with a sister in Christ (2Pet 2:10, 12-15).
Dignitary
DIGNITARY, n. An ecclesiastic who holds a dignity, or a benefice which gives him some pre-eminence over mere priests and canons, as a bishop, dean, archdeacon, prebendary, &c.
1Ti 2:12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.
A real teacher, (One called by God to this appointment) man or woman, would have answered the questions so that others might learn. Not in anger or in accusatory tones, which neither teach nor encourage. Let all be done in love and gentleness, with all humility, not thinking more highly of ourselves than we ought.
You may call me rude, but I am not without knowledge (2Cor 11:6). These posts are for not all, So I will answer those I am led to as the Spirit leads. And, you may continue to rail against me all you wish; however I will not answer all responses...I highly suggest those of you to move along who are not interested in responding positively, because I will not answer any negative responses.. :glow:
So, are you claiming Apostleship? That is the context of the scripture you quoted. Are you aware that there can only be twelve Apostles of Jesus Christ? And anyone claiming that today is a liar?
Rev 21:14 Now the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
Act 1:18 (Now this man purchased a field with the wages of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out.
Act 1:19 And it became known to all those dwelling in Jerusalem; so that field is called in their own language, Akel Dama, that is, Field of Blood.)
Act 1:20 "For it is written in the Book of Psalms: 'LET HIS DWELLING PLACE BE DESOLATE, AND LET NO ONE LIVE IN IT'; and, 'LET ANOTHER TAKE HIS OFFICE.'
I am not calling you rude, you say you are not without knowledge, so why don't you use your knowledge to answer the simple question I have posted twice?
No one knows who you really are, you could be so Holy that you glow, or a member of a cult. How are we to know? We can only judge your posts (not you) by scripture. I don't think you would automatically accept every thing posted on here, so why would you expect anyone else to? Quite simply sister, when it comes to the kind of post you write; if you can't back up what you write you shouldn't post it. Wouldn't you expect the same from others?
@Two....I back up what I say in the posts because I am giving the Scriptural references. I don't care what people think of me or my posts. I do think that people shouldn't read my posts if they don't like them, rather than rail against them, because they are Not my opinions, they are the Scriptures.
I deal with alot of Pastors and the like, so my time is limited, as I said before I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to post doctrinal dissertations to those God is calling to receive.Anyone who really wants to know more about my doctrinal teaching which is from my minister who teaches Pastors, can look at my two ministry pages. There are plenty of doctrinal studies to go through rather than nit pick something in a post because of offence.
And to the socalled man of faith with all his titles..Women are not to speak/teach in the church is totally ridiculous because this IS the internet...LOL....then you people wonder why I don't answer such foolishness, and railings...
