The righteousness of God is revealed through (the process of our) faith to (the) faith (of Christ), so that we can live just by His faith (Rom 1:17). This revealing process is sent unto us through the spiritual gifting of (grace in all of its teaching) from a minister, by the will of God, so that we can be established (Rom 1:11-10) in �the mutual faith� without being in ignorance to the fact that THIS (the mutual faith) (1:12-13) is the ONE faith that we are called to walk worthy of so that we may experience the unity of the Spirit, because we have bonded in peace within humility, and a forbearing attitude (Eph 4:4, 1,3, and 2).
Those who have obtained THIS precious faith have the knowledge of God�s divine power that gives us all the things we need so that we might partake of the divine nature AFTER escaping the corruption that is in the world through lusts (2Pet 1:1, 3-4).
AND BESIDES THIS, WE ARE TO BE DILIGENT IN ADDING TO �OUR� FAITH:
a) The knowledge (of the grace of God that works) to show us how we can become b) Temperate (to live a moderated lifestyle) and be given c) Patience (so that we could have) d) Godliness (which is the right attitude towards God) so that we can have e) Sincere love towards the brethren (that shows the actions of love within affection, and the truth) (2Pet 1:5-7) because we are called to love in the deeds (of showing sincere care) which is in the truth (1Jn 3:18). Therefore, (the adding of all these things, is so that we would have the mutual faith, herein called Christ�s faith (Rom 1:11, Gal 2:20).
How do you KNOW if you have been called and elected by God?? Answer- You are DOING these things, and you shall NEVER fall (from grace) (2Pet 1:10). ALL who lack these things are blind, (unrepentant) and cannot see (to understand these things) because they have NOT been purged from their old sins (2Pet 1:9) (and crucified with Christ see Gal 2:20). Those who have had their hearts purified/purged/crucified through the Spirit, CAN sincerely love the brethren intensely, because they were obedient to this truth (1Pet 1:22, 2Pet 1:9, Gal 2:20).
ARE YOU BEING HINDERED FROM OBEYING THIS TRUTH??
(Gal 5:7)
If so, then you are �self-justified� by the law (of men) and fallen from GRACE because you don�t have the effect of God (working these things into you) (5:4) AND therefore you DON�T have the FAITH that is waiting through the Spirit, for the righteousness by faith TO LOVE (Gal 5:5-6).
ALL those who DON�T have the ability/liberty to serve in THIS LOVING CAPACITY, are only serving �their own� FLESH, and all of this is because �THEY WON�T CUT THEMSELVES OFF� from those who are not teaching/affirming these things (Gal 5:13-12).
ARE YOU BEING COMFORTED IN THE �MUTUAL FAITH�? If so, then you are not ignorant of all these things. (Rom 1:12-13).
2sparrow, you ask how is it that MUTUAL faith in Christ. We ALL should have the same belief and faith (MUTUAL FAITH) to know that no one can be saved or delivered from their sins without the grace that God showed to us when we were still sinners, and that ONLY through Jesus Christ by FAITH, and repents of our sins ARE WE SAVED BY GOD'S GRACE.
If you agree with this, then we have MUTUAL FAITH in our beliefs and knowing that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world by faith and grace in His works on the cross.
Dennis, you are right on! We come into agrrement and have the same faith beleifs that we are saved by the fisnished works of Jesus Crist. We have MUTUAL FAITH in this belief, our fiath is in one accord.
2sparrow, your answer to definition of MUTUAL FAITH is on page 1... as it pertains to the context inwhich Paul is speaking and as Sic has quoted from Romans chapter 1.
I am afraid you misunderstand. The Bible, ie : Romans 1:1:17 teaches there is ONE FAITH that is mutual faith, not 2 Faiths It is only mutual in the sense we all share the SAME FAITH. The original post clearly differentiates our Faith from the Faith of Jesus in the first couple sentences (two faiths added to each other) Although in some sense that may be brought into agreement with the truth. However after asking for clarification I received no answer from the poster. You answer was : I was not 'spiritual enough' to understand then went on to explain what I already know the scripture teaches. I have been polite and respectful ET, but I don't think you understand what has actually been posted can be interpreted in a couple of ways, and the clarification needs to come from the author. Thank you for your efforts.
I undestand what Paul is speaking about very clearly in Romans 1:12, and I don;'t see anywgere in this post where two different kids of faith is being spoken about.
I've read what you have written and what everyone on this thread have written, and I know what Sic is speaking about the power of the working of faith when there is agreement and when we all have things in comman to do what it is we do for the Lord in one accord, as it pretains salvation, or whatever.
Heeeeey, hold your horses... Now do you go gettin all huffty just because she doesn't respond to your question, OR because I made a comment about being spiritual minded in understanding what she is trying to say, I think your comments speak for themselves. Yu would understand and know what is being spoken about here , even if she has not broken it all down, and has done her best to explain her understanding of these passages.
And yes, there isn't but one faith, and this is the one faith she is speaking about... maybe you're reading too much into what she has posted.
I still can't see what it is you're seeking in an answer from her with your question. Re-read your question for yourself and maybe you will understand that it might deserve an answer, or she aynot know the answer toy our question
DEFINITITON: MUTAUL to change, or to exchange, by each of two or more for or toward the other or others, having the smae in relationsip toward each other, to interchange feelings between one or more persons having things in common, sharing, agreement...
I see can't nothing wrong with how she has used this phrase, but then that's me, so if you find something wrong then you should ask question, and if she knows the answers, she should answer.
Much to do about nothing I would have to say... ...:yay:
PJ, I don't understand your comment... "No one OBTAINS faith?"... therefore, if a person does not OBTAIN faith, how does a person get or receive faith?
Definition: OBTAIN: To get possession of, or to acquire, or to get hold of, or to arrive at, or be established in or with, or procure, or reach, or succeed in, or to arrive at, or to achive.
So now that you have the definition of the meaning of OBTAIN, please explain what you mean by your comment... "no one OBTAINS FAITH..."
PJ, Jesus said everybody has a measure of faith. Like that of a musterd seed. That is in the gospels several times. We all have it given to us, so we have it already. Any additional faith we receive as we grow in Christ jesus.
