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Are YOU AFRAID to DISAGREE with SCRIPTURE?
Posted : 23 Oct, 2010 11:53 AM

I feel if a person is afraid to disagree with scripture they do themselves a grave disservice. Often times what we are actually disagreeing with is OUR INTERPRETATION of the scripture. If we are afraid to disagree, it puts us in danger of believing something the scripture does not say. This is the offramp that leads to the highway of heresy.



Do any here agree?

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Posted : 23 Oct, 2010 11:57 PM

All that I was pointing out here, was the fact that there are so many different religions, different denominations, and of how Peter warned that there would be "false" words spoken, deemed as "scriptures"; and from that people are made "merchandise" of that. Does man push products in the name of Jesus? Stating that it is scriptual? Seen the "Holy Water" info-mercial lately? Nothing was said about CD's and music. So a person can disagree with "scripture" based on how that "scripture" is being interpreted. Would that be fair to say? Is it the "scripture" that one disagrees with, or the person's interpretation of that "scripture"? Just food for thought that's all. Have a blessed day.

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Posted : 24 Oct, 2010 09:19 AM

@SimpleSimon

Many times people will be told that a particular scripture means such and such. Since they believe the scripture is never wrong they are afraid to disagree with the doctrine that is taught to them. Such are catholics, JWs, mormoms etc. . . There is another group of people (those who are usually doing the telling) that twist scripture to fit their own beliefs; these people are not afraid to disagree with scripture and they do so to their own destruction. Then there is another group ( hopefully us) who being lead by the Spirit study the scriptures diligently who are not afraid to disagree with what they had always thought or been taught a particular scripture means. I guess what my original post is about are those who believe their doctrine is firmly based on scripture when it is not and refuse to accept any thing else because they believe scripture to be true. It never seems to occur to them their interpretation may be incorrect. It FEAR for many that keeps them bound because they see scriptures and their doctrine as one in the same. To lose their doctrine is to lose their faith in the scriptures which would mean losing their God.

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Posted : 24 Oct, 2010 09:40 AM

"And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of."



So very true. It sure gives "we hate God" people a lot of ammo.



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Posted : 24 Oct, 2010 10:25 AM

The "private interpretation" quote is often -- though of course not always -- used to bash Protestants. I get a little keyboard-happy when I see that quote because it usually goes that direction. I acted in error. SimpleSimon, please accept my apologies.



About the religious merchandise, I'm not going to say that everything that gets sold as Christian truly is; I was only getting at that that term "merchandise" is a bit overbroad. Do some fleece the flock by selling them trinkets? Yes. However, not everything that Christians manufacture and sell is worthless.

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Posted : 24 Oct, 2010 11:31 AM

I think that merchandise thing is referring to the fact that some people/pastors/churches have a "numbers" game going on. They don't care how converted people are, they just want as many people as possible in their church. So then it turns into a "I have more people than you, I must be speaking the truth" kind of deal, when in reality...the more you have, the more likely you are to be following error and tickling ears. In my opinion, the fewer people you have...it's more likely you're actually following the straight and narrow. That's not always the case, but I doubt that these huge corporate mega churches are telling people what they need to hear vs. what they want to hear.



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Posted : 24 Oct, 2010 02:36 PM

SilverFire, apology accepted, and I apologize as well. I truly believe in my heart, as I pray while responding to anything that it is done in the love of Christ, and at times it is so easy to even mis-interpret what is being said, or written. I realize that I must be so careful to clarify what it is that is upon my heart, in trying tofind the proper words, and have thos who read these words "see" that in no way is my heart judging them. And with all of that said, I completly agree with you. There are so many things which are beneficial which are sold. And TwoSparrows, I believe that you said the KEY word here....to STUDY His Word. Paul gave instruction to Timothy saying; "Study to show THYSELF approved unto God, a workman that needeth not be ashamed, RIGHTLY dividing the Word of Truth." ll Timothy2:15. And each person has to make that personal for themselves.Period! Billy Grahm Crusade, a few years back, tried their best to do a survey which showed roughly that 62% of christians did not read their Bible more than once a week. And I only include this because I feel that it is so very important that Christians encourage other brothers&sisters in Christ, to diligently study this Holy Book of Truth, which is our weapon in this daily spiritual warfare. I pray that we here may all grow closer in His love as we share, communicate, and learn, all done in love.Amen! And I am the first to say....wow,I have so much to learn. God bless you all.

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Posted : 26 Oct, 2010 06:11 PM

@ sparrow, I will have to disagree with you. I am always wrong the word of God is always right.

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Posted : 27 Oct, 2010 05:51 AM

Yes I agree: the word of God as written in the bible is ALWAYS right.



As a christian I have to find the truth in it. This is not by merely reading it. I have to make it part of me. In my brains, in my thinking, in my attitude and in my acting.



Most of the times I need to drastically change my thinking and attitude in order for it to be able to fit in! This is the most painful and difficult part. Because my ego tells me that I am a fairly good person and therefore can fairly well discern good from evil. I do not need all the bible words, the mainstream is enough. And the words that I do not grasp or find too difficult to stomach or deal with, I can simply leave out.



But everytime I go deeper in the words, I find how limited my views are and how much they have been corrupted for my own convenience.



Disagreeing with scripture is one way (if not the only way) to find out how wrong you are. The battle, struggle and fencing between what one would love to understand and what it actually means is in my opinion the finest way to discover the true meaning of God�s words.



Reverends, ministers, scholars and fellow christians are of good assistance yet the final word is with God. I believe that through prayer, the Holy Spirit does guide. Yet I have not the Holy Ghost dwelling in me like many other christians so easily claim, I must willingly call Him out and willingly submit myself to Its voice.



Reading the bible for me is thus not confirming what I believe already but reading what I do not want to believe or submit to.

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Posted : 27 Oct, 2010 09:46 AM

@EmailFriend

I think you actually got what I was saying as some others did. For those who didn't let me state clearly ; scripture is always right but our interpretation should always be open to change as scripture and the Holy Spirit would demand a change.

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Posted : 27 Oct, 2010 12:28 PM

That LAST STATEMENT IS VERY WELL SAID TWO SPARROWS

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