Thread: Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
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Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 03:42 AM
Hello everyone: I have seen some people using this term 'Slain the Spirit' as though this is a doctrine that is to be taught as though it is Biblical truth...
I have included the Scriptures which these and others believe this is from,
Yet I cannot even begin to glean anything concerning Spiritual slaying in the Spirit.
Act 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
Act 9:2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
Act 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the goads.
Act 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
Act 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
Act 9:8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.
Act 9:9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.
Since Yeshua/Jesus,Paul nor any Biblical writers had even hinted to this;
Is it Possible that those teaching this ,that they are false teachers and false prophets?
Since we are to be Bereans and students of the Word,What is this Scripture really about..
Shalom and Chesed:
St.George
ps:I am amazed that we have the Word and a host of other things to help us to study the Word for ourselves and yet people still listen to those teaching such dribble.
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 01:21 PM
@ twosparrows:
Annania and Saphira were slain physically,not in the spirit..
I do not find this thing 'Slain in the Spirit" anywhere in Scripture.
What I do find is,man is dead spiritually until the Holy Spirit gives man the life of GOD.
John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
I would rather live by faith,believing Yeshua,then to be living by feelings,
For there have been some times where I wanted to scream at person into their face,and slam them into a wall..
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 01:50 PM
If I may , make these few points to you Turcker, to know that man has coined many words that don't line up with the word of God, and there are some that do. But my ppoint is that if you are going to condemn certains words, condemn them all that are in order with God's word and have different meanings than what God has to say.
Fto Trucker, you're correct, these phrases ARE NOT UIN THE BIBLE NOR ARE THEY BIBLICAL...and there are mant others but I will bring forth a couple I have seen on this site.
(1) slain in the spirit IS NOT IN THE BIBLE!
(2) A Jezebell spirit ITS NOT IN THE BIBLE!
(3 )Neither is Interpreting scriptures, ITS NOT IN THE BIBLE, we are told that God will REVEAL TO US, GOD WILL OPEN OUR UNDERSTANDING, GOD WILL OPEN OUR EYES, GOD WILL OPEN OUR HEARTS, GOD WILL OPEN OUR MINDS, GOD WILL OPEN OUR SPIRITS , GOD WILL GUIDE US INTO ALL UNDERSTANDING AND WISDOM, AND KNOWLEDGE, GOD WILL LEAD US INTO ALL THINGS OF GOD to receive, and understand what thus says the Lord ,through the POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, NOT THORUGH INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURE. gOD reveals TO US, So that we may be empowered with HIS WISDOM, HIS KNOWLEDGE, AND HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT ONLY COMES FROM GOD, and not ourINTERPRETING SCRIPTURE FOUR ownselves.
Our thoughts are NOT His thoughts, nor or our ways God's ways, and everything about God is SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND LINES UP WITH THE WORD. nOT THROUGH OUR INTERPRETATIONS OF SCRIPTURE.
We are also taught, that there is NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN, that would go to mean that every word that has been spoken was spoken, every thought we have, has aeady been had, evey dream we have has already been, every vsiion has already been seen. Nothing new under the sun on this earth is new... WE ARE NOT COMING UP WITH NOT ONE THING SPIRITUALLY THAT HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN DONE OR SAID.
Man coins thier own phrases and terms to fit into God's word, and in many cases this changes the word of God to go along with what MEN haS to say in their guessing about God and His word.
I say agAin, IF IT DIESN'T LINE UP WITH THE WORD OF GOD. IF YOU CAN'T CONNECT THE DOT(meaning to find it in scritpure so that you will know its of God doing) AND IF THERE IS NOT PURPOSE AND SPIRITUAL MEANING TO EDIFY THE BDY OF CHRIST, etc... IT AIN'T OF GOD!
i AGREE, to be slain in the spirit, really means to DIE TO SELF in the Spirit of the Lord. The only problem with this concept is that those who do fall out, always come back up with the same negative attitudes, they still continue to live in their sins of adultery, fornication, stealing, lying, etc. They still contiune not do serve God with a prue and faithful heart or conviction. WITH NO NEW WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, OR UNDERSTANDING OF gOD OR hIS WORD... FOR PERSONAL CHANGE.
Bieng slain in the Spirt is a beautiful concept, but it is NOT SCRIPTURAL. And although Trucker you quoted from the book of Acts, and there maybe some believers who have used these passage to affrim being slain in the Sprit.
Others have also used this from John chapter 18: Therefore Jesus knowing all things that would come upon Him went forward and said to them, Whom are you seeking? They answered Him saying, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus said to them, I AM HE. And Judas who betrayed Him also stood with them. Then... said I AM HE... the drew back and fell to the gound. ( the soliders eye were open to know that this was Jesus the Christ, if you continue reading and the other gospels, and they had a CHANGED heart.
In this passage we find the soldiers unable to stand under the powerful voice of God Himself speaking... God speaks of Himself as the I AM, therefore when Jesus spoke these words it was the voice of GOD speaking to the soldiers.
Many use this falling to the ground when God spoke, as being slain in the spirit. Becasue it was the powerrful voice of God speaking to them.
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 01:55 PM
Sorry, Dennis, you're in error. John the Revelator was not slain in the spirit or SPIRIT... Johnwas CAUGHT UP, just as Paul desicibes in 2 Corinthians chaper 12, in a trance a vision in orderto receive the message God had for him. John is describing what God SHOWED him...
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 02:14 PM
@ ET:
Bieng slain in the Spirt is a beautiful concept, but it is NOT SCRIPTURAL. And although Trucker you quoted from the book of Acts, and there maybe some believers who have used these passage to affrim being slain in the Sprit.
Others have also used this from John chapter 18: Therefore Jesus knowing all things that would come upon Him went forward and said to them, Whom are you seeking? They answered Him saying, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus said to them, I AM HE. And Judas who betrayed Him also stood with them. Then... said I AM HE... the drew back and fell to the gound. ( the soliders eye were open to know that this was Jesus the Christ, if you continue reading and the other gospels, and they had a CHANGED heart.
In this passage we find the soldiers unable to stand under the powerful voice of God Himself speaking... God speaks of Himself as the I AM, therefore when Jesus spoke these words it was the voice of GOD speaking to the soldiers.
Many use this falling to the ground when God spoke, as being slain in the spirit. Becasue it was the powerrful voice of God speaking to them.
John 18:5 They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.
According to your writing,you say these soldiers had their eyes opened,and were slain in the spirit.
According to Pentecostal and Charismatic teaching,is this not what a person experiences when they have been saved,or filled with the Holy Spirit.......
If so, then when was Judas who was standing with these men,when was he slain in the spirit,had his eyes opened and had been saved...
Judas is called the son of perdition,does not sound like one whoes eyes and understanding of Yeshua were opened.
Nor was he filled with the Holy Spirit...
Mat 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
This does not mean they were saved,or trusting Yeshua.
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 02:34 PM
I know Dennis, you're ok...:hearts:
Trucker, you to understand your own topics, and the purpose for which you post your topics, and the answers you expect from those who respond your posted topics.
this is the point they were not born again and had come to get Jesus to curcifiy Him, and were unable to stand under the pwoerful voice of hearing the voice of God.
you ask if being slain in the spirit was of Biblical teachings. I have pointed out to you what is recorded in the gospels.:zzzz:
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 03:06 PM
@trucker
Although my answer was a muse, perhaps you should reread acts 5. They lied not to men but to the Holy Spirit.
Many people in the bible have been overcome by the prescence of God. For those who are only seeking experiences and not God himself, there is a counterfeit supplied by the enemy of their souls. Since not everyone can distinguish between the two and assume there to be only one experience; many different opinions arise if it be biblical or not.
Slain in the Spirit:Is there any Biblical truth to this teaching
Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 04:02 PM
According to your writing,you say these soldiers had their eyes opened,and were slain in the spirit.
According to Pentecostal and Charismatic teaching,is this not what a person experiences when they have been saved,or filled with the Holy Spirit.......
trucker: no, that's not true...coming from a charismatic
be careful what you read, it's not always correct.
