Author	Thread: False teachers
shepherdingking View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 14 Oct, 2010 04:54 PM "sheperdingking you are a servant of the devil. There is a heavy price to pay for deceiving the young and I assure you that unless you repent you shall surely pay it." Itasca: I moved your comment to biblical discussion and need to know what you call a false teacher? Is this in response to my quote of 1 Tim 4 that false teachers say divorced people should not be allowed to remarry. I do not label false teachers or a " servant of the devil" if they merely disagree with my views. Post Reply
View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 15 Oct, 2010 12:33 PM Dietary laws; " What soever is sold in the shambles [market place], that eat, asking for conscience sake:'For the earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof; If any of them that believe not [non-Christians] bid you to feast , and you be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no questions for conscience sake. But, if any man say unto you , 'This is offered in sacrifice unto idols,' eat not for his sake that showed it, and for conscience sake. 'For the earth is the Lords, and the fullness thereof' " 1 Corinthians chapter 10 verse 25-28 Slain in the spirit: You are not spiritually minded therefore I can not speak to you about things of the spirit. As to the False teacher: I see that you have received your spiritual hair cut. Post Reply
View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 15 Oct, 2010 01:17 PM Itasca do you believe you are above the rules of the forum? Post Reply
shepherdingking View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 15 Oct, 2010 04:47 PM Itasca: Are you saying i should get slain in the spirit? I did not see that post where you said the Lord told you to tell me I am a heritic. I will check up on that. ... in the meantime if you like, you can take up the sword of the Spirit and rip me to shreads. But keep in mind I use the same sword and love to share skills. And our weapons are not carnal. This IS a good verse on meat but there is likely more to it. Put in context, " "All things are lawful," but not all things are helpful. "All things are lawful," but not all things build up. 24 Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor. 25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience." It also says you can drink any deadly thing or take up snakes. But I'm not quite sure I'd have the faith for it. And whatever is not of faith is sin. Post Reply
cowgirl1984 View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 15 Oct, 2010 06:20 PM While I do think shepherdking has a very funny way of twisting scriptures and should not be listened to (even satan quoted scripture to sound like truth, but he twisted it--specifically when he was tempting Jesus after Jesus had fasted), Itasca, I'm sure you don't care really what I think but I am losing respect for your views as well... I agree with dgrimater about praying for shepherdking and adhering to the standards. Did I say some extremely harsh things in another thread regarding shepherdking? Yes. In fact, I said "Everyone, PLEASE pay attention to this. If you haven't already seen that shepherd is a liar/deceiver and/or greatly deceived by satan and spouting off falsehoods..." which is extremely harsh. It was a heated forum. I can't decide whether I was "too harsh" or not, because it is not an untrue statement, but I cannot judge his soul. Which is why I put the possibility that he is himself deceived by satan. But if you read my post there, you will see why I said it. He says Jesus does not condemn (nor affirm) divorce and used the reference of when Jesus was asked about divorce as support for his view. Jesus most definitely condemns divorce, and the very passage shepherdking was referring to is what refutes what he said. Anyway, my intention is not to defend myself or to go off topic, but my point is, shepherdking has some twisted views. Even the biggest lie has a small grain of truth in it. So maybe we should all turn the burners down a bit. But anyone who twists scripture to justify sex outside of marriage and divorce and whatever else they twist scripture to justify is a dangerous person. It is unfortunately common. Thank you dgrimater for pointing out the need to pray for people rather than spout off angry or hateful things. While I still hope that shepherdking's twisted views do not corrupt anyone's minds, and while the Bible does command us to cast these people from our midst and therefore I'm not sure how harsh really is "too harsh" in this case, it is important to pray and to be good examples ourselves. And Itasca's blatant lack of respect toward multiple people in this thread is the opposite of a good example. And since you call everyone else out, I, like some others here, am calling YOU out Itasca. You are sounding hateful now, and I do not believe people should jump on your bandwagon any more than they should jump on shepherdking's... Post Reply
cowgirl1984 View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 15 Oct, 2010 06:23 PM Upon rereading my post, I found a couple things that confused me, and I'm the one who wrote it. I meant "adhere to the standards" of the chat forums. And when I said, "Even the biggest lie has a small grain of truth in it," it sounded like I was saying look for the truth in the lies. What I MEANT was, you can make a lie sound like truth because every lie has a bit of truth in it, which is what makes it so easy to deceive people sometimes. Just because something sounds like it "might have truth to it" does not make it truth. Post Reply
View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 15 Oct, 2010 07:18 PM @ Itasca: False teachers/prophets: Mat 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Mat 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Mat 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. I would like to know by which standard are you judging a person to being a false prophet/teacher. Are you using the Word of YHWH; If so could i then use the word to correct some of your erroroneous ways. The Lord has a complaint against you Sheperdingking. Consequently, I have been instructed to call you a heretic. And a heretic is one who has fallen under the power of the evil one. Pride goes before detruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. Could you please give me the Scripture concerning this Word. Sheperdingking is going to be slain in the spirit. Since there is not one verse of Scripture to support this thing you say is from Yeshua,could we then label you and those teaching this dribble,False Teachers..False-False Prophets.. Itasca,I do hope that you will trust sherdingking to Yeshua.. I hope that you will be having a Blessed week. Shalom and Chesed: St.George Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 15 Oct, 2010 10:12 PM I think shepardking should put his view back here about whatever this is about. I read a post about marriage, and I thought he was saying that society has plastered marriage with all kinds of traditional/minutia that wasn't required in biblical times, and I agree with him. I didn't see him say anywhere that it's ok to have sex before marriage or anything like that. What I heard was that because of all the requirements and stuff, we might actually be causing people to stumble and sin, where in bible times they would have been allowed to marry and avoid sin. I don't know if that was what this was about, and I don't know if I heard him right...but that's what I got out of it, and like I said...I agree...and I think itasca needs a lease before he starts burning people at a spiritual stake. Where's the christian love for another christian? We can reprove someone without trying to cut their heads off with imaginary spiritual weapons, can't we? :peace::peace: Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 15 Oct, 2010 10:21 PM **leash:winksmile: :peace::peace: Post Reply
cowgirl1984 View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 15 Oct, 2010 11:41 PM @Mark. I was very confused as well by a lot of what shepherd was saying regarding sex before marriage, but every time he was asked to clarify, it was like he was dodging the question and that bothered me. What got me to where I do not buy into what he has to say was what he said about divorce. I'm not always entirely eloquent myself. @shepherd. If Mark is right regarding what you were saying about sex outside of marriage, and if I was wrong about what you were saying Jesus said about divorce, please clarify. Make it super simple, and be careful how you use scripture. I would really like to know if we have gravely misunderstood you. You started this thread I assume to try and clear your name? Even if that was not your purpose I WOULD like to know. It's only right that we would hear what you have to say. I'm not quite sure what you can say about your post regarding divorce though that would convince me you weren't twisting scripture... But I'm hoping I simply misunderstood. Post Reply
View Profile History	False teachers Posted : 16 Oct, 2010 03:17 AM heeeey, what's goin on up in herrrr? Shepherd, why come y'all bring your fight here, y'all know we just got our house settled down, and now here y'all come with he said, I heard, I thought stuff...:ROFL: shhhhhh, before you wake certian people up... .sssshhhhhh!:excited: Shepherd is a NOT a FALSE TEACHER. Shepherd is NOT A TEAHCER PERIOD! We have already gone through this with Shep before, and he is trying to make somebody receive his twisted message about what Jesus is saying thorugh scripture about certain subjects, especially on women, and marriage and sex outside of marriage....and Shep you know I'm right.... so don't go there with me:zzzz: Shep has need to be born agin in the Holy Spirit, because he is after pleasing himself and he twists scriptures to try to fit a topic into his own thinking pattern. He thinks if a man and a woman are together and dating, man is suppose to have his needs fulfilled and dating should justifiy a man and a women having sex outside of marriage. Now that's what he came here with some months ago, and a few of us ran him down the street with this lie to you guys:boxing: We've discussed this with Shep, and it didn't fly, so he went to visit you young people with his twisted message Itasca is right!... Shep quotes many scripture, but can't explain not one, including the meaning of Jesus wept.. We love Shep, but his message is twisted. Love Itasca, and what he said makes sense when you know the scripture and don't have to wonder about if the scriptures is true or what Shep said means the same as the scripture. And I see not one thing wrong with telling Shep or anyone else when their message ain't about the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ. If she/he is a false teacher, thats what they are... no sugar coating. So ya'lll hush, shhhhh, we are in a peace mode up here. Y'all making noise!:zzzz:LOL And BTW, just where does it say in the Bible Itazca can't express himself the way he see fit when he find someone distortng God's word? And where does it say on this site he can't either? Know the difference between being a childish immature Christian and a mature grown up Christian. Even Jesus got angry and told the disciples off, and so did Paul put Peter and Barnabas and other in place in a heated arguement, and with no certain word. Doesn't make you saved or unsaved to epress yourself with anger and displeaures... get angry but do not sin... All of you have expressed your anger and displease toward another person and what they have said, so why so sanctified and holy in this matter?... what your point? get on with enjoying yourself posting and having fun discussing and engaging in conversations that matter with each other... now somebody go ahead and make my day....:peace: Post Reply

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