Author	Thread: Why? (A Bible Study)
klmartin62 View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 5 Jul, 2010 05:49 AM If everyone is saved in exactly the same way, why do salvation experiences vary so greatly? There are scriptures that explain this. Hint: NT Love and grace, Leon Post Reply
gracegrace View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 5 Jul, 2010 09:47 PM Leon, Thanks for bringing that out. I guess I have not "seen" that verse before that said "The blind and the lame will not get into the palace." Very interesting. After hearing your take on it, it really makes me think...the saying was that they will not get in, but then the King sends for him, invites him and even compels him to come in. (he fetched him) :laugh: 2Sa 9:5 Then king David sent, and fetched him out of the house of Machir, the son of Ammiel, from Lodebar. That now causes me to love the story even more. :applause: Thanks again for bringing that out. I was blessed by it. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 5 Jul, 2010 09:58 PM You can find salvation stories from Genesis to Revelation. The stories are all different on how God chose to bring people to Himself. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 6 Jul, 2010 06:23 AM Food for thought, if the lord forced anyone to choose him he would have by his own deeds declared himself unjust, by forcing anyone to be a part of him goes against everything one sees in the word of God, concerning the God of The bible. Love never Demands!! Post Reply
View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 6 Jul, 2010 09:16 AM When I start a horse I change my program to fit the particular horse. I have different programs for different horses depending on the individual horse and what I have planned for it. Some horses are frightened, some arrogant, some abused, some hard and unwilling, some soft and supple. All the programs have common threads but are each tailor made in the best interest of success with the horse. There is a hugh lesson in this post topic: There is a trap we fall into; thinking God handles things the same way all the time. So if we see God doing something different than what we are used to; we declare it can not be God....Hahaha, what do we know! Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 6 Jul, 2010 09:41 AM Two sparrows, you are exactly right. Great post. PJ, in your post you just called Jesus a liar. He is the one that told that story, I just printed it here. It is so clear, there can be no misunderstanding it. Blessings, Leon Post Reply
View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 6 Jul, 2010 09:41 AM Those that are born again are expected to know our father, it is not hard just get in his word, he has revealed himself to all who care to know him. Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 6 Jul, 2010 09:53 AM PJ:Food for thought, if the lord forced anyone to choose him he would have by his own deeds declared himself unjust, by forcing anyone to be a part of him goes against everything one sees in the word of God, concerning the God of The bible Me: PJ, are you saying that you are qualified to decide what is or isn't just for Go to do? That is what it sounds like to me. The Bible warns against this behavior, God says, My ways are not your ways. And in another place, Who are you O man to reply against God. If you don't believe it, argue with Jesus, He is the one who said it. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 6 Jul, 2010 12:39 PM I actually think that the parable is talking more about the offer of salvation then about them actually receiving it. It's available to the bad and the good, everyone is invited, but not everyone that is invited and not even everyone that actually attends the feast is saved. There is something else that has to happen according to the Matthew-version of the parable. One man that was invited and that was actually at the feast was cast out. Since he was at the feast I would think he must have been offered a robe at some point...he had either never accepted a robe(Christ's righteousness), or cast it off for his own garments(Self-righteousness) like the pharisees had done. Matthew 22:2-14 (King James Version) 2The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. 5But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. 7But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14For many are called, but few are chosen. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 6 Jul, 2010 02:19 PM Friends when Paul met jesus on the damascus road did he chose God or did God chose him. Some of us are chosen and some are not.Both can be right. If the shoe fits wear it.Dennis Post Reply
View Profile History	Why? (A Bible Study) Posted : 6 Jul, 2010 03:24 PM Hello everyone: What is interesting about this Scripture both in Matthew and Luke,Is that the Call of God is the same in Both Scriptures. The Call is of God to come, to the prepared Wedding feast for His Son. What is different is the excuses that are used not to come. 1.Buying a piece of land first without looking at the condition of the land. 2.Buying 5 yoke of oxen againg wihtout looking at the ox. 3.Marrying a wife. Buying land,ox,and getting married are important,yet not as important as the call of God upon ones life. There is one calling/Salvation,yet many ways which we experience Gods calling upon our lives. There is One Holy Spirit yet different callings of service, gifts and offices. There is only One body of Yeshua,yet many ways with which to sreve and love one another. One Gospel,yet many ways to proclaim that truth. What did not change was the Lords attitude,to having a house filled with invited guests to the wedding of His Son. Mat 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, Mat 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, Mat 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. Mat 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. Mat 22:5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: Mat 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. Mat 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. Mat 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. Mat 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. Mat 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. Mat 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: Mat 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Mat 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen. Luk 14:15 And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God. Luk 14:16 Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many: Luk 14:17 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready. Luk 14:18 And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused. Luk 14:19 And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused. Luk 14:20 And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come. Luk 14:21 So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind. Luk 14:22 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room. Luk 14:23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. Luk 14:24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper. I know that I did not want to be anything but to drink booze,lots of booze every day. It was the Lords will that He would save me,not my will. He saved me,without anyone personally sharing the gospel with me. He gave me faith trusting Yeshua,as Lord and Saviour. I was an infant spiritually. My understanding of everything pertaining to the Lord,His Kingship,Salvation,his Word,has been growing more deeply,intimately and lovingly,and trusting over the past 25 years. His relationship with me has become more intimate and personal,especially the past 7 years. I understand Him,His Grace,forgiveness, and mercy more fully,than when He first had given to me faith to trust Him. I believe the gospel is radical and that I have been radically saved and changed. Agape' and Shalom: George Post Reply

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