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John 8: 7b and Mathew 7: 1.
Posted : 1 Jul, 2010 06:04 PM

"If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged."





Woow ... I was reading this parable, is incredible, as Jesus defended the woman, to the "prostitute."





How many times have we judged someone by their way of being, by the way they dress, how to express themselves, by the way they act?.



The first thing we do is get away from that person, because we think we can pollute with their "bad manners" Automatically we say: the devil is controlling her or he; he or she is the devil.

We are doing a big mistake because we are not doing our job as Christians, our job is to share the gospel and make people who do not know God, be saved by His grace





Sometimes I think, that people to which we continually point out, those people who does not know God is closer to Him than ourselves, we should lead by example, because we act like sheep and we have a wolf within. It's a shame to not accept it, pretend that we are perfect, pretend that we do not have sisn and what is worse we judge others to feel worthy oourselve, This is funny! and this is sad! at the same time, because at least those who sins, those still are not sons of God, they dont know what they do, they dont know God, but what about us that we do! that we are sons and daughters of God why we are still sinning? why do not we ashamed of what we doing and what we are doing?.

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John 8: 7b and Mathew 7: 1.
Posted : 3 Jul, 2010 09:35 PM

There is a big difference between discernment and judgment. God gives us the gift of discernment, judgment is for God alone.



We have to use discernment (judgment) about many things, but when we start calling someone unsaved, we are crossing a line. Salvation is of God and you don't have to be worthy by man's standards, Jesus died that we might live through Him. From the best of us to the worst. However, if you continue in your sin, you should be examining yourself. You likely are not saved yet. Paul, James, Peter, and Jesus all talk about this. They even give us examples of how the Holy Spirit should be changing us.



Blessings,

Leon

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John 8: 7b and Mathew 7: 1.
Posted : 4 Jul, 2010 04:51 PM

With my views on Bible verses, I meant that we should not let ourselves be guided by the critics, or prejudices and judgments to people who do not yet know God, because I've noticed that the members in the churches there is much to judge toward people who are not Christian or do not have our the same faith... In my personal opinion, I thank the person who had the courage to tell me about a wonderful God who loves me, and cares of me, and was not carried away by my appearance, because I walked in paths of darkness. I was atheist and had false friends who are satanists and other things. In my past life I was like Saul (Paul). I persecuted the Christians and attacked. Thank God ... He saved my life. And today I am completely different than I was before.



God bless you all!



Lady Yoshua

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John 8: 7b and Mathew 7: 1.
Posted : 5 Jul, 2010 01:54 AM

Lady Yoshuda...Amen!

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John 8: 7b and Mathew 7: 1.
Posted : 5 Jul, 2010 05:44 AM

Mat 5:22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, 'Raca!' shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.



If we use the Bible to translate the word "fool", we see that it is a person who does not believe in God. This verse tells us the consequences of judging people. That is why you will see few real Pastors doing so.



Food for thought,

Leon

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John 8: 7b and Mathew 7: 1.
Posted : 5 Jul, 2010 11:14 AM

Touche' brother Leon;Touche'



I will let the Lord speak to us through His word,concerning this matter about judgements.

Remember,this Word I post concerns judgements about this life;

Not judgements concerning Eternal judgements, which only The Triune God is able to judge.

Only the Lord is able to know ones heart,and motives.

He sses the root of where we make our decisions.

We see the fruit,and consequences of our desicions,He sees the root.

When he deals with the root,then the fruit,and consequences will also be changed.





1Co 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

1Co 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

1Co 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

1Co 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

1Co 6:7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

1Co 6:8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.



If we held fast to the Word of the Lord as we say we believe;

Then maybe the Body might grow just a little bit,from drinking milk,to eating meat.



I hope everyone has a Blessed and safe week.



Agape' and Charis:

To our Jewish Brethren;

Shalom and Chesed:

George

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John 8: 7b and Mathew 7: 1.
Posted : 5 Jul, 2010 04:10 PM

George,



I am sorry if I didn't make myself clear, I agree with everything you wrote. It is those who run around judging the salvation of others that I am speaking to here. It is not a wise thing to do. Hell fire is nothing to play with, at least not as often as I have been wrong in this life. LOL.



Much love,

Leon

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Posted : 7 Jul, 2010 10:12 PM

Brother Leon:

You are correct:

Eternal Judgement belongs to the Lord,for only He knows begining to end.

Only He can judge rightly.

Only He can forgive sins

Only He can save.

Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.



Agape' and Charis:

George

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