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Admin	Justification... Posted : 21 Jun, 2010 01:53 PM Abraham is the first person the Bible describes as being JUSTIFIED. This does not mean that he was the first child of God, only that this is the first recorded case in the Bible giving us to example of the principle JUTIFICATION by faith, and the same principle God uses in justifying the ungodly/sinners. God justified Abraham as being righteous, BEFORE God had given the law. Based on Romans chapters 3-4 (1) How then are we justified? (2) Explain Abraham's JUSTIFICATION? Post Reply
View Profile History	Justification... Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 12:59 PM Leon, we are talking about justififcation, whereby God oresents us righteous before Himself, it is our right or legal standing before God, when we by faith, repent of our sins, believe, and receive Christ. This si what justification is all about it is an act of God which He , and onlyHe can do, as our reward for receivng His Son Jesus Christ through grace. Its not a mterr of trying to make scripture say what I want or anyone wants, its a matter onf understanding the meaning of justification and how it works, its an expression of Gd's love and grace and mercy toward us, by givng us His righteousness as a result of our faith. Romans chapter 4, Paul tell su that because of Abraham's faith God counted him righteous because he trusted and believed God's promises. God as I've said justified Abraham before He had even given the law., Because of Abe's faith God made him righteous. So what did Abraham do, because he believed God and because he belived, as a sign or testamnoy to God, Abraham circumcised himself which also proved that he was justified, not by circumcisim but by his faith. Romasn chapter 4-5 explains justification in more detail Again, justification means that because of our FAITH in jesus Christ, God counts us righteous before himself, when we repent of our sins and receive His Son. God give us His righteousness, and EVERYBODY who has faith to believe who are believers reap the benefits of God's blessings. There ain't no shuch thing as special people only receiving the benfits or blessings of justification, Jesus died for the sins of the woirld not just for a few. And all the people in the world are chosen by God to receive Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins and by doing so, they are declared JUSITIFIED, no longer sinners, but by God's grace do now stand righteous in His sight, therefore, NOW there is no condemnation for those who are in CHRIST! Post Reply
View Profile History	Justification... Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 02:35 PM Nobody is saying otherwise Leon, you referred to The Lord's side of the covenant, in any covenant with God there is the God side and the man side,Abraham also choose to follow the lord, he had just as much right and ability to say no, but he choose not to. Ro 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Ga 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Post Reply
View Profile History	Justification... Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 02:35 PM Nobody is saying otherwise Leon, you referred to The Lord's side of the covenant, in any covenant with God there is the God side and the man side,Abraham also choose to follow the lord, he had just as much right and ability to say no, but he choose not to. Ro 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Ga 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	Justification... Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 03:44 PM Ella, I am not arguing that point. I am saying that not everyone is called. If everyone was called, there would be no reason to have the word "called" in the bible. You could just say everyone. The fact that there are words like called, chosen, elect, saints, etc. show that there is a difference. If there were no difference, these words would not be needed. Just the language itself is proof positive of this fact. Blessings, Leon Post Reply
View Profile History	Justification... Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 04:51 PM Then the bible would have to be a lie, and God Would have to be unjust. Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	Justification... Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 07:56 PM Yes PJ, For you to be correct, the bible would have to be a lie. But who are you O man to reply against God. You have been given biblical scriptures and examples. Try to worm your way out now. Post Reply
View Profile History	Justification... Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 08:07 PM There is nothing to worm out and where are your bible examples, you gave no scripture, relative to who can be saved and how one is saved, you did post some that have nothing to do with the topic. The topic is justification. Post Reply
View Profile History	Justification... Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 08:08 PM Leon I am waiting for your scriptural references concerning justification, not a Calvinist reference to unjustification Post Reply
klmartin62 View Profile History	Justification... Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 08:13 PM They are in another topic and you know it because you are afraid to address any of it. That is why you are playing your little hate game again. Come on PJ, show me something. Post Reply
View Profile History	Justification... Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 08:17 PM I never played any hate game, believing the word of God is an example of an act of love, not hatred. Post Reply

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