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Posted : 20 Jun, 2010 07:02 PM

Why would a good God allow people to be tortured in hell forever?:devil:



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Posted : 21 Jun, 2010 03:30 PM

It would be God to say the God reflected in the post would be called Satan.

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Posted : 21 Jun, 2010 04:01 PM

There are those who insist that the Scriptures are true and need not be elaborated on. Then they come on here and announce: "I am grateful my heavenly father is not like that God."



Either your God is the God of the Bible, or your "heavenly father" is not the God of the Bible.

The God of the Bible, our Father who art in Heaven, CREATED HELL. And hell is just as eternal as heaven (Matt. 25:46).

It doesn't matter what YOU THINK God is like. God is who He is, not what we think is "kind or just" from our puny human perspective.

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Posted : 21 Jun, 2010 05:12 PM

PJ & I do not serve the same God. That means one of us will be found wanting on that day.



I don't think inhalation is a true punishment, if that was an option I would choose a life of self indulgence and steal and kill whom I please, over a life of dieing to self with trials tribulation, temptations and persecution that is promised in the NT to those who believe, then I would just go back to being none existent like I was before I was born. Would that be justice for a person like Hitler, a child molester, a fornicator or a liar?



I also don't think it is going to be a party for Satan or the demons or anyone else, Satan is not the ruler of hell nor will he be the one inflicting the pain, he will suffer like everyone else there, it is a place of torment for those that are sent. And it will be right and just for those who are sent. And all of creation will rejoice on that day when everything will be restored like in the beginning but only better, there will be no more sin and we who believe in the God of the bible (without twisting, stretching, adding or taking away from it) will be there rejoicing also.



What did Jesus save us from? The wrath of the Father! The wrath of God abides on all of us, we all deserve to be sent to hell every last one of us, until we repent and trust Jesus as savior, only then we are saved from God's wrath. And only Jesus' sacrifice was good enough to save us and only those who the Father gives to the Son will be saved.

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Posted : 21 Jun, 2010 06:01 PM

Those are your words Mr Row, you see Jesus came to give the Good news, he did not come preaching fear, he came demonstrating and preaching life.



I know what the Bible says but the post is trying to imply God sends people to hell, does it not?



Now of Satan is your God that is your Choice, not mine.

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Posted : 21 Jun, 2010 06:06 PM

Floodnut so you believe the father sends people to hell, and then try to imply I am wrong because I do not agree with you.



The God I am talking about is the father of the lord Jesus Christ.



He is not sending any to hell if any go that is there choice, and also if you will study you will see who takes the unbelievers to hell.

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Posted : 21 Jun, 2010 08:54 PM

Rev 20:11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.

Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.

Rev 20:14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Rev 20:15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.



You can deny God's word all you want PJ, but here it is in plain English. God cast them into the lake of fire. Sorry to blow your theology, but it is false.



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Posted : 21 Jun, 2010 10:14 PM

Sorry, guys...But PJ, is right on this one. God doesn't send anyone to hell, they make the choice to REJECT the gospel of Jesu Christ, and continue in their sins, and suffer the penalty of sin, which is death the punishment of sin.

Aand this second death is being cast into hell with satan and all who have rejected the gospel of Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins.

People send their ownselves ot hell because of disobedience, hell is the end results for sin. :devil::goofball:

Heaven is the end reward for obedience.:dancingp::yay::peace:

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Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 06:28 AM

What did I deny Leon, or is it what you think I Said maybe you should tell me what I said, in all your accusations you have never been correct so again tell me what I said.

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Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 10:31 AM

I have always bekieved that we had a free choice to serve Jesus.It is my free choice to serve him.All who serve jesus are predestened to go to heaven.

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Posted : 22 Jun, 2010 11:10 AM

RIGHT ON , DENNIS! YAHOO!:applause::yay::party::rocknroll:..i'LL DRINK TO THAT:toomuch::laugh:



And not only are we who believe are predestined for heaven, but we ALLl, EVERY person born in the world has been called and invited to have faith, repnet of our sins, believe and receive Jesus Christ for the forgivennes of sins. And when we obey and use our faith to believe, repent of our sins, receive the invitation to come to Cjrist, as we ALL have been called to do, we become the CHOSEN ONES who will reap the rewards of the kingdom and God makes us heirs with Jesus Christ.EVERY SINNER IS CALLED to repent and believe, and when this happens, we are then KNOWN AS BELIEVERS becuase we obeyed the call to repentance of our sins. God is no respecter of persons, everybody is CALLED to repentance, and its their choice in obedience, or their free will which is as I've said, free will is rebellion, and disobedience.

God says many are called because Jesus died for the slavation of theWHOLE WOLRD, and grace and love was offered to everyone that God created. Therefore, many are called, but few are chsen... And the reason why few are chosen, is becasue only a few will accept the invitation to come and repnet of their sins. Jesus even said the road/path to heaven is very narrow, and the road/path to hell is wide... few will be on the road/path to heaven because they obeyed the called to repentance... those on the road to hell used their free will and made thier own decision not to obey the call.

There ain't no special chosen people that God chose before the foundation of the earth to be saved. EVERYBODY BORN HAS BEEN CHOSEN BY GOD TO BE SAVED FROM THEIR SINS. For God so LOVED THE WORLD, not a few chosen people, but Jesus died for the UNSAVED WORLD,which we all were until we had faith to believe, so that WHOSOEVER(no matter who you are, what you've done, or where you come from) WHOSOEVER, believes in Jesus would not perish, but have EVERLASTING LIFE, your names will be written in the Lambs Book of Life, to coinhert the kingdom and reign with Jesus Christ.

WE ALL are called to repent and receive, and when we do this we become God's chosen people, who have obeyed His call to repentance.:bow::bow:...Elvis has left the building...:ROFL::yay::rocknroll:

Did you not know, have you not heard that the SAINTS of God will also judge angels?...think about it

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