Author	Thread: Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace?
Admin	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 01:29 PM For those Christians who believe that God is sovereign over everything in the universe, INCLUDING our salvation, I was wondering if you could post some comments and say why you are thankful for God saving you, and what the Doctrines of Grace, (the five points nicknamed Calvinism) mean to you. For those of you modern American Christians who believe that salvation is synergistic, meaning it takes God and your decision, this is a quote about Christians who believe in monergistic salvation, in other words God alone saves His people. Here is an anonymous quote to start you off on: "Therefore, in all synergistic theologies, God's love for people is always conditional. In other words, in synergism, a condition must be met by persons for God's love to kick in or take effect, so to speak. Particular Redemption Vs. Potential Redemption are, therefore, perhaps the most succinct ways to describe the realities of the theologies ... See Moreheld. Particular redemption is like a parents love for his children. When he sees his child run into the street, he does not merely call to him hoping for a response. He runs out into the street, rather, to make certain his child does not get run over. True love gets the job done. " In Christ, James Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 10:09 PM Not a very good example for "predestined election" though....Israel failed and was judged and cast down and put to death for sinning against God. They eventually had Jesus put to death and the majority were "cut off the vine"... :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 10:12 PM oh shux hit!! :ROFL::ROFL: nyanda:purpleangel: Post Reply
View Profile History	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 10:15 PM No James I did not say that God was not a respector of persons, he did. When you say Jew, whom are you speaking of? Post Reply
View Profile History	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 10:15 PM No James I did not say that God was not a respector of persons, he did. When you say Jew, whom are you speaking of? Post Reply
View Profile History	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 10:22 PM James, I was a student in both Bible College and Seminary. I find most of Church History embarrassing to the name of Jesus Christ and the primary reason I do not refer to myself as a Christian. As for Calvin, he did not have to be the one to do the killing but he was responsible for Servetus� death from everything I have found. As far as I'm concerned that makes him a killer or murderer, however you like to put it. As for other facts of history involving the leaders and members of the Church being killers, I have pointed out before that it was Christians who tortured and killed in the Crusades and the Inquisition. There have been apologies for both but apologies don't change history. Thunder Post Reply
View Profile History	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 10:29 PM 1 Corinthians 3 "Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly�mere infants in Christ. I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere men? For when one says, �I follow Paul,� and another, �I follow Apollos,� are you not mere men? What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe�as the Lord has assigned to each his task. I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. The man who plants and the man who waters have one purpose, and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. For we are God�s fellow workers; you are God�s field, God�s building. By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should be careful how he builds. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man�s work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames. Don�t you know that you yourselves are God�s temple and that God�s Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God�s temple, God will destroy him; for God�s temple is sacred, and you are that temple. Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a �fool� so that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God�s sight. As it is written: �He catches the wise in their craftiness�; and again, �The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.� So then, no more boasting about men! All things are yours, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future�all are yours, and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God." In Christ Garrett Post Reply
View Profile History	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 10:34 PM I am not saying it was meant that way, but Jesus Freak that is a very anti calvin post. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 10:34 PM I am not saying it was meant that way, but Jesus Freak that is a very anti calvin post. Post Reply
View Profile History	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 25 Apr, 2010 10:37 PM oh my goooooosh, get out of my head Garreth!! wow! i made a thread after reading the banter with the same content! now i come back to see you post the same thing on this thread, wow.... all i have to say.. "it's the same spirit"! nyanda:purpleangel: p.s well danggggggggg....... Post Reply
View Profile History	Why are you thankful for the Doctrines of Grace? Posted : 26 Apr, 2010 06:50 AM :ROFL: @ PhillipJohn :ROFL: Your are a :goofball: And a :devil: :nahnah: Post Reply

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