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stormcountry33

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Adam and Eve alone?
Posted : 11 Jan, 2010 08:43 AM

Hey everyone, just throwing this out there for conversation and to see if I stand alone.... Not too long ago, in the church that I grew up in, there was a conversation on whether or not Adam and Eve were the only humans that God created. My pastor said that the bible, while not saying there were others created, does leave open the possibility that God created other humans after he created Adam and Eve. This blew my mind. Some Deacons and other leaders in the church didn't argue against this point. After a week of study I mentioned my beliefs on Adam and Eve being the ONLY humans that God created and the response I got was "does it really matter??" I just want to know if am I crazy or was I right to challenge the thought of other humans being created after Adam and Eve?

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GlendoraMike

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2010 10:40 PM

DNA traces have already answered that question. In tests performed on the different continents, it has been found that :

1. All women are desended from one woman.



2. All men are desended from one man.



The odds against the offspring of just these two individuals surviving to today and not the desendants of others is way out there.



Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters besides the three that are named. Abraham married a half-sister and Issac and Jacob married first cousins. Moses had his uncle-grandpa. The tribes pretty much married inside their own tribes.

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Posted : 12 Jan, 2010 10:03 AM

Eve is the mother of all living because through her bloodline, Christ was born. I agree with John O on most else including the making of the races on the 6th day and Adam on the 8th. In Hebrew, it seems a very simple thing. It is only when we translate to English that we start having all these problems.



You will never find these answaer without doing word studies in the original languages. Our English manuscripts just don't show it.



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Leon

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Adam and Eve alone?
Posted : 13 Jan, 2010 06:41 PM

When you ask, storm, "does it really matter?" maybe it doesn't matter whether or not Adam and Eve were the only humans that God created. It does matter, though, whether or not we dismiss the beliefs of a brother simply because they don't match our own, and if we make a dogma out of our own hypotheses and ridicule those who don't agree.

I am looking at the Hebrew, and am not sure what it is that Leon sees that makes him so certain that creation of the races is so obvious. *adam* can be translated as 'mankind' or 'man'. Neither one of those choices would make it necessary to insist that multitudes of people were created.

There is a small detail that both Leon and John seem to have overlooked: the Flood. The entire human population of the earth save Noah and his family was destroyed by water, so what ever races may have been created on Day Six, after a few thousand years, not one of them was surviving. Not that God couldn't have created them just for fun, but what would have been the point?

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Adam and Eve alone?
Posted : 13 Jan, 2010 07:10 PM

dear zelabat, welcome to the forums.. nice post by the way...



and dear leon , hey its good to see you again my old friend.. i hope you are still well and good...

ole cattle

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Posted : 14 Jan, 2010 09:56 AM

As to the idea of "races." That is a concept created by people who wanted to believe that their group was better than the others. The Europeans of northwestern Europe were supposed to be the most evolved.



Science has shown that we all are descended from one man and one woman. If there were others; their descendants don't exist today.



Science now knows that the old concept of races is wrong. Trying to find where one people group ends and another begins doesn't happen. We are different in shapes, colors, nose shape and hair type. In India, the same parents can have children with dark and light colored skin and light and dark colored hair.



As to color; we are all some shade of brown. Take a white person to the beach and they will start turning brown. There are pinkish browns, reddish browns, yellowish browns, light browns, medium browns and dark browns, except for a few that have no color. We are all descended from a couple that was probably a medium brown.



Take the term "Caucasoid." While most think of this as being western European, we find that a small group of people in northern Japan have Caucasoid features.

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Posted : 15 Jan, 2010 12:53 PM

@ john o- "Go back to Gen 2 :26 And God said let us make man in "our" image, after "our" likeness and let "them" have ............"

there is no 2:26 in my bible.



i believe u were referring to the sixth day 1:26 where he refers to himself in a plural form and the man he had created, is it right to assume that there are more than one God's? i don't mean father son and holy spirit, but the God head?



what i understand from reading gen 1:27 ("So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he HIM; male and female created he them.") to me that means that both male and female were in the same body (hermaphrodite) and in gen 1:18 God said it was not good for man to be alone and he would make him an help meet for him, gen 1:21 God took that female part from adam's body (performed surgery) and closed up the flesh (stitched him up). gen 1:22 he used that rib (the female organs? i think so..) and formed 'wom'an (womb?....maybe). there is a certain part of a man's body where the female part used to be and now there are remnants stitches...................



furthermore in mark when Jesus was questioned about divorce in chapter 10:5-9 emphasis on 8 which says "And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh." hence both factions are reunited and one flesh as it was when he created man.



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GlendoraMike

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Posted : 15 Jan, 2010 02:03 PM

I am seeing some confusion in what Genesis says. Chapter 1 covers the days of creation. On day 6, God made creatures that are land based.(sea and air creatures were day 5) Man was created on the 6th day also. Verse 27 tells us that they are male and female.



Chapter 2 is an expanded look at day 6. Note: In verse 4, the word used for day can also be days. In verses 5 and after, we get a look at what happened on day 6. Nothing stops Eve from being formed on day 6.



Also, Adam got to witness God creating the Garden Of Eden. This would confirm to him that God was the sole creator and not someone who could just claimed to be.

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Adam and Eve alone?
Posted : 15 Jan, 2010 06:43 PM

Well...technically Adam was asleep, lol. God is a excellent anesthesiologist.





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Posted : 4 Mar, 2010 11:31 AM

When it comes to discussing/commenting/criticizing the Bible or the things in it, one must know that a translated work does not give guarantee for anything.

The singular or plural number also is a problem with many translations.

Some questions we logically ask and 'foolishly' conclude also must be based on other passages of the Bible because the biblical questions/doubts are vividly clarified by the Bible itslef.

Cain's wife is NOT a problem at all. If we live a 100 yrs supposedly, we marry at 25yrs. Adam lived about a 1000yrs and they used to marry at 250yrs of age...just a real supposition! So, Adam and Eve might have delivered many children after Cain and Abel. Cain married his own sister then just like now with some people!

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