Author	Thread: false teachings
Admin	false teachings Posted : 16 Nov, 2009 10:05 AM friends let us not fall into false teachings.After jesus had fsated for 40 days what happened?satan came up to him and misquated the bible. Before I was saved I believed in reincarnation.I gave up that false religion and excepted Jesus as my lord and savior.I am shocked and floored that anyone could misquote the word as to say it says we are reincarnated as someone as done.I accepted jesus so that I could have eternal life in heaven.:stop: I vehemitly oppose all false teachings in the church.When I gave up my belief in this false teaching the holy spirit opened my eyes up to see that jesus died on the cross to save me from my sins. 2nd false teaching I have seen here recently.A member said that we are neither evil or good but it is all scientific chemicals in our brains.Friends stop blaming science to shrug off your responsiblity of admiting you need jesus to save you. reincarnation and science are not biblical as an exuse to do away with god.Jesus never said we would be reincarnated. I have one thing to say get behind me :devil: I left the false teaching of reincarnation over 22 years ago and will not go back.If you want to believe in it leave this site and become a toad!!!!!!! Post Reply
View Profile History	false teachings Posted : 20 Nov, 2009 04:04 AM Great site E.T. and these sites are a blessing today with so many works-based religions around us! In Christ Steve Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	false teachings Posted : 20 Nov, 2009 08:27 AM You should start adding "in my opinion" after your posts. I don't view my religion as works based. Believing in Jesus sacrifice through the work of the Holy Spirit isn't a work that saves me. It's what the bible tells us to do. Believe and be saved, not be saved and believe. If you don't think "believe and be saved" is biblical then you're gonna have a lot of bible re-translation to do. I just find it strange that apparently only one of the 10 commandments counts as a "work", and none of the others do. Not committing adultery is a work. If you're an adulterer, you aren't going to be in heaven. Not worshiping idols is a work. If you're an idolater, you aren't going to be in heaven. Does that mean not doing those things saves you? No. Jesus sacrifice is the only thing that saves. We work because we're grateful for what Jesus did, and we want to please Him by doing everything that He wants, the way He wants it done. It's the fruit of our love and belief. Visit prisoners, help the poor, feed the hungry. Aren't those works? Jesus said if we don't do those things then we aren't saved. But it's not the works that save us, can you understand that? Probably not...because you think you'll always be saved no matter what...but I believe our works are the result of our salvation. If people don't work, then they were never really saved. They don't really believe or care about Jesus sacrifice. If they did, they would do everything He asked out of pure love. Anyway...it's perfectly biblical. I don't see the problem with works as long as you aren't looking to them for salvation. The difference is, "once saved always saved." You believe God makes you do everything. I don't. Here's a good parable. God gave all these men "talents". They were all His servants. One fails and gets cast into "outer darkness". Once saved always saved? Re-translate please. Matthew 25:19 After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. 20 And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. 21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. 22 He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them. 23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. 24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: 25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. 26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: 27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. 28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. 29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. 30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. If you think believing in God's free gift of salvation is a work...then you must have a really sad work ethic... God moves on everyone with the Holy spirit. The Holy Spirit and the law convicts us of our sin and shows us our need for a Savior. It show us this, "Oh wretched man that I am! Who will save me from this body of death?!", so we will get to this, "I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord". After we believe in the sacrifice of Jesus, we accept it as a free gift that we cannot earn. :nahnah::nahnah: Post Reply
View Profile History	false teachings Posted : 20 Nov, 2009 01:36 PM But what will happen to you if you go to church on sunday? In Christ Steve And what is the mark of the beast? and who is ellen white Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	false teachings Posted : 20 Nov, 2009 04:27 PM Well sir, "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." I believe the Seventh day is the day we're supposed to worship on and whether I'm right or not, I can't change my beliefs without proof. I can't find any proof for Sunday or any other day in the bible, so I can't change it or it would be sin to me. The mark of the beast would be the opposite of the mark of God. It's people or powers that do not keep all the commandments of God, and that do not have the testimony of Jesus. The beast tries to change times and laws, and try's to put itself as equal with God, so someone who has the mark of the beast would be someone that serves the beast with their thoughts and works(forehead and hands). But you have to remember, nobody has the mark of the beast yet. It comes at the end, right about the same time God is calling His people out of "Babylon". Anybody that chooses to stay in "Babylon" is or will be marked with the beast. And I believe Ellen White is a prophetess. I don't worship her, and I don't put her writings before the bible. My beliefs come from the bible alone. Ask/challenge me about my beliefs and you will get bible verses and a lot of them. But the point is...she agrees with everything I find in the bible, and that's the test of a prophet. She doesn't agree with what you believe, but I don't think the thought ever crosses your mind that you could be wrong and that's fine. All I ask is that if God punches you in the face with truth later....listen to the punching:boxing:. I'll do the same thing. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm willing to listen, but I need real proof. Not 1 verse with 15 other verses that contradict it. That's silly, and that's what I've been getting. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	false teachings Posted : 20 Nov, 2009 05:03 PM So people who worship on sunday carry the mark of the beast? In Christ steve Post Reply
View Profile History	false teachings Posted : 21 Nov, 2009 04:59 PM Hey Mark,if god punches me in my face and tells me to bow down to Helen Hunt or Ellen White or whoever then I guess I would,but for now Ill just stick with JESUS CHRIST ok. In the seventh day adventist vows you say in your baptismal ceremony you admit Elen White is a prophet and must agree to everything she says,also that your church is the ONLY true church and everyone else is hellbound. Wow,you cant see the problem here? no wonder you cant understand my posts! I will pray for you bro In Christ Steve Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	false teachings Posted : 21 Nov, 2009 05:34 PM Yup, in the end. Just like people who worship idols. Just like people who commit adultery. I believe they are all breaking God's law. You worship on Sunday, but you don't have "the mark of the beast". Why not? Because it isn't time yet. I guess what I'm trying to say is...at the end God will make His will clear to His people. Maybe I'll have to change the way I believe. Maybe it's you will. Maybe we both will. That's all I'm saying. I don't claim infallibility. Just have to wait and see. The point is...God calls His people out of "babylon". Why? Shouldn't they all be following His will perfectly? What are they doing in babylon?? Isn't babylon evil? Obviously, some of God's people have it wrong. God has people in every church. Even people that are in serious error. When it's time, He will call everyone out into one movement. Everybody that responds will receive God's seal, the rest receive the mark of the beast. The people that respond will be true servants of God, and when He points out their confusion they will say "oh...let me change to the right way". They will have an attitude of following every command of God they have knowledge of...and if they receive knowledge of an error in their life...they will correct their mistake. In any church...mine, yours, the Jew's, the pope's, morman's...there are people of God. God will call them out when the time comes, I just happen to believe that He will call them out into keeping all His commandments. Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. That is the church of God?? Sounds like they need something doesn't it? I'd say God is talking about the lack of christian character in the "christian" church. People think they have everything they need, and that they don't have to do anything. God is saying they are actually naked, blind, poor, and wretched. God is saying that His SAVED Christians need to repent. What? Why? We're saved, right? That's all we need, right? God is saying they need these things. Gold=Christ's Character. White raiment=purity. Eye salve=Spiritual Discernment/Knowledge of the truth. :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	false teachings Posted : 21 Nov, 2009 08:43 PM ok Post Reply

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