Author	Thread: Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity?
nomoreusernamesleft View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 3 Nov, 2025 01:52 PM Rupert Murdock is one of the wealthiest men in the world. He is the sole owner of Harper Collins NewsCorp, Harper Collins Publishing, Harper Collins Christian Publishing (among many media corporations). Among his holdings are pornography media, the Satanic Bible,,LGBTQ material, public and private school curriculum, Thomas Nelson publishing and Zondervan Publishing. Either he is a very benevolent philanthropic man that just has a heart to help local "churches" (as long as they are officially recognized US-26-501(c)3 non-profit organizations) or he has an evil agenda to influence the faith of Jesus Christ and leverage his influence over organizations. He's picked up the torch of Manly P. Hall and friends and has successfully inoculated the anyls of faith with substitute Bibles, narratives and ideologies which are in conflict with "every word of God," as God has preserved his words for every generation. The occultist, Manly P. Hall was quoted as saying that two key things were necessary for them to succeed in having their one world order: 1) Convince the Christians to accept a "better version" of the Bible (he reportedly voiced his disdain for them "holding onto that old King James Version.... every jot and tittle.) After stating that "we've been trying to get them to accept a better version of the Bible for 100 years. " 2) exalt psychology as an accepted science in society and government. Looks like they were successful. Rupert Murdock is not a benevolent philanthropic man. He is a snake and his donations and influence in so called "Christianity" is reprehensible, at best. The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted. Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 5 Nov, 2025 06:22 PM I’m not trying to be purposely rude. Post Reply
nomoreusernamesleft View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 5 Nov, 2025 07:44 PM Your questions were closed ended with a false dichotomy that showed that you already made assumptions that were not based on my words, but came from your own ideas. The Bereans did not have to search the matters out to believe. The scripture said that they received the word upon hearing it. The thing that made them more noble than they of Thessalonica was that they searched the scriptures to verify the things that they had heard and received. That is literally exactly what I said that I did, yet you made a fallacy to contrast what the Bereans did, presupposing that I did not, even though I said that I did. I didn't have to search the matter out because I knew it was so. I decided to search the matter out to verify that which I had heard and received. I actually do critically examine information that is in conflict with what I believe to discover the truth of matters because I know every one of us has been deceived. I could also detect that you have a bias against people that hold to the King James Version Bible, as you used a term that was coined by (I think) James White who is a strong opponent to the King James Version, calling them "King James Onlyists." Which is a very disingenuous means to condescend men that do not accept the new Bibles, for whatever reasons that they have. I shared some of the best information that I have found put together. I try to not have respect of persons because men are fallible. I certainly avoid holding any high regard for people that have any kind of celebrity status in this world (whether secular or "Christian). I will give honor to whom honor is due. Joshua Jocelyn is a man that has done a good work in searching out the historical records of the two main bodies of texts. David Daniels did an excellent work at discovering the fraud behind the septuigent and the Codexes to clearly show how they were forged by Vatican agents. There's much more deception in this world and in Christianity than most people realize. When Jesus began to expound upon the signs to look for to know when he shall return and when the end of the world shall be, the very first thing he commanded was "Take heed that no man deceive you, for many shall come in my name, saying I am Christ and shall deceive many." If God had not preserved his words, we would all perish in deception. I do not want to strive against any persons. I want to share what I've learned and also learn what others have to share, examining this, independently, testing things to God's words first and searching matters out. I have no ill towards you. I have read many of the things that you've posted here and can see that you contend for the faith, zealously. Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 6 Nov, 2025 06:13 AM I appreciate your honesty and input. I want and need my arguments vigorously challenged. You’re welcome to challenge anything I post. I benefit more from severe exchanges than I do from those who flatter. Critical reviews force me to rethink and hone in specifics or to nuance and clarify. You do not have to be nice‼️😀 If I am presented with an argument of which I disagree I try to focus my disagreement squarely on the argument. It’s not my intention to attack the person making the argument. Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 6 Nov, 2025 06:37 AM As for the “closed questions” I presented, of course were intended to illicit yes or no responses but not necessarily designed to trap you into a false dichotomy. That’s why I left you the option of countering my assumptions. My assumptions seemed adequately inferred from the statements you posted Post Reply
nomoreusernamesleft View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 17 Nov, 2025 05:45 PM Herev is one example (of literally thousands) of changes which are not insignificant. In the word for word translation of the original tongues into the English language, Isaiah 14:12 reads: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" (No copyright notice necessary, as it is a word for word translation from the words of God which are public domain...nobody "owns" the words therein) The same chapter and verse coming from a new Bible: "How you have fallen from heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!" (Scripture taken from the Holy Bible, NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION®, NIV® Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.) In Revelation 22, Jesus stated that he is the bright and morning star. "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." (Again no notice of copyright required) So that new Bible gives Satan the title of Jesus, Christ, the Lord in the same verse where we are told that Satan wanted to have the position of the Lord! HELLO...... guess who Rupert Murdock serves? It is not the Lord. What does the Lord say about his words? "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." "Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar." For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:  But the word of the Lord endureth for ever.  And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. "We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." The single most common denominator in this modern apostasy (which is the falling away that was foretold) is the acceptance of the new, changed Bibles. Not only do they not agree with each other, they do not agree within their own texts! This is because they are not the words of God, but are the words of evil men that changed God's words to their own. Anytime anyone publishes quotes of any verses from a new Bible that has an international copyright, they are required by law to accompany it with a notice of copyright. The reason is because the words therein are not God's words; they belong to the copyright holder and of the quotation does not include a notice of copyright, then the person quoting the verses is stealing someone else's property. In an earlier post, I linked the best presentations that I've found which go into the history of how God preserved every word of God for every generation (as he said that he would do), and also the documented conspiracies to subvert the words of God by Vatican agents. Just as the serpent offered Eve an alternative to what God actually said, so he does to the masses today. "Yay, hath God said?" God's words do not have contradictions in them. The new Bibles are full of contradictions, inconsistencies, omissions and additions. Which is why there can be no unity in doctrine among those that use the new Bibles. It would behoove you to investigate the claims that I've made here and also to watch those excellent presentations. There is a coming delusion to those that refuse to receive a love for the truth. "Thy word is truth." "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be da*ned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 17 Nov, 2025 07:05 PM Interesting words Yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. (1 Corinthians 14:19) Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 17 Nov, 2025 07:24 PM Yes, some give more special devotion to the King James, and I like the King James. But it isn't the way that people speak now days, and I'd rather speak in words that people understand. Of course, there is a place for "ever hearing, but never perceiving". We are a dull crowd. Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 18 Nov, 2025 03:00 AM I read the King James. But it is not Hebrew or Greek. It is a "translation". Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 18 Nov, 2025 03:31 AM I agree, the updated NIV has gotten a good bit shaky. I like the Old NIV much better. I prefer "literal" translations of the Bible or WORD FOR WORD translations of the Bible or "DYNAMIC EQUIVALENT" as they say. I do not go for Paraphrase. I have not liked some over-simplified versions of the Bible. I do not choose the Living Bible. I lost my Kwikscan Bible years ago and have not replaced it and only sampled reading it and was impressed so bought it from my aunt when she offered to sell it to me. I go to Biblegateway.com; I compare Bible translations there. The Bible is a "Proclamation of God's Word". It did not come down from a printing press in heaven. There is a "human factor". Jesus said that he does not accept human testimony, but he mentioned John and mentions others that we maybe saved. "But I receive not testimony from man, but these things I say, that ye might be saved." (John 5:34) The prophesies of John of Patmos came with a warning. Those warnings were for anyone that changed or omitted any words of the prophesy. That prophesy was the Book of Revelation. In context, it concerns the Book of Revelation. But Jesus does tell us concerning THE LAW which came through Moses that "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven." (Matthew 5:19) There are no perfect Bibles. There are no "perfect" Bible translations. Some are better than others, and the King James is better than many. But people do not talk that way any more. Not many people speak OLD ENGLISH. It is like hearing a FOREIGN TONGUE to some. So, it then becomes like PAUL says in 1 Corinthians 14:19, "Yet in the church I would rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue." Post Reply
WalkNTalk View Profile History	Who Is Rupert Murdock And Why Does He Have An Interest To Influence Christianity? Posted : 18 Nov, 2025 04:49 AM Yes, I am aware that in the Book of Revelation, Jesus is called "morning star" (Revelation 22:16) and that in Isaiah 14:12, Satan is called "morning star". The Mormons say that Jesus and Satan are brothers. The Bible speaks of "the sons of God". (Genesis 6:2, Genesis 6:4, Job 1:6, Job 2:1) The Jehovah Witness call Jesus Michael. They say that Michael is Jesus. Of Satan and Jesus both being called "morning star" is a paradox. An interesting twist. Your challenge before was to say things for memory without looking things up, so I spoke of "Bright Morning Star". Revelation, Jesus tells us that HE is "the Bright Morning Star". " “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!" (Isaiah 4;12 KJV) I see that you are upset that a number of Bible translations Lucifer also is rendered "morning star" in their handling of Isaiah 4:12. Even the NASB which is considered a literal translation. I understand the squabble. I apologize for my use of Isaiah 4:12 which upset you. I see Isaiah 4:12 gets handled many different ways with the many translations. But you make a good point. I on the other hand think of Satan as a Big BLACKHOLE. He lost his standing as a star. A dead star is a blackhole. And it is all "from the beginning". FROM THE BEGINNING, he has been a Trouble-Maker. He was not content with his position in the heavens. He wanted to ascend. He wanted to be EQUAL to THE MOST HIGH. I do not know how to handle Isaiah 4:12. I do not translate Bibles. I do not know Hebrew. I have many disadvantages. Some Bible translations are more reliable than others. I am unsure how to render Isaiah 4:12. But I would like a word for word translation of it. Sometimes word for word does not capture the full breath of a word of Hebrew. Great if it did! Post Reply

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