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Moonlight7

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Posted : 27 Aug, 2022 07:15 AM

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and all you others who think you are sinless!







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Is sinlessness possible?

I’ve recently run across several individuals who have either claimed sinlessness, or strongly argued that sinlessness (also known as sinless perfection and entire sanctification) is achievable. Even without studying what the Bible says about the possibility of sinlessness, simple observation of people attempting to live the Christian life causes me to seriously doubt the concept. Observation of people who claim sinlessness absolutely reinforces my doubt.



The only person the Bible describes as sinless is Jesus Christ (2 Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 4:15; 1 Peter 2:22). Every other major character in the Bible is flawed. At times, the Bible seems to go out of its way to point out the sins of significant people in the Bible. One would think that if sinlessness is possible, the Bible would give us an example of someone who achieved it.



And then there are verses such as the following:



“Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins” (Ecclesiastes 7:20).



“…and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors” (Matthew 6:12).



“If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us” (1 John 1:8).



I could perhaps dismiss Ecclesiastes 7:20 since it is old covenant. Matthew 6:12, though, is Jesus instructing us how to pray. If Jesus told us to ask God for forgiveness, it would seem we will always need forgiveness. And, in 1 John 1:8, John, when he says “we” and “us,” is referring to himself and other believers. The apostle whom Jesus loved recognized that he was not sinless, and apparently did not even consider the idea that someone to whom he was writing might be sinless.



Some point to Jesus’ instructions to “go and sin no more” in John 5:14 and 8:11 as evidence for the possibility of sinlessness. But there is a difference between what is supposed to be our goal and what the reality of our existence tells us. Of course, sinlessness is supposed to be our goal. In Matthew 5:48 Jesus says, “You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” Sinless perfection is the goal we should all be striving towards.



Until we are glorified in God’s presence in heaven, though, we will still inhabit a sin-infected body. The struggle against our flesh is constant, even for the most mature Christian (Romans 7:15–24). In the Christian life, we should progressively achieve greater and greater victory over sin, but our battle against sin will not end this side of eternity.



Some want to hold on to the possibility of sinlessness for a more practical reason. They claim, “If you tell people sinlessness is impossible, they won’t strive for it.” This claim fails for two primary reasons. First, the Bible does not teach that sinlessness is possible, so it doesn’t matter if people would be discouraged at the impossibility. We can’t lie to people in order to motivate them.



Second, we strive for perfection in many aspects of life all the while knowing we will never achieve it. Every athletic team tries to win every game, but only those suffering from delusion truly believe they will always and forever win every game. They try to win every game even though they know it ultimately is not possible. The same is true in the Christian life.



The people in my life whom I would describe as the most spiritually mature would never claim sinlessness. In fact, part of true spiritual maturity is being cognizant of the subtle sins in your life. True progress in the Christian life is honestly and humbly recognizing how much further you must go.



If you think you have arrived at sinlessness, think again. Unless you have arrived in heaven at the feet of Jesus, you still have work to do.



“Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when He appears we shall be like Him, because we shall see Him as He is.” (1 John 3:2)

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 08:19 AM

TeddyBugs—Save your fake tears for all the people you’ve lied about on the forums over the years. You’ve been name calling forever and then you sob soooo loudly about other people calling you a false teacher (which you truly are)

‼️‼️‼️Remember how you told me it was ok to LIE about Prophetic 7777⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️

You’re nothing but a false teacher who teaches false doctrine and constantly lies about people who disagree with you‼️‼️‼️‼️

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 08:51 AM

In his latest post, the TeddyBugs calls Alligator all kinda of names—thus proving Alligator’s point‼️‼️‼️

FOLKS YOU CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP‼️‼️‼️‼️

The TeddyBug actually makes Alligator’s case for her‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

Then the TeddyBug accuses me of attacking 2-3 different people.

Anyone can fact check by searching through the forum archives and see that I did NOT attack those people. I simply defended myself again their attacks!! The lying TeddyBug obviously doesn’t know the difference‼️‼️‼️



When necessary, on those very few occasions, I’ve also apologized directly to any person, on the public forum, for mistakenly mischaracterizing them—that’s also archived





Also, by searching the achieves you can see the constant lying, exaggerations and irrelevant name calling of other forum members‼️‼️‼️‼️

The TeddyBug has engaged in name calling, yet he complains and cries out loud about name calling‼️‼️‼️



Flat Earth TeddyBug, you’ve called me names many times but where have I complained and cried about it⁉️⁉️

Why don’t you just man up for a change—if you can’t handle what you hand out then go home and cry there‼️‼️

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 08:56 AM

FINALLY getting back to the topic after the biased alligator distracted the purpose of this thread!





Alligator says - 'And NO, sinlessness is not possible.'



But who should believe alligator or John talking about the BORN AGAIN SAINTS this side of heaven obviously?????????????????????????????????????????????



1 John 3:9! ' Whosoever is born of YHWH >>>doth not commit sin;<<< for His seed remaineth in him/her: and >>>he/she cannot sin<<<, because he/she is born of YHWH.'



Obviously alligator is ATTEMPING to contradict JOHN!!!??



CASE CLOSED!

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 09:04 AM

littledavid I have already in my post said I call names, for the purpose so that you know what it feels like! So are you blind to admitting that, so what's your point here??? You knock it off what you started long ago and I will also then because you are finally done with your wickness! Got it? So does it start here blind man in what I posted above?



Also alligator is biased about all who are 'unkind' (calling me a name of being unkind!) so of course I will call her names back so that she knows what it feels like to be labeled as a name caller! Got it?

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 09:14 AM

The LIAR littledavid says - 'When necessary, on those very few occasions, I’ve also apologized directly to any person, on the public forum, for mistakenly mischaracterizing them—that’s also archived'



PROVE IT, Post the thread where it can be found or shut your LYING YAP!



All the years I have been on here, NEVER once have you been NOT belittling someone and run them off the forum!



CASE IN POINT - 'Quote of Mitzyme - 'No wonder people here dont get engaged in Bible conversation because of people like this littledavid!!!'



She no longer posts (SADLY) on this part of the forum because of littldavid readers and his FORCED doctrine on others like the word 'planet' supposedly found in the Bible????

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 09:49 AM

Liitledavid selectively in this very thread leaves out what I said and therefore does not want you to see what was said about >>>me INCLUDED<<< in the name calling!



QUOTE OF Ted - 'Well well, the Alligator name you claim is the PERFECT name for you then, claiming to be calling someone out BUT BEING BAISED on the name calling, insults and YES un-kindness from all of them, >>>including me<<<, while you swim around in your self righteous swamp choosing your BAISED type of 'food' and SELECTED prey?'



So what was the purpose in littledavid's RANT below then readers when I have already said I do???



QUOTE of littledavid - The TeddyBug has engaged in name calling, yet he complains and cries out loud about name calling! TeddyBug, you’ve called me names many times but where have I complained and cried about it!? Why don’t you just man up for a change!



So readers have I already 'man up' in name calling myself above in what I posted, for the purpose of letting littledavid knows how it feels and he DOES NOT LIKE IT when I take OWNERSHIP of him about his character, showing him the mirror! LOL! So what's this imagined cryin thing all about according to him unless its him crying inside because he was defeated by his own medicine! LMBO! I love 'handling' you dude, its fun and easy to give you what you deserve, you CERTAINLY have coming to you since you like to dish it out, you WICKED sinful 'continually sinning perfectionist' you claim to be this side of heaven! I certainly HAVE never said I was 'sinless' on this forum and YOU therefore are a LIAR until you do quote the thread I have said so! So get after it or shut your STINKING LYING YAP! The crickets are chirping all the louder!

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 09:57 AM

You saw the post I apologized to Prophet 7777 when I misunderstood a post he wrote‼️‼️‼️AND you where there‼️‼️

So when did you apologize for outright lying about him⁉️⁉️⁉️ When did you ever apologize for all the outright lies you told on the forums about all the other people who dared to disagree with you⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️

Now you’re falsely attacking Ohio, Quiznos and Alligator just because they DARED to disagree with the self-proclaiming sinless perfectionist Flat Earth TeddyBug‼️‼️‼️‼️

Thanks once again for proving what a liar you continue to be‼️‼️

Mitzyme attacked me after l wrote a respectful post disagreeing with her and you know it‼️‼️

False teachers lie and the TeddyBug is no exception ‼️‼️‼️

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 10:19 AM

littledaivid writes - 'You saw the post I apologized to Prophet 7777 when I misunderstood a post he wrote‼️‼️‼️AND you where there!'



Where tinynoproofdavid??? Post it here or You are LIAR!



littledaivid writes - 'So when did you apologize for outright lying about him?'





What are you talking about, oh I get it making up LIES now??? Where tinynoproofdavid??? Post it here or You are LIAR!



littledaivid writes - 'Now you’re falsely (???) attacking Ohio, Quiznos and Alligator just because they DARED to disagree with Teddy!



So you have an opinion it was attacking when I challenge them, no f=different than you do! LOL! An it was alligator that 'ATTACKED' (by your own word) me first, the I call her names like she did me!!!



Well thanks littledavid once again for proving what a BIASED liar you continue to be‼️‼️



littledaivid writes - Mitzyme attacked me after l wrote a respectful post disagreeing with her and you know !



She NEVER attacked you but to defend herself because you belittled her and disrespected her question and when I exposed your false doctrine, she caught on to what you was doing you refused to apologize to her and ADMIT that YES the word 'planet' is NOT found in the Bible and she was right all along!



So readers its littledavid that is the 'False teacher' and LIES about the truth in the Bible of what he actually says outside Scripture to many people, then if they disagree he is belittling to them and claims he is the HOLY 'exception' to do so‼️‼️‼️



You really want me to post all of what Mitzyme posted and then you will be embarrASSed to what you said and did to her?

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 10:58 AM

Teddy



You turned this Biblical topic into your stupid insulting name calling thread!



Your Ugliness and abuser character in others shows again!





You are definitely Not a good witness for God on Biblical !



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Moonlight7

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Posted : 28 Aug, 2022 11:01 AM

Teddyhug



You are full of Prideful flesh and sin almost every time you post anything on Biblical!



Sinless You are Not.

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