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Moonlight7 View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 05:56 AM The answer to the question “are God and Jesus the same person?” really depends on what is meant by the same person. If this question means to ask “Is Jesus really God?” or “Is Jesus God in the flesh?” then the answer would be “Yes—Jesus is fully divine. He has all the attributes of God” (see Colossians 2:9). However, the question could be interpreted another way, which would require a different answer. Theologically speaking, Jesus and the Father are different Persons of the Trinity. They are one in nature and essence, but they are different in personhood. There is an ancient heresy called modalism (and a more modern variation called Oneness theology), which teaches that God does not exist in three co-equal, co-eternal Persons, but only one. According to modalism, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not three individual Persons but simply three modes of revelation: sometimes God reveals Himself as the Father, other times as the Son, and still other times as the Holy Spirit. If the question is asked, “are Jesus and God the Father the same person?” the modalist would answer “yes,” but biblical Trinitarians would answer “no.” The doctrine of the Trinity is the best explanation for all of the biblical evidence. There is only one God, but He exists eternally as three individual Persons and has revealed Himself as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. This is different from the teaching of three individual gods because the three Persons of the Trinity are co-equal, co-eternal, interdependent, and always in complete agreement. There is one God who exists as three individual Persons. Thus, the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God; however, the Father is not the same person as the Son, nor is the Son the same person as the Holy Spirit. This is sometimes complicated by the fact that God the Father is often simply called “God” in the New Testament. The first three verses of the Gospel of John give us an idea of how this works out: John 1:1. In the beginning was the Word . . . (We know from verse 14 that the Word is Jesus. In the beginning, He was already there.) . . . and the Word was with God . . . (At least two Persons are in view here: one called “God” and one called “the Word.”) . . . and the Word was God (The Word is distinct from God, yet He is also called “God.” The Word is divine in His essential nature.) John 1:2. He was with God in the beginning (After the essential identification of the Word as God, once again the distinction is emphasized—He was with God when it all began.) John 1:3. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made (Here, we see that the Word is actually the Creator. He made everything. In the Old Testament, we are told that God created everything—Genesis 1:1.) It is this kind of biblical information that led to the formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity. When “God” is spoken of in the Old Testament, most people probably think of God the Father, but it would be more accurate to think of “God the Trinity.” In the New Testament, we see how each Person of the Trinity assumed different roles in the redemption of lost humanity, but the different Persons are always in complete agreement. Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 10:02 PM Folks does this clown littledavid make any sense at all when he says Pipiripi has refuted my so called 'doctrine on the Trinity' when the Bible has nothing to say about 3 'persons' in heaven so what is he talking about Pipiripi because I AGREE with you on the crazy English talk outside of Scripture when they don't even understand what OF OF OF means, example given above in Genesis 1:2! He is such a word twister of people and puts doctrines into people posts they never said! What a LIAR littledavid is OBVIOUSLY because I'm agreeing with you! Then he goes into more hallucinations claiming its got something to with driving a vehicle??? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? From the spinning empty sphere between the ears of littledavid no doubt! Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 22 Aug, 2022 10:14 PM Alligator, do you see below how littledavid is already beginning to belittle you (So far so good' he says! ), BUT pssst you have it all wrong he is saying when he says - 'HOWEVER' the CULT trinity/triad teachings is about '3 distinct persons' and one is INVISABLE, a Spirit but strangely there is ONLY ONE GODHEAD which says he has POWER over the other two, yet they are all equal??? LMBO! Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 23 Aug, 2022 05:55 AM Hahaha, look at this folks‼️‼️ If I copied and posted Hellen White and other false teachers the 🤥TeddyBug🤥 worships, he would be praising me for coping and pasting ‼️‼️ What a lying hypocrite‼️‼️‼️‼️ May as well get used to it my dear false teaching flat earther and mythical unicorn rider, you’ll get even more threads and refutations like those that expose all your flaky false teachings‼️‼️‼️‼️🤣😀😁🤓🤣 Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 23 Aug, 2022 06:48 AM Teddyhug You like to Spread gossip and then Lie on others! You don't except Bible Truths posted in your face on this Forum. You need to Repent of your self Righteousness! Foolishness! You are far from any Perfection and call yourself studying for Missionary ! Start by correcting your big insulting " name calling" mouth on here . Post Reply
Alligator View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 23 Aug, 2022 10:46 AM hmmmm. it is amazing that a simple explanation made to a FIVE YEAR OLD over 50 years ago could elicit so much hatred. I never said it was right or wrong, only that an adult said it to a 5 year old child. Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Jesus is fully divine Posted : 24 Aug, 2022 03:40 PM Who’s hating? Post Reply

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