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Dom_64

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Posted : 2 Jan, 2022 04:28 PM

1. Was John the Baptizer sent to baptize with water? Yes.

2. Why was John the Baptizer sent to baptize with water? To manifest Jesus to Israel (John 1:31).

3. Did John the Baptizer want Jesus to baptize him with water? Yes.

4. Did Jesus refuse to baptize John the Baptizer with water? Yes.

5. Did Christ send Paul to baptize with water? No. (1 Cor. 1:17).

6. When the Twelve were ordained by Jesus as recorded in Mark 3:13-19, did He ordain them to baptize with water? No. They were ordained that He might send them forth to preach, and to have power to heal sicknesses, and to cast out devils.

7. When the Twelve were sent out by Jesus as recorded in Matthew 10:1-15, did He send them out to baptize with water? No. He sent them to preach...heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead and cast out devils.

8. When the Seventy were sent out by Jesus as recorded in Luke 10:1-20 did He send them out to baptize with water? No.

9. When Jesus sends out the Two Witnesses (prophets) during the Great Tribulation will they be sent out to baptize with water? No. They are to prophesy and work miracles. (Rev. 11:3-6). 10. When the 144,000 Jews are saved during the Great Tribulation is there any mention of them being water-baptized? No.

11. In all of Paul's epistles does he give instructions concerning who is to be water-baptized or how they are to be water-baptized or who is qualified to be the baptizer? No.

12. In all of Paul's epistles does he have anything to say about water-baptism? Yes. One, that Christ did not send him to water-baptize, and two, he writes of the heretical baptisms for the dead.

13. In the epistle to the Jewish Christians (Hebrews) was anything mentioned about water baptism? Yes. In chapter 9, verse 10 the writer said that divers washings (baptismos) were imposed until the time of the (Messianic) reformation.

14. In the epistles of Peter, James, John, and Jude is anything mentioned concerning an ordinance of water baptism? No.

15. According to Scripture was the thief on the cross water-baptized after he was saved? No.

16. According to Scripture was Zaccheaus water-baptized after he was saved? No.

17. According to Scripture was the woman at the well water-baptized after she was saved? No.

18. Did Jesus water-baptize or tell anyone else to water-baptize any of the people whom He saved, as recorded in the Gospels? No.

19. How many times is it recorded in the New Testament that John the Baptizer came baptizing with water, but Jesus would baptize with the Holy Ghost? Six. (Mat. 3:11; Mk. 1:8; Lk. 3:16; Jn. 1:26, 31, 33; Acts 1:5; 11:16).

20. In all of Scripture, how many times is it recorded that someone was baptized with water in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost? None.

21. Did Jesus Himself really say, "John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost"? Yes (Acts 1:5).

22. Is there now two baptisms, water and Spirit? No. "There is...one baptism" (Eph. 4:5).

Epilogue

What does all this mean? It means that many Christians should forsake the false teaching that water baptism is the means of joining a local church or becoming a member of the universal Church. It means that many Christians should forsake the false doctrine that water baptism is necessary for salvation.

Many Christians should forsake the idea that water baptism replaced circumcision and that baptizing infants is part of a covenant with God for their salvation. Many Christians should change their identity from Baptist or Anabaptist to simply "Christian." Many Christians should forsake their demonic party spirit that the enemy has used to cause division among true brethren in Christ. (Of course, varied doctrines concerning water baptism is only one issue that causes division in the Church.) It means that many who profess to be Christians who teach that one is saved by being water baptized need to repent of their sins and turn to the Way, Jesus Christ (Jn. 14:6).

What will happen to many of those who accept the truth that water baptism was a shadow or type of a better, spiritual baptism into Christ? Some will be rejected by the established leaders and "religious experts" of the day just as Christians were rejected by the chief priests and rulers of the synagogue in the first century. Some will lose family and friends who are trusting in their water baptism for salvation (instead of trusting in Jesus Christ).

Variances in beliefs concerning water baptism may be greater than any other doctrine in the Bible. Like the Judaizers who said you need Christ and circumcision, many Christians (and those who profess to be Christians but never have been born again) today are saying, in essence, that the work Jesus did on the Cross is not enough. The enemy tries to diminish the glorious gift of eternal life and the Atonement of Christ by shedding His precious blood and dying for us.



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Posted : 3 Jan, 2022 02:58 PM

🙂💯👍 my pleasure bro david we know that if teddy bugs was hooked up to a polygraph he would trigger a 20.0 earthquake 📉



It's too bad dom_64 doesn't have enough discernment to see through teddy bugs and halo harry -- but while there is breath there is hope 🙂😉

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Dom_64

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Posted : 3 Jan, 2022 03:10 PM

I do have the discernment to know you have received the strong delusion sent from God. That is the reason you cannot believe the truths I posted.



WARNING(from Harry Bethel): Three of the most damnable lies believed by many true Christians and taught by many true-Christian "pastors"

and writers, are the pre-tribulation rapture, unconditional eternal security, and that Jesus loves true Christians unconditionally.

These doctrines of demons are clearly refuted from the Scriptures on this website.

The danger of believing these lies is that many true Christians, after realizing they were not raptured before the Great Tribulation,

believing Jesus loves them unconditionally and that they have unconditional eternal security,

they can take the Mark of the Beast so they can buy food, etc. for themselves and their family, and still go to heaven.

During the Great Tribulation, the main message of the two prophets (who are alive and well on earth today),

will be warning true Christians that if they take the Mark they will forfeit their salvation and be cast into the Lake of Fire.

Most true Christians have already been deluded by the "strong delusion" (KJV) sent by Jesus

because they refuse to love the Truth. (Jesus is the Truth, personified.)

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 3 Jan, 2022 03:40 PM

Halo Harry is becoming more like those old Confucius jokes remember? Here’s one, Confucius say: He who sit on tack feel better off😂😂😂😂



Compare confused Confucius to Halo Harry and Dom

QUOTE: WARNING(from Harry Bethel): Three of the most damnable lies believed by many true Christians and taught by many true-Christian "pastors" and writers, are the pre-tribulation rapture, unconditional eternal security, and that Jesus loves true Christians unconditionally.

These doctrines of demons are clearly refuted from the Scriptures on this website.



So ok

Here’s a Halo Harry joke. (True to life however)

Halo Harry say: TRUE CHRISTIANS believe damnable lies‼️‼️‼️‼️

And then Halo Harry proceeds to list these “damnable lies” that these “TRUE CHRISTIANS” believe‼️‼️

FOLKS YOU CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP >>>>IF YOU TRIED‼️‼️‼️‼️







Dom⁉️⁉️⁉️ If “TRUE CHRISTIANS” believe these things then FALSE CHRISTIANS must reject them‼️‼️‼️

Don’t you get it⁉️⁉️⁉️

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Posted : 3 Jan, 2022 03:43 PM

Fact checking. Let’s see.

Matthew 28 handily refutes the false teaching against water baptism.

That was easy Dom, any other questions?

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 3 Jan, 2022 03:54 PM

You may confess you’re a proven dupe for at least 2 false teachers now , the TeddyBug and Halo Harry.

Why don’t you prove me wrong by a simple quote. If the TeddyBug lie about me is correct, then why won’t the Bug or you post such a quote.

Dom, You’re easily deceived but don’t know it. That’s a characteristic of deceived people, they don’t know it. Look how EASILY the TeddyBug lie convinced you



BTW Dom, why are you not more transparent about your false teacher’s identity ⁉️

Why haven’t you answered my questions⁉️

Is Harry Bethel your false teachers real identity ⁉️⁉️

Why so secretive ⁉️

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Dom_64

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Posted : 3 Jan, 2022 04:18 PM

It's only true Christians who can become apostate, false Christians can't. Don't you get it David. It's only the ones who were in the faith that can all away from the faith.

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Posted : 3 Jan, 2022 10:30 PM

Great post Dom_64, I never really thought about it that way before! Seriously! So true and now you have embarrASSed tinyfaithdavid!



Shame on you!

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Posted : 3 Jan, 2022 10:50 PM

So CULTISTrsvp speaks for tinyfaithdavid and tfd does not correct him, that's fine - QUOTE - 'little david doesn't preach that we can continue to sin and be counted under righteousness by God'



REALLY??? So then the answer for the speechless tfd then.... If he does not teach that then those that go back to sinning are not counted under righteousness by' YHWH. Correct? So the OSAS doctrine is just another CULT doctrine obviously! Thanks for the admission for tinyfaithdavid until he gets his texting back in order, like that's possible!



Dom_64, actually its the old classic heresy like what was taught over 30 years ago in the 'baptist church' I was raised in and goes like this - YHWH only sees his Son's perfection in not sinning but now in us while we are still sinning this side of heaven! I kid you not but that is what they teach although they don't' admit it and try to weasel their way out of that doctrine! This is why the CULTS teach 'continual sinning perfectionism' because the more you sin the more Father YHWH sees you thru His Son that never sinned! GEESH!



Folks you just can't make this stuff up about these CULTS because I USE to belong to one!

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Posted : 3 Jan, 2022 10:59 PM

tinyfaithdaivd claims victory when he posts - QUOTE 'Fact checking. Let’s see. Matthew 28 handily refutes the false teaching against >>>water<<< baptism. That was easy Dom, any other questions?' end quote.



Problem is the text in Matthew 28 says ZELCH, ZERO, NADA wording of >>>WATER<<< baptism!!!???



So that was EASY to >>>NOT<<< be able to read in the text! Got an more hallucination's tinyfaithdavid???

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 4 Jan, 2022 07:08 AM

Sorry Bugs, you’re sounding like a poor loser😂😂😇😇

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