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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 27 Dec, 2021 02:14 PM

dear readers unfortunately we still have these legalists every Christmas season who refuse to turn their Bibles right side up when reading it



as the late great Dr Walter Martin founder of the Christian researcher institute an author of many apologetics books once said

" a text without its context is a pretext "



Here's another example of poor hermeneutics by dom_64 to attempt to demonstrate that Christmas trees are pagan and an abomination to God



" In Jeremiah 10:2-4 the Word of God says, "Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen....For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not " dom_64 ( the female teddy bugs )



β˜ΉοΈπŸ’―πŸ‘Ž FALSE ❗❗



πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ Now for the TRUTH



Jeremiah mocked the idolatry of Judah, especially as it imitated the idolatry of the surrounding nations. Similar passages mocking the idolatry of the heathen are found in Isaiah 40:18-20 and 44:9-20. Yet, it’s difficult to read this description and condemnation of an ancient pagan custom and πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰ not immediately think of the custom of the Christmas tree as practiced in the modern Christian world



ii. based on a passage like this a Christian would be convinced that they should not have a Christmas tree or even celebrate Christmas, then they should stand in that conviction. It is good to remember what Paul wrote: whatever is not from faith is sin (Romans 14:23).



iii. Nevertheless, there are many reasons to believe that despite some similarities, the differences are even greater and πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰ do not prohibit the modern custom of the Christmas tree.



Β· Jeremiah spoke regarding the customs of the Gentiles, and in the modern world πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰ the appropriate celebration of Christmas is an expression of belief in God and His Son, not a custom of unbelievers



Β· Jeremiah spoke of believers borrowing customs of unbelievers; in the modern world, when an unbeliever has a Christmas tree πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰ it is a case of unbelievers borrowing the customs of believers



Β· Jeremiah spoke of a tree regarded as an idol, and (properly understood) the modern Christmas tree is πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰ 🚫 NOT an idol. If for a family it is or becomes an idol, it should be discarded with.



Β· Jeremiah spoke to a time in history when trees were often directly connected with idolatry, either literal trees or their representations (Jeremiah 2:27)

Germany is credited with starting the Christmas tree tradition as we now know it in the 16th century when devout Christians brought decorated trees into their homes



πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺ does anybody know of anybody that's bowed down to a Christmas tree thereby committing idolatry ❓❓ of course not that's just plain SILLY πŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺ🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣



πŸ™‚πŸ˜‰ trying to use Jeremiah 10 as a pro theological argument to denounce Christmas trees as pagan practices makes as about as much sense as the Quakers who don't use electricity because they think in some way shape or form that modern technology is evil πŸ’‘πŸ™ˆπŸ™‰πŸ™Š



πŸ™‚πŸ™‚ a lot of us love quaker oats for breakfast in the morning πŸ₯£ and the good old electric powered microwave helps us do it and likewise with our Christmas trees that help us appreciate the birth of our Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ this time of year -- I'm sure most of you will agree πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 28 Dec, 2021 10:19 PM

WHAAAAAAA?

Ok I’ll grant you, he might not have been β€œborn in dirty old manger” BUT After His birth Mary laid Jesus in a manger! (Luke 2:7).

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 28 Dec, 2021 11:27 PM

Nobody is saying you have to lie to kids by telling them β€œSanta knows when you been bad or good!” ONLY GOD CAN DO THAT‼️‼️

Santa is really just an escapee from over-eaters anonymous who is out to prove fat people aren’t really fat if they can slide down a fireplace chimney with a bag of toys!!

Satan thought of carrying the bag of toys as a ruse just in case he got stuck going down a chimney, in that way he could blame getting stuck in the chimney on the bag of toys!!!

Santa once tried to make history by posing as the only sumo β€œred” wrestler. His signature uniform was a red night cap and mud boots but the gig flopped when his opponent stuffed him AND the boots into the night cap.

But being stuffed in a night cap gave Santa the idea that would later make him famousβ€”stuffing socks full of toy sumo wrestlers. Originally it was Santa’s way of getting back, not giving back

But as legend would have it, the myth expanded to include stuffing coal into dirty socks

Now you know the rest of the story

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 28 Dec, 2021 11:27 PM

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 09:55 AM

The bible tells us when Jesus was born as Mary got pregnant on the 6th month June, so how can she have a baby in December when it takes 9 months Luke 1:26? All the angels singing and what not was to signify the new King of the Jews. That Jesus who was born of Mary is dead and buried. The one that came out of the grave is the Jesus we are to attain the born again Jesus born of the spirit and not of the flesh Mary. It is a lie to say Jesus was born on the 25th of December and another lie to celebrate his birth as he is no longer here to be celebrated. We do not worship our great, great, grandfather's birthday as he is no longer here to be celebrated. Same thing with Jesus. A lie is a lie and all liars will burn in hell fire and brimstone Rev 21:8. Especially in this idolatrous time of year of drunkenness and fornication.

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 09:55 AM

The bible tells us when Jesus was born as Mary got pregnant on the 6th month June, so how can she have a baby in December when it takes 9 months Luke 1:26? All the angels singing and what not was to signify the new King of the Jews. That Jesus who was born of Mary is dead and buried. The one that came out of the grave is the Jesus we are to attain the born again Jesus born of the spirit of God his Father and not of the flesh Mary. It is a lie to say Jesus was born on the 25th of December and another lie to celebrate his birth as he is no longer here to be celebrated. We do not worship our great, great, grandfather's birthday as he is no longer here to be celebrated. Same thing with Jesus. A lie is a lie and all liars will burn in hell fire and brimstone Rev 21:8. Especially in this idolatrous time of year of drunkenness and fornication.

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 10:06 AM

That Jesus who was pit in a manger is no longer available, he died and was buried and we know no man after the flesh 2nd Cor 5:16-27. The one that came out of the grave who arose from the dead is the Jesus we seek through his words as they are spirit and life John 6:63. That Jesus who arose from the deaf full of holes no blood a dead man walking is the one we seek. The one born of Mary is dead buried and gone.

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 10:29 AM

Jesus had to be born in order to later die for the sins of mankind.



Jesus birth was very important to God's plan for salvation.



Yes Believers celebrate Jesus Christ birth.

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 10:52 AM

How can we celebrate his birth as Jesus was always he came down from above, there is no date for him. Jesus was in the old testament as the Son of God such as Daniel 3:25 or Habakkuk 3:3 as the Holy One.

The prophets of old knew God had a Son. From Abraham to Malichi. They called him the Son of God or the Holy One. Not one prophet ever seen God's face not even Moses. They seen his Son Jesus. They all heard God's word. Looks like you got it all backwards. In Genesus 1:36 let us is plural as God was talking to somebody and it wasn't Lucifer. God was talking to his Son Jesus. My bible says God and Father of Jesus created all things by Jesus Christ and not for himself.



The Jesus you are seeking after the one born of Mary after the flesh is no longer available, we have to get the one born of God from the womb of the grave who spoke words of spirit and life John 6:63.

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 10:59 AM

The bible days "Learn not!!!" Two key words in Jeremiah 10 which means, "Don't do" as the tree is an abomination. Deutronomey 7:6 tells us not to bring an abomination into your house or anything like it plastic or wax trees etc. The bible tells us to flee from idolatry 1st Cor 10:14. In Ezekiel 20:39 we are told not to pollute God's name by giving gifts under idols trees.



Deutronomey 7:26] Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.



Ezekiel 20:39] As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols.

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πŸ™‚πŸ’―πŸ‘ let's fix this once and for all in regards to the Christmas tree being prohibited by Jeremiah 10
Posted : 29 Dec, 2021 11:16 AM

None of the apostles celebrated the birth, they were celebrating his death as the apostle Paul learned to show the death and not the birth. No salvation in the birth, the new testament and salvation begins at the death and not the birth. Jesus walking the face of the earth was still the old testament the one who died and arose from the dead marks the beginning of the new. Hebrews 9 tells us this. Salvation comes from the words of the bible after Jesus' death the day of Pentecost the Holy Ghost came down with words. The Gospel of Christ is made up of what? Words. Those words are the power man is in need of Romans 1:16 and not the birth of Jesus as he is no longer here 2nd Cor 5:16-17.



Hebrews 9:13] For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

[14] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

[15] And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

[16] For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

[17] For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

[18] Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

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