Dave, you posted this as part of your last answer.
These things are not explained in the Bible because they are UN-important!!
Quiz: Spoken like a true calvanist, when confronted with with matters contained in the Scriptures.
1. The 501C3 tax exempt BUSINESS called 'church' cannot be found anywhere within the Scriptures both Old and New Covenant.
Thus that type of religious system is not of GOD Almighty,but an invention of man.
The Messiah said that believers in Him should pay taxes when required, but the 'church' system would rather listen to the state a.k.a. Ceasar by not paying taxes,thus the state is in authority over the 'church', not Messiah.
Was it necessary for the 'church' system to WILLING take the tax exemption,no.
In America, there is a piece of paper known as the Constitution, this guarantees certain groups of people to not have to pay taxes, thus they are already TAX EXEMPT.
Separation of BELIEVERS and state.
The 'church' system is setup as a BUSINESS, in order to fulfill the requirements of the tax exemption status in the IRS 501C3 tax regulations.
This regulation allows the 'church' system to SUE,buy property, and can also be SUED.
The tax exempt status can be usws by the LBGTQRSTUVWXYZ homosexual groups to sue the 'church' system for not HIRING homosexual people that have their government required certificates from government approved seminaries a.k.a CEMETARIES,hehe.
Now you say that is not a big deal, yet Yashua had known this would happen, that is why He said that believers in Him should pay taxes.
Where were the 'church' system leaders when the Homosexual bill was passed by Obama, there was not a peep heard from them, not even today.
Matthew 17 verses 24-27
24 After they had arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma taxd came to Peter and asked, “Does your Teacher pay the two drachmas?”
25“Yes,” he answered.
When Peter entered the house, Jesus preempted him. “What do you think, Simon?” He asked. “From whom do the kings of the earth collect customs and taxes: from their own sons, or from others?”
26 “From others,” Peter answered.
“Then the sons are exempt,” Jesus declared.
27 “But so that we may not offend them, go to the sea, cast a hook, and take the first fish you catch. When you open its mouth, you will find a four-drachma coin. Take it and give it to them for My tax and yours.”
Paul also writes that believers are to pay taxes when required.
Romans 13 verses 5-7
5. Therefore it is necessary to submit to authority, not only to avoid punishment, but also as a matter of conscience.
6. This is also why you pay taxes. For the authorities are God’s servants, who devote themselves to their work.
7. Pay everyone what you owe him: taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.
Later,I will address the second question that you believe is not important as well.
Quiz, I realize you desperately envy the distinction of an esteemed theological leader.
The trouble is, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about when you attempt to speak theologically or historically.
For one thing, Jesus and his disciples where not under the U.S. Constitution, they were primarily under the authority of Roman and secondly the Jewish religious leaders.
As for Churches in this country, they have a serious responsibility and privilege to speak God’s word. All Christian churches have a duty to speak out for God when they speak against the world’s beloved sin. The church has a God given duty to speak out even if that means losing their tax status with the IRS.
But many churches hide behind their tax status as an excuse for NOT speaking up!! That’s been a constant burr under my saddle because some churches just don’t wanna OFFEND their abortion (child sacrificing) supporting congregants.
But to this date, unless I’ve missed something, I no aware of any church losing it’s tax status by speaking out against certain political leaders—the liberal churches do that ALL the time.
I think the Quiz would be better served if he spoke out against churches hiding behind their IRS tax exemption in order to avoid their God given responsibilities rather than painting all churches with his judgmental broad brush.
The Quiz gets mad when he’s called to account and accuses those of calling him out as being judgmental but the Quiz has self-appointed himself as the judge over all churches
Dave, i happen to be well aware of the history and conditions Messiah had lived under.
Dave are you saying that Messiah would have told the believers that it was okay to take Ceasars offer of tax exemption, had He been living during our time and living in America.
2. Your omniscience is cloudy by calvanism, as i do not envy anyone, or any position in this life.
3. Culture does not dictate the believers, rather they live according to the Word of Yahovah.
4. Dave, you seem to believe the 'church' /BUSINESS was commissioned by Yashua to proclaim the truth in His Word.
The 'church' / Business has usurped the position of the individual believer, as it is the individual believer that is commissioned and empowered ofthe Holy Spirit to proclaim the Gospel, even when they meet together.
Dave, when was the last time the self appointed person called pastor allowed you to teach, or to prophesy, or to speak in tongues and interpret.
They probably say, We do not do that here, we do 'church' different.
QUIZNOS: Dave are you saying that Messiah would have told the believers that it was okay to take Ceasars offer of tax exemption, had He been living during our time and living in America.
LITTLEDAVID: Yes, because God’s law is not violated by a tax exemption. BTW Quiz, Where did you find, “Thou shalt not tax exempt”, in the law of God or in the law of the Messiah⁉️
QUIZNOS: 2. Your omniscience is cloudy by calvanism, as i do not envy anyone, or any position in this life.
LITTLEDAVID: Once again, as I explained previously, omniscience isn’t necessary to deduce your carnal ambitions. Anyone who self-appoints himself as a judge over the bride of Christ is guilty of pride and obviously desires power. Furthermore, it’s hardly necessary to appeal to Calvinism as an aid identifying your error.
QUIZNOS: 3. Culture does not dictate the believers, rather they live according to the Word of Yahovah.
LITTLEDAVID: Your phrase is kinda incoherent.
QUIZNOS: 4. Dave, you seem to believe the 'church' /BUSINESS was commissioned by Yashua to proclaim the truth in His Word.
LITTLEDAVID: Please Quote me having said that.
QUIZNOS: The 'church' / Business has usurped the position of the individual believer, as it is the individual believer that is commissioned and empowered ofthe Holy Spirit to proclaim the Gospel, even when they meet together.
LITTLEDAVID: I think you’re confusing the individual with the body of Christ because the real church (body of Christ) consists of a body of individuals.
QUIZNOS: Dave, when was the last time the self appointed person called pastor allowed you to teach, or to prophesy, or to speak in tongues and interpret.
LITTLEDAVID: So glad you asked, that actually happened today‼️As for tongues, I hope you are appropriately defining the biblical term for languages. The Bible doesn’t condone gibberish because gibberish is not a language. Non-language can’t be understood or interpreted.
QUIZNOS: They probably say, We do not do that here, we do 'church' different.
LITTLEDAVID: Oh wow!! The Quiznos tries to imitate God’s omniscience but fails—again!!
This is hilarious dear readers! Davey the self appointed 'theological' laddy boy says about Quiznos challenge to him - 'That’s gonna be way too easy. Sorry' and then states - 'The issues you are so very obsessed with, even to the point a psychotic fixation, are completely non-issues.' and also CULTLY states - 'These things are not explained in the Bible because they are UN-important!!'
Yup you heard it right Quiz and dear readers, according to the reasoning and logic of globe head Davey boy, you can consume drugs like heroin, meth, cocaine, caffeine etc etc >>>because<<< 'these things are not explained in the Bible because they are UN-important!!' end quote.
So there you have it friends, its not in the OT nor the NT so have at it! More so tinyfaithdavid because he claims YOU WILL commit these obvious sins this side of heaven, that is by his 'theological' teaching of continual sinning perfectionism!
So PLEASE readers don't instruct anyone not to take those drugs, >>>because<<< according to globe head Davey boy, you would then be - 'very obsessed with, even to the point a psychotic fixation, (these things) are completely non-issues' in the Bible, OK???
So has tinydavid answered the challenge of Quiznos? NOPE! Cannot incompetent tinyfaithdavid understand the 'church', if its the TRUE Church that is, keep separate Church and ROME (the states) and he is obviously clueless to modern CULTS calling themselves the 'church' when they invite ROME to regulate them and give them discounts like 501C3 Tax exempt, UNLESS of course they claim obviously to be a 'Business' (as Quiz correctly states) >>> and<<< a so called 'church'!!! ROME (and the devil) is alive and well in the CULT 'churches', is he not???
Ummm and Ooooh I almost forgot,
Seriously the only thing 'Sorry' about globe head Davey boy, is his reasoning and logic skills in thinking and the fact that his 'duck bill hat' will not stay on his spinning, wobbling, tilting globe/sphere head, much like his globe/sphere earth model he cannot prove from the Bible!!! LMBO!