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What is love, what is grace, what is the law, what is circumcision, what justifies us?
Posted : 18 Mar, 2021 01:15 AM

We could not be justified by the law of Moses, as the law is not of faith, but the despisers are to believe in the work which the Son of God declares to us..





Acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

40 Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;

41 Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.







Those same ungodly men, turn the grace of God into lasciviousness, denying the Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ..





Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.





The purified in Christ have all things purified( justified in Christ) but the unbelieving defiled have nothing purified in Christ, they only pretend to believe in God, but in works thewy deny Him, being disobedient and unto every good work reprobate ( without morals)..





Titus 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.







Circumcision is then not the one of the law outwardly, as these transgressed the law, ( with no law written in the heart/new covenant of Christ) and circumcision is that of the heart in the Spirit of Christ, to fulfil the law not transgress as the previous faulty covenant which thewy continued not in, and the circumcision is in now through Christ, putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ.





Romans 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?

28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.





Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:









The law was weak then, now we are free from that previous way of the law to sin and have death, now we have the righteousness of the law fulfilled in us, to not walk after the flesh...





Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.







Love is what is shed into our hearts through faith in the love of Christ, who we saw shows the way of no adultery, no killing, no stealing, no bearing false witness, no coveting, but loving by laying our lives down, as love works no ill and fulfils that nlaw of righteousness..





Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.







So by love the disciples of Christ serve one another, and being led of the Spirit frees us from that law of sinning and death( as man cannot be justified that previous covenant without the law written in the heart) and they who do such things as are the works of the flesh, shall not inherit the Kingdom of God..







Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.





Jesus testifying against those works that are not love as per Romans 13:





Adultery:





Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.





Not kill:



Matthew 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.



Not steal:



John 12:6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.





Not bear false witness:



Matthew 26:60 But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses,





Not covet:



Luke 16:14 And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.





Love your neighbour as yourself:





John 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.





Even the example of Abraham ends on telling us how justification came by works, perfecting the faith, and that is justification:





James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

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What is love, what is grace, what is the law, what is circumcision, what justifies us?
Posted : 21 Mar, 2021 11:30 AM

So David you hit the post reply green button, like a replay button three times to someone to make your point more clear? How childish!



And further more once again you do not provide ANY evidence of supposedly Adam's wrong doing in 'lying' nor your other unfounded accusations??? If your unrighteous in your claims in living it David, then why is it judging when you admit it openly???



David wake up in your post that is directed to the lost claiming they have NEVER sinned! Got it? - 1 John 1:10. "For if we say we have not (or ever ) sinned, we make Him a liar and the WORD (The EVERLASTING FATHER the Messiah) is NOT in us."



David! Adam is NOT calling YHWH a liar, YOU ARE by NOT having His WORD in you, able to overcome your sins as the Messiah did by example to us! WAKEUP David, you are claiming a POWERLESS Father YHWH that kept Himself, that is His 'Son' in the flesh from sinning!

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What is love, what is grace, what is the law, what is circumcision, what justifies us?
Posted : 21 Mar, 2021 11:40 AM

David posts - 'Jesus forgives not only our “past” sins but also our present and future sins.'



David, if we indeed repented (turned away) from our past sins, then does it NOT makes sense to you that you would need to likewise repent (turned away) of your 'present and future sins' should you elect to NOT want to be a 'saint' any longer!? Are you a cathoholic David, as you also teach continual mass???



Is this where you get your heresy teaching of 'continual sinning perfectionism' ???

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What is love, what is grace, what is the law, what is circumcision, what justifies us?
Posted : 21 Mar, 2021 02:24 PM

Flat Earth Teddy, you have more in common with Roman Catholic teaching than I do. RC doctrine teaches almost the same as you. They teach the Holy Spirit AND you must work together in order to secure your salvation.

One of the consequences of ignorantly teaching your own brand of false doctrine is the dangerous overlap you share with other methods of false teachings and their doctrines that are like yours

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