Perfectionism heretics falsely believe being “free from sin” means we never sin anymore. So do we become perfect after salvation?
Question: "What does it mean to be free from sin?"
Answer: Proverbs 20:9 asks the question "Who can say, 'I have cleansed my heart; I am pure and free from sin'?" (NLT). We can all identify with that. If we are honest with ourselves, we know we still sin. So why does Romans 6:18 say, "You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness"? Is this a contradiction?
Sin can be defined as "any thought, action, or attitude that falls short of God’s holiness" (Romans 3:23). Sin has many layers. There are specific actions or thoughts which are sinful. Murder, adultery, and theft are sins (Exodus 20:1–17). Even the desire to commit murder, adultery, and theft are sins (Matthew 5:21, 28). But sin goes deeper than that. We commit sins because we are sinners. Since Adam first sinned in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 2:17; 3:17–19), every person born has inherited a sin nature from him (Psalm 51:5; Romans 3:23; 5:12). We cannot help but sin because it is our nature to do so. A bird does not have to be taught how to build a nest and keep her eggs warm. It is her nature to do so. A child does not have to be taught to be selfish and demanding. That comes naturally.
However, we were not created to be sinful. We were designed by God in His own image (Genesis 1:27). Humanity is His masterpiece (Ephesians 2:10; Psalm 8:4–6). We were designed to live in fellowship with our Creator. But because of sin, we cannot enter His presence (Habakkuk 1:13). When Jesus died on the cross, He took upon Himself all the sin of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21; 1 John 2:2). By taking the punishment for our sin, He cancelled the debt that each of us owes God (Colossians 2:14). He also reversed the curse of our old natures, which keeps us enslaved to sinful passions and desires (Galatians 3:10, 13). Before a person meets Christ, he or she is enslaved by that sin nature (Romans 7:25; 2 Peter 2:19). At the moment of conversion, we are given a new nature that has been freed from sin (Romans 6:18; 8:2). The entire chapter of Romans 6 explains this in detail. Verse 14 says, "For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace."
To be free from sin means that those who have made Jesus the Lord of their lives are no longer enslaved by sin. We have the power, through the Holy Spirit, to live victoriously over sin (1 Corinthians 15:56–67; Romans 8:37). Just like we once followed fleshly desires, those who are "in Christ Jesus" now follow the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:14; Galatians 5:24). Because we live in a fallen world and are still fleshly creatures, we will still sin (1 John 1:9; 2:1; Romans 7:21–22). But those who follow Christ do not make sin a lifestyle choice (1 John 2:1–6; 3:6–10; Romans 6:2).
Those who have been born again (John 3:3) have received a new nature. Whereas the old nature drew us toward self-pleasure, the new nature tugs us toward holiness (2 Corinthians 5:17). To be free from sin means it no longer wields the power it once did. The stranglehold of selfishness, greed, and lust has been broken. Freedom from sin allows us to offer ourselves as willing slaves of the Lord Jesus Christ, who continues to work in us to make us more like Him (Romans 6:18; 8:29; Philippians 2:13).
So one thing was answered for you guys, how the light which is in us is really darkness, as it is satan.
An innocent sin, or a guilty sin ?
In Jesus is no sin. Why do we need to be told that here in 1 John 3?
No sin of any kind in Christ, neither guilty nor ignorant.
We are told about Jesus as that is what our path is, to have Christ in us.
Then we understand, when in Christ. anyone who commits sin, ( no sin of any kind in Christ when in us ) then the one commiting any kind of sin is transgressing the law)
Sorry to say for all, but no sin, neither ignorant nor on purpose is part of keeping the law of Christ, that is not the Gospel of Christ...
1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
Also as it seems to be popping up, a person choosing to sin.
A person before guided by God, chooses to sin, they have no belief in Christ.
Then whenever God will guide a person, they believe in their heart unto righteousness. Romans 10:10.
When you believe in unrighteousness, you do no righteousness, when you believe in righteousness, you do no unrighteousness.
Romans 6 shows clear enough how serving sin ( the devil) you cannot do any righteousness at all.
likewise being made free from the devil ( free from sin) the fruit is holiness (righteousness as you no longer produce any unrighteousness/unholiness)
This continues in 1 John 3:10, as anyone can understand the simplicity and honesty, how when we do not do righteousness, then we must be doing unrighteousness ?
Well the testimony there for all to believe is, then that person who does unrighteousness is not of God, as they do not love their brother and to be of God is to love, for God is ONLY LOVE....
Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
Romans 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
All unrighteousness is sin, there is no permitted sin, as the ones born of God do neither ignorant or wilful sins. But the sin not unto death is the time we have for advocacy, as told, why will you die ?
1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Why will iniquity be the ruin of us, we have to turn from all iniquity, that is repenting, as repenting without turning is never repenting, it is dying.
Ezekiel 18:30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord God. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.
31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord God: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.
Then bekief in the righteousnes of Christ gives us that new heart and Spirit, that is the blessing of Christ turning us away from our vain iniquities..
Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
Adam can’t debate the articles main thrust nor can he deny the sinful human nature we all possess even after salvation. So Adam instead raises false accusations against those who don’t fall for his heretical sinless perfectionism.
Adam falsely accuses those who’ve repented and work hard to live a holy life of “choosing to sin”.
But no one who truly loves God and wants to obey him, continues to “choose to sin” in the careless disregard of an unbeliever.
Holy born again believers earnestly want to obey God but find themselves falling short. Nothing could be more frustrating to the believer than this as Paul noted in Romans 7.
The difference between Adam and a True Believer is that a true believer doesn’t lower the standard of God’s righteousness and holy laws.
A heretical sinless perfectionism advocate, like Adam, must lower the level of God holiness. Adam must lower the level of God’s holiness to make himself appear sinless and perfect.
Hence the difference between a sinless perfectionism heretic and a true believer.
A true believer recognizes the true standard of God’s holiness and righteousness and doesn’t try lower that exceedingly high standard.
The ONLY ONE WHO IS TRULY SINLESS AND PERFECT, IS JESUS HIMSELF
Adam can’t debate the articles main thrust nor can he deny the sinful human nature we all possess even after salvation. So Adam instead raises false accusations against those who don’t fall for his heretical sinless perfectionism.
Adam falsely accuses those who’ve repented and work hard to live a holy life of “choosing to sin”.
But no one who truly loves God and wants to obey him, continues to “choose to sin” in the careless disregard of an unbeliever.
Holy born again believers earnestly want to obey God but find themselves falling short. Nothing could be more frustrating to the believer than this as Paul noted in Romans 7.
The difference between Adam and a True Believer is that a true believer doesn’t lower the standard of God’s righteousness and holy laws.
A heretical sinless perfectionism advocate, like Adam, must lower the level of God holiness. Adam must lower the level of God’s holiness to make himself appear sinless and perfect.
Hence the difference between a sinless perfectionism heretic and a true believer.
A true believer recognizes the true standard of God’s holiness and righteousness and doesn’t try lower that exceedingly high standard.
The ONLY ONE WHO IS TRULY SINLESS AND PERFECT, IS JESUS HIMSELF