Quiz posts - Romans 8:1 ' There is no condemnation to those that are in Yahshua ( by faith, not by works )'
Its interesting that you now quote ONLY a singular verse and yet not get on yourself as posting out of context!!!
But no matter I will make the best of it as 'there is NOOOOO condemnation (death) to those that are in Yah'shua by FAITH' DAILY because WHEN they have the FAITH OF HIM *and not just FAITH IN HIM they are not sinning! Right? Wake up dude to FULL CONTEXT of subject to the ENTIRE Bible on the subject dude!
teamwork again from the dragon the beast and the false prophet.
moonlight name, says when the person sins they will be disciplined.
Yet as usual the devil plays trickery and not manifested and with the true light shining.
You would expect a sincere person to turn around and thank you, for correcting their cheating in Gods name, but they say you are wrong. So be it.
Continuing down in Hebrews 12, a different story emerges. The chastened of the Lord yield the fruit of righteousness.
Then that person follows peace with all men and holiness, or they never will see the Lord.
Many fail the grace of God, being a fornicator or profane person, means as Esau, they will find no place of repentance..
Hebrews 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
quiznos in the circle of conspiracy with the name moonlight (littledavid when they feel like it) has made a "question" which is revealed by Gods word as perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds.
quiznos says no sentencing goes on believers of Christ, as Christ was sentenced already.
quiznoslittledavid are masters of complaining and then doing the wrong they constantly say you are doing, hypocrites cannot play fair :)
quiznos writes in his full "context"
"Romans 8 verse 1
There is no condemnation to those that are in Yahshua ( by faith, not by works )"
Returning what quiznos took out, explaining what he left half mentioned, and answering what he wished the bible said.
Those in Christ Jesus avoid condemnation, through the Spirit.
The life Jesus gave (through His death and rising again) made us free from the law of sin and just death) no life again in the quiznos book)
God sent the Son to condemn sin in our flesh, so the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in us when the Spirit is in us if we have believed in Christ..
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
as for faith and no works, Jesus does all by faith, and if He did nothing ( as per quiznoslittledavid reasoning) then there would be nothing to believe in, and if are annointed with the Holy Ghost and with power we also do no works according to the deceiver..
Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
2 Thessalonians 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, AND THE WORK OF FAITH WITH POWER
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Quiznos,
This part of that verse is not in the earlier manuscripts.
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
That is from verse 4.
Now to the 2 Thesslonians chapter 1 verse 11, you purposely left off verse 12 in order to decieve yourself and others reading your deceitful works.
Now the entire context starts in verse 5
5 All this is clear evidence of God’s righteous judgment. And so you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. 6 After all, it is only right for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to grant relief to you who are oppressed and to us as well. This will take place when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels 8 in blazing fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, separated from the presence of the Lord and the glory of His might, 10 on the day He comes to be glorified in His saints and regarded with wonder by all who have believed, including you who have believed our testimony.
11To this end, we always pray for you, that our God will count you worthy of His calling, and that He will powerfully fulfill your every good desire and work of faith, 12 so that the name of our Lord Jesus will be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Myself and Dave have never disputed that a person is to be under all that Messiah had taught.
We have asked you and hugs questions and the two of you act like children, having your fits of anger, name calling, accusing believers of being false teachers, and even condemning them.
Dave and i want to know what you and hugs believe the BIBLICAL Gospel of Salvation is.
We do not need walls of scripture as the two of you seem to believe a person needs to repent of all of their sin to be saved, and if a person sins after that then they need to be saved again, and again and again.
But no matter I will make the best of it as 'there is NOOOOO condemnation (death) to those that are in Yah'shua by FAITH' DAILY because WHEN they have the FAITH OF HIM *and not just FAITH IN HIM they are not sinning! Right? Wake up dude to FULL CONTEXT of subject to the ENTIRE Bible on the subject dude!
Quiznos:
Hugs, where do you get this ' daily faith from, certainly not the Scriptures.
Hugs a person is called to have faith in Messiah, that is all that is necssary for a person to be saved.
Where are you getting that Messiah needed faith to not sin, i see you posted that on another subject.
I cannot split the screen here to find that.
Messiah did not need faith to not sin, He did not have a sinful nature as man has, that is why He could not sin.
"11To this end, we always pray for you, that our God will count you worthy of His calling, and that He will powerfully fulfill your every good desire and work of faith, 12 so that the name of our Lord Jesus will be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Myself and Dave have never disputed that a person is to be under all that Messiah had taught."
Under all the Messiah revealed from Heaven is to pray always to be accounted worthy to stand before the son of man as you part included and don't even know what you are including, but thanks for including it anyway..
Luke 21:34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
"No man is completely sinless and never will be in his Flesh.
I don't think any of my Post actually say that.
You must be born again. (John 3 chapter.)"
BORN OF THE SPIRIT does whats of the spirit, all righteousness, no unrighteousness, born of the flesh does whats flesh, all sinning, no righteousness,
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
"Messiah did not need faith to not sin, He did not have a sinful nature as man has, that is why He could not sin."
Man born of the of blood and the will of the flesh have that sin nature.
The devils reasoning is that there is no difference and no distinction to those now born of God.
But those born of God are new, and all old is passed away..
John 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
