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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 24 Nov, 2020 02:35 AM

The world has the scriptures, the testimonies God gave to Israel, as example of going about to establish their own righteousness and not submitting to the righteousness that is of Christ..



Romans 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.



God testified in Joel, He swill call the remnant of Israel, and they will call on the name of the Lord for deliverance.



In Isaiah God testifies, Israel swears by the name of the Lord, but not in truth nor in righteousness..



Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.



Isaiah 48:1 Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of the Lord, and make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth, nor in righteousness.





Then all was done, deliverance from death, as God raised Christ the only Son from the dead, and the heart of the remnant believes unto righteousness and now make mention of the Lord in truth and in righteousness...





Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.





They can only call on the name of the Lord when they have believed...



Romans 19:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?





But who had believed the report ? Not all obeyed the Gospel of Christ.



Faith comes by hearing by Gods word, God is the opener of the ear through His word of Spirit and truth..



Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.





Israel is described as a gainsaying disobedient people. The people seek the Lord when He has not called them.



God testifies how the people who sought not the Lord found Him, as He found His own sheep..



Romans 10:20 But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

21 But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.



Ezekiel 34:11 For thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.







Again Israel is described by God, to be given the pleasant land, but they obeyed not the voice of God, they did nothing of all that He commanded them to do, and evil came on them for that...



Jeremiah 32:23 And they came in, and possessed it; but they obeyed not thy voice, neither walked in thy law; they have done nothing of all that thou commandedst them to do: therefore thou hast caused all this evil to come upon them:





Israel did only evil before the Lord, provoking the Lord to anger through the work of their hands.



God taught them and thy did not listen to Him to receive instruction, but heard themselves and the false prophets also doing evil..





Jeremiah 32:30 For the children of Israel and the children of Judah have only done evil before me from their youth: for the children of Israel have only provoked me to anger with the work of their hands, saith the Lord.

31 For this city hath been to me as a provocation of mine anger and of my fury from the day that they built it even unto this day; that I should remove it from before my face,

32 Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

33 And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction.





God gathers the people from all the places they were gone (as sheep scattered) then God gives them one heart and all one way, to fear God for ever, for their good, and makes an everlasting covenant, to put His fear into the heart to not depart from God..



Jeremiah 32:37 Behold, I will gather them out of all countries, whither I have driven them in mine anger, and in my fury, and in great wrath; and I will bring them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely:

38 And they shall be my people, and I will be their God:

39 And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them:

40 And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.





Christ reveals who the Pharisees and scribes are.



The Pharisees say the words, but they do them not.



The Pharisee gives many things grievous to be borne, and touch none of the commandments with one of their fingers.



The Pharisee does works, but all falsely to have glory of men, flatterers.



The Pharisee is lifted up in pride.



The Pharisee does not know the love of God, keeping the commandments of God and they are not grievous..



Matthew 23:2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.



1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.





Jude exhorts all to contend for the faith, as ungodly men began turning the grace of God into lasciviousness, denying Christ.



The Lord once saved Israel out of the land of Egypt, and afterwards destroyed them all who did not believe in God.



Sodom after fornication and strange flesh are the example suffering vengeance of eternal fire.



The ungodly fornicators defile the flesh and also speak evil of dignities..





Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.





Again Israel ate the spiritual meat and drink, of the Rock of Christ.



God was not pleased with them, and these are our examples, to not lust after evil things as they lusted.



To not be idolaters as the people did sit to eat and drink and then rise to play.



Israel did commit fornication, and thousands were fallen dead.



They tempted Christ, who is God, serpents destroyed them.



Murmuring received destruction from the destroyer.



These are examples, to be admonished by them, we FALL by not taking heed.



God lets all temptations have a way out, and we are exhorted again, to flee from idolatry and not rise up to play and the people FELL



1 Corinthians 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.

8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and FELL in one day three and twenty thousand.

9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.

10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL.

13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 26 Nov, 2020 12:10 PM

This is not an answer for mockers as they hate the WORD when they excuse their EVIL:



John 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.





Process for you is to not be dead to sin, to be alive to sin, which is anti scripture:





THE OLD MAN  IS CRUCIFIED WITH HIM, DESTROYING THE BODY OF SIN, TO NOT SERVE SATAN AND SIN ANY MORE, TO BE DEAD IS FREED FROM SIN..



Romans 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.





Unless born again we are nothing to do with Christ, and when born of God all old is passed away, that is the process as described:



2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.



1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.



1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.



1 John 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God





1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.



1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.





Doing unrighteousness is not born of God, that is told when we are not born of God, so that's your confession.



Also those born of God love their brother, we see there is no process in that, those who love work no ill to their neighbour, so you confess you have no love of Christ either, or explain how you oppose every testimony of born again, of loving the neighbour, of being dead to sin, a new creature and new man and new plant of righteousness.



The love written in the heart is not a process, God writes it or He does not, in your confession it is not written..



Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)



Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.



Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.





"daily confession of sin, This is what it means in Philippians 1:6 “...being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”



That idea of yours is not a good work, its you still in your evil work. The good work began is, dead to sin, alive to righteousness, loving the neighbour, the law righteously fulfilled in us, that is working no ill to neighbour fulfils, as Gods love is shed in our heart, and born of God sins not, becuse all old is passed away and all is new and of Christ, and your confessions are, you do none of the ways and yet your own mouth is better than the WORD of God somehow



That is the new, your old sins are not the new way..



2 Peter 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 26 Nov, 2020 12:19 PM

Adam, once again, you misunderstand scripture. What is “passed away” is not teaching sinless perfectionism. If that were the case, why do you still keep sinning???

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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 26 Nov, 2020 12:22 PM

yes you do not believe Christ died to destroy the works of the devil, as they are your current works..



1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 08:23 AM

Adam, you keep twisting the word of God and keep changing the meaning and context of scripture.

In this latest case, you’ve changed the original context of scripture by creating your own false context for the words “destroying the devil’s work”.

You keep trying to make scripture fit your preconceived heretical notions of sinless perfectionism.

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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:16 AM

quizlittle asks: "Adam, is a person clean by the blood of the lamb, and the Word of GOD Almighty, or by being kept away from sin.



One is the works of man, the other the Grace and Mercy of GOD Almighty"



Conversion of the Holy Ghost ( the question and topic) has all the scriptures showing through the blood of the Lamb, we are converted ( as seen in Peter) to be strengthened to be kept from the works of satan.



Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.



Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.



This is the grace and WORK OF GOD..



2 Corinthians 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.



Ephesians 3:7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.



Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.



Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:21 AM

Adam, not only do your posts reveal your ignorance but your responses do as well

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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:31 AM

Acts 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.



Acts 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:34 AM

Adam, those good men where falsely accused but when people say that you are ignorant, it’s the truth

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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:39 AM

John and Peter taught to the less ignorant:







John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.



1 Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.



1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.



1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.



1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.



1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.



Revelation 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

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Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he FALL
Posted : 28 Nov, 2020 09:18 AM

Adam, I see you ignore the correct translation of the word “perfect” I showed you

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