quiznos: "The Messiah was not born with sinful flesh, He did not have a SINFUL nature,as everyone that is born of a woman."
quiznos cannot reverse his words now, we notice how the Messiah was born, to be without a sinful nature as everyone born of a woman has a sinful nature.
The deceivers are deceived. To believe in the name of Christ is this:
To be...."born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God"
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
little: "Flat Teddy, Jesus came in the “likeness” not in the sameness of sinful man!"
Again this same or different person cannot undo their words. Likeness is not sameness. Something that is like what others have, is not the same.
The deceiver thinks the Holy Apostles of the Lord walked according to the flesh.
They answer the deceiver.."though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh"
2 Corinthians 10:2 But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
Christ clarifies for the deceived spirit, how Jesus not only does as they say, He also makes us the very same..
Here are the deceived: "That which is born of the flesh is flesh"
Here are the ones not the same as the deceived: "that which is born of the Spirit is spirit"
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Non deceived: " who walk not after the flesh"
Non deceived walk "but after the Spirit"
The deceived are in the flesh, as born of a woman are all in sinful nature.
But the non deceived are again this: "But ye are not in the flesh"
As the non deceived re now this: "but in the Spirit"
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The deceived are this: "born after the flesh "
The non deceived are this however: "born after the Spirit"
Galatians 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Philippians 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Christ without sinful nature is this way: "being put to death in the flesh"
Then Christ shows this is His way:" quickened by the Spirit:"
This is the way for non deceived only:" in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ"
To be: "quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;"
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
This is what Christ did for His sheep:
"you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh"
"gospel preached also to them that are dead"
" that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."
The deceived cannot see how we were judged according to men in the flesh (Christ in the flesh for this purpose) but live according to God in the Spirit..
1 Peter 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
Then we understand the deceived are this: "The first man is of the earth, earthy"
The non deceived then are this: "the second man is the Lord from heaven"
The deceived have this sin nature: "As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy"
The non deceived are not born of the flesh, they are born of this: "and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly"
The deceiver is told this: "that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. "
The deceived is this: "corruptible seed"
The non deceived has become this: "Being born again incorruptible"
"the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible,"
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1 Peter 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
The deceived is this: "EARTHLY, SENSUAL, DEVILISH"
The deceived has this:" CONFUSION and EVERY EVIL WORK"
James 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is EARTHLY, SENSUAL, DEVILISH
16 For where envying and strife is, there is CONFUSION and EVERY EVIL WORK.
