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Moonlight7

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Posted : 14 Nov, 2020 01:53 PM

I do believe that good works come after knowing Jesus Christ as Savior.



Faith comes first in the Savior.



reference James 2 chapter



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Moonlight7

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Posted : 15 Nov, 2020 12:28 PM

Wisdom is something you don't have Adam.



It's evident by your Walls of scripture to prove your points.

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 15 Nov, 2020 12:30 PM

Any man that thinks he's Sinless, needs to seek Jesus.

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Posted : 16 Nov, 2020 11:18 AM

Moonlight,

Amen! Ephesians 2:8-10 are clear. salvation comes first and good works come after.

  For by grace you have been are saved , through faith; and that not out of yourselves; it is God's gift: 

not out of works, that no one might boast. 

For we are his workmanship, having been created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. 



Contrary to what so many people say, there is no mingling of the two.

Rom 11:6  And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. 



Thank you for your strong stand on the truth of salvation!

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 16 Nov, 2020 11:32 AM

Abounding your welcome!



I'm Definitely not Sinless but believe in repentance.

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Posted : 17 Nov, 2020 03:20 AM

Ephesians 2:8-10 are clear. salvation comes first and good works come after. For by grace you have been are saved , through faith; and that not out of yourselves; it is God's gift: not out of works, that no one might boast.



For we are his workmanship, having been created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.



Contrary to what so many people say, there is no mingling of the two.



Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.



I'm Definitely not Sinless but believe in repentance.""



Faith is the gift of God that saves us, it is not of ourselves as you shared here. No works from us in that faith given to us from Christ to believe in Christ, it is entirely by Christ..1 Corinthians 4:7 1 Corinthians 12:9.



Israel sought by the works of the law without faith( as faith was not given until Christ calls and rises to give His Spirit)..



Romans 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;



What was preached in the name of Christ to believe in ?



"repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name"



To repent and turn to God, with the faith given by Christ.



Turning to God is works of repentance.



How do we turn to God to repent and believe in Him ?



" God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities."



Repentance and faith are together..



"repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ"



Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities



Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.



Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.



Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.





Repentance given by Christs Spirit means they have zeal of God to clear themselves of satans sins..



2 Corinthians 7:11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.



Again faith and repentance is the gift of God, no man can repent or have faith without being given by the Lord



2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;



For all who claim to know the truth but fall away, they are impossible to renew again to repentance, they crucify Christ afresh..



Hebrews 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 17 Nov, 2020 09:00 AM

In all your getting get and Understanding!





I see you don't have that Yet !



No man is Sinless and cannot keep the Law .



We're under the New Covenant.



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Moonlight7

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Posted : 17 Nov, 2020 09:02 AM

Stop posting false Doctrine. And posting on Others!



You need to seek Jesus.

@Adam

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ADAM7777

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Posted : 17 Nov, 2020 09:10 AM

"In all your getting get and Understanding!



I see you don't have that Yet !



No man is Sinless and cannot keep the Law .



We're under the New Covenant."



a good understanding have all thy who do His commands, His command is to go and sin no more, is His command to go and sin for you ?



Is the command to be in darkness, to work ill to others, to lie steal and covet ?



How is the new covenant not having the law kept for us by Christ created in us, go and read the topic the gift of God which we are saved by..



Ezekiel 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:

20 That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.



Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 17 Nov, 2020 12:16 PM

Salvation is by Faith in Jesus Christ alone.





Not by Any works of the flesh.

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ADAM7777

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Posted : 18 Nov, 2020 01:25 AM

"Salvation is by Faith in Jesus Christ alone.



Not by Any works of the flesh."



THEN HOW DO YOU DENY HIM IN UNBELIEVING WORKS OF THE FLESH MOONLIGHT?



Titus 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and UNBELIEVING is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

16 THEY PROFESS THAT THEY KNOW GOD, BUT IN WORKS THEY DENY HIM, BEING ABOMINABLE, AND DISOBEDIENT, AND UNTO EVERY GOOD WORK REPROBATE.

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