Freewill is indeed a satanic lie. There no freewill in the Bible at all. Every soul is predestined. Paul gives us true message in Romans 9:1-13. God indeed Love , but not for all. Most mankind , including lukewarm Christians go to Hell. Proverbs 14:12, Matthew 7:17-21.
Surely we are not sinless till we die, but we as we come to Christ, we change and sin less. We avoid sins as possible. But, of course, in God's jurisdiction , we are sinful. Christ washes us with His blood, as we obey full John 3:16-21, not cutting 5 verses from John as today most churches are stopped in John 3 at verse 16, and not reading more important five verses there.
"It's like trying to keep the Law in Old testament."
All things are possible to Him who believes..
Mark 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
That new covenant is the law written in us and kept by the Holy Spirit..
Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
"Thing is man will never be totally Sinless til we with Christ in heaven."
Heaven is now in us, Christ is in us now in Heaven:
raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus
For our conversation is in heaven.......
from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ
ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem
and to the spirits of just men made perfect....
1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
Ephesians 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
Hebrews 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
"Following Jesus teaching doesn't mean you're going to be Sinless."
"Surely we are not sinless till we die, but we as we come to Christ, we change and sin less. We avoid sins as possible. But, of course, in God's jurisdiction , we are sinful. "
We be dead now:
Romans 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
"we are sinful. "
This is following Jesus' teaching to enter the Kingdom of Heaven, and this is the change, do your eyes see sinful somewhere?
Born of the Spirit we enter the kingdom of God...
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
1 John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh;
that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
henceforth know we no man after the flesh
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away
all things are become new
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Of course you guys/person/spirit are forgetting we are called from the beginning to love, that is what we are to believe in, God is love, love works no ill to your neighbour, it is either believed in or disbelieved in.
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Let your conversation be without covetousness, and also without these:
Hebrews 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.
Ephesians 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Colossians 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
the devils way is through covetousness and feigned words to make merchandise of you...
2 Peter 2:3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
I'm confused by Everything tondas has written. You say you believe in election, yet you seem to say you believe in a salvation by works. For you, faith in Christ isn't enough. Could you clarify that and directly address that? Thanks.
"You say you believe in election, yet you seem to say you believe in a salvation by works. For you, faith in Christ isn't enough."
abounding grace has one purpose, to turn the grace of Christ into lascivioousness as told by our Lord..
Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Immediately we see it is these lust believers that DENY CHRIST.
Romans 9, shows why aboundinggrace is confused, as he cant welcome grace to himself, it is all according to the foreknowledge of God, the grace of Christ is on nobody who has a hardened heart of sinning....
Romans 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
Election comes through sanctification of the Spirit, no Holy Spirit in the person, for obedience means no election..
1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Christ is the ELECT, to be BELIEVED IN (THEN HE IS ENOUGH FOR US) ..
1 Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
We are to believe in being created in His divine nature, and that means escaping the lust the false grace talkers commit freely.
We have temperance, godliness, kindness and charity, if they are without them, God tells us we are STILL BLIND, A FORGETFUL HEARER AND NON DOER
IF WE DID THOSE THINGS WE WOLD NEVER FAIL, AS THIS IS TO MAKE OUR CALLING AND ELECTION SURE ?
2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
ABOUNDINGGRACE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE GIFT OF GRACE IS, NOR BELIEVE IN IT, REFUSED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IN THE NEW THREAD.
WHAT IRONY HIS NAME IS ABOUNDINGGACE YET CANNOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE GIFT OF CHRIST IS US PUTTING ON CHRIST, TO BE THE ELECT OF GOD, WHICH IS HOLY WITH BOWELS OF MERCIES, KINDNESS, HUMBLENESS OF MIND, MEEKNESS AND LONGSUFFERING
ABOUNDINGGRACE CANT TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS WHEN HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THEM, WHICH ARE TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST AND B COMPLETE IN HIM
Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Colossians 3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
