And the angel answered and said into the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here: for he is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead and behold, He is going ahead of you into Galilee, there you will see Him; behold , I have told you.
Deborah the Judge and Jael the delivers of Israel.
The Bible says Deborah was a Prophetess. Evidently the Lord God told her what to do as it regarded the coming battle with Jabin and the king of Canaan, whose military commander was Sisera.
Deborah the Judge and Jael the delivers of Israel.
The Bible says Deborah was a Prophetess. Evidently the Lord God told her what to do as it regarded the coming battle with Jabin and the king of Canaan, whose military commander was Sisera.
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"
John 16: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the **AUTHOR** and **PERGECTER** of our faith!!
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”
Which would include I Timothy 2:11 where it is a terrible sin for a woman to **TEACH** God's Word to men!!
The angel told the women in Matthew 28:6,7 to tell the disciples that Jesus had risen from the dead and that He is going to Galilee where they will see Him.
The women did not sin since they did not teach the disciples the Word of God which is proven in the text:
Matthew 28:5-10: The angel said to the women "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. He is not here; He has risen, just as He said. Come and see the place where He lay. Then go quickly and tell the disciples: He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee There you will see Him. Now I have told you." So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell His disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them, "Greetings He said. They came to Him clasped His feet and worshiped Him. Then Jesus told them, "Do not be afraid Go and tell my disciples to go to Galilee, there they will see me!"
**IS IT PERMISSABLE FOR WOMEN TO **TEACH** OR PREACH IN THE NT CHURCH OR **FORUM** WHEN MEN ARE PRESENT**??
**WHAT DOES GOD"S INSPIRED WORDS SAY**??
I Corinthians 14:34,35: Women should remain silent In the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a woman to speak in the church.
I Timothy 2:11-14: A Woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman **TO TEACH** or assume authority over a **MAN** she must be silent!! For Adam was formed first, then Eve, and Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner! {*FIRST*}
According to Genesis 3:1-7 Eve became a sinner **FIRST** and then she helped Adam to sin!
Woman preachers and women who teach God's Word to men on any Christian Forum are disobeying the New Testament Word of God and are continually committing terrible sins!!
Moonlight: You said that the women went to tell the disciples the Good News that Jesus was RISEN.
This is absolutely true. The men were all in hiding at this point. The women had gone to the tomb and received this message.
This message is a huge part of what we commonly refer to as the "Gospel Message" However, Prophetic, you said, "The angel told the women in Matthew 28:6,7 to tell the disciples that Jesus had risen from the dead and that He is going to Galilee where they will see Him.
The women did not sin since they did not teach the disciples the Word of God."
However, this message they shared is recorded in the Bible multiple times in the Gospels, as is the fact that they shared it! Also, since the men were hiding away in fear, they had to be taught that what had been foretold had in fact taken place. So, is the message these women carried to the disciples the Word of God that they shared with the men, or isn't it? Sure, it was an angel that shared it with the women, but Who do you think sent the angel? If the message was not the Word of God, when did it BECOME the Word of God? Was it when Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John put pen to parchment? Was it when the early church set out the scrolls they had and pointed to those gospels and said "Those should be in the New Testament"?
It's true that the woman sinned before the man did, but you notice Adam didn't require much arm twisting to sin. In fact, all Eve had to do was put the fruit in his hand. God also has a wonderful way of providing an opportunity to atone for mistakes.
Genesis 3:15 (AMP): "And I will put enmity (open hostility) between you (the serpent/Satan) and the woman, and between your seed (offspring) and her seed** He shall [fatally] bruise your head, and you shall [only] bruise His heel."
**Many consider this reference to seed to be a first prophesy of the messiah. The heel is one of the toughest parts of the human body, but one way it's said to be possible to bruise it is through crucifixion. If it is, this is a means by which the atonement for the woman and all of mankind will come through the woman, and ONLY the woman because of Mary's virgin birth.
To add to this, the first message of atonement for sin and the crux of the Gospel Message was placed in the care of women first before anyone else. So as mankind falls through the act of women, so news of his reconciliation comes through the same!
Need another example of how God gives the opportunity to atone for sins? Matthew 26:33 (AMP) "Peter replied to Him (Jesus), " Though they all fall away because of You [and doubt and disown You], I will never fall away!" Jesus said, "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, this night, before a rooster crows, you will [completely] deny Me three times."
Then, after Jesus is risen and stands before the disciples, John records an interesting conversation. John 21:15 (AMP) "So when they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these [others do--with total commitment and devotion]?" He said to Him, "Yes, Lord; You know that I love You [with a deep, personal affection, as for a close friend]." Jesus said to him, "Feed My lambs." Again He said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me [With total commitment and devotion]?" He said to Him, "Yes, Lord; You know that I love You [with a deep, personal affection, as for a close friend]." Jesus said to him, "Shepherd My sheep." He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love Me [with a deep, personal affection for Me, as for a close friend]?" Peter was grieved that He asked him the third time, {***This was probably because Peter realized WHY he was being asked. This was a direct result of his 3x denial.} "Do you [really] love Me [with a deep personal affection as for a close friend]?" And he said to Him, "Lord, You know everything; You know that I love You [with a deep, personal affection as for a close friend]." Jesus said to him, "Feed my sheep."
God gives us the chance to atone for our sins. Sometimes atonement to be paid is everlasting, like the pain during childbirth God says Eve and her descendants will have to endure and the curse of sweat and exhaustion to be paid by men by working on the land. However, when the circle of certain acts of atonement (the Messiah born through only the woman's seed or Peter having to say "Lord, you know I love you," for the third time, is it just to continue to hold a grudge against women for the initial sin or Peter for his denials? If a woman is an atheist man's last hope to turn his life over to Christ, which is the greater sin, to speak the gospel to him that he may learn, or let him pass away to never hear the message?
Let us not forget that the message to the Corinthian church about women being silent in church was addressed to the church at Corinth first. We can debate whether it applies to us hundreds of years later as well, but if it is a blanket directive for ALL Christians everywhere, why is this directive only appearing in letters addressed to specific churches? It could be that there were cultural issues in those areas that necessitated special directions to those churches, in which case it does not apply to us now in the same way. It's important to not just be able to regurgitate scripture on demand, but to know what it means and why it's there so that when you do quote it, you do so with a specific purpose in keeping with its initial purpose.
When there's a job to be done, I don't care about your hardware, how you're built, what color you are, or where you hail from. I care about whether you have the skills and personality necessary to effectively do the job. Do the job your personality is best suited to. If it's being the pastor, be the best pastor you can be regardless of your gender, age, color, or creed. If you're best for leading Bible studies, go start one. If you're best suited to overseas missions, get your passport. If you're best suited to being the janitor, grab your mop. Just figure out what you're best at and do the job and stop whining over who should or shouldn't be allowed to do the jobs. God decides what skills we have, not public opinion.
Let us not forget that the message to the Corinthian church about women being silent in church was addressed to the church at Corinth first. We can debate whether it applies to us hundreds of years later as well, but if it is a blanket directive for ALL Christians everywhere, why is this directive only appearing in letters addressed to specific churches? It could be that there were cultural issues in those areas that necessitated special directions to those churches, in which case **IT DOES NOT APPLY TO US NOW** in the same way.
Satan's favorite quote about all of God's Word in the NT letters to all the churches is **IT MAY NOT APPLY TO US NOW**. This is of course the favorite quote of all women preachers and women who want to teach men God's Word.
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the **AUTHOR** and **PERGECTER** of our faith!!
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!
Which would include I Timothy 2:11 where it is a terrible sin for a woman to **TEACH** God's Word to men!!
The angel told the women in Matthew 28:6,7 to tell the disciples that Jesus had risen from the dead and that He is going to Galilee where they will see Him.
The women did not sin since they did not teach the disciples the Word of God which is proven in the text:
Matthew 28:5-10: The angel said to the women "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. He is not here; He has risen, **JUST AS HE SAID**. Come and see the place where He lay. Then go quickly and tell the disciples: He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee There you will see Him. Now I have told you." So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell His disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them, "Greetings He said. They came to Him clasped His feet and worshiped Him. Then Jesus told them, "Do not be afraid Go and tell my disciples to go to Galilee, there they will see me!"
**IS IT PERMISSABLE FOR WOMEN TO **TEACH** OR PREACH IN THE NT CHURCH OR **FORUM** WHEN MEN ARE PRESENT**??
**WHAT DOES GOD"S INSPIRED WORDS SAY**??
I Corinthians 14:34,35: Women should remain silent In the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a woman to speak in the church.
I Timothy 2:11-14: A Woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman **TO TEACH** or assume authority over a **MAN** she must be silent!! For Adam was formed first, then Eve, and Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner! {*FIRST*}
According to Genesis 3:1-7 Eve became a sinner **FIRST** and then she helped Adam to sin!
Woman preachers and women who teach God's Word to men on any Christian Forum are disobeying the New Testament Word of God and are continually committing terrible sins!!
Let us not forget that the message to the Corinthian church about women being silent in church was addressed to the church at Corinth first. We can debate whether it applies to us hundreds of years later as well, but if it is a blanket directive for ALL Christians everywhere, why is this directive only appearing in letters addressed to specific churches? It could be that there were cultural issues in those areas that necessitated special directions to those churches, in which case **IT DOES NOT APPLY TO US NOW** in the same way.
Satan's favorite quote about all of God's Word in the NT letters to all the churches is **IT MAY NOT OR DOES NOT APPLY TO US NOW**. This is of course the favorite quote of all women preachers and women who want to teach men God's Word.
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!!
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!
Which would include I Timothy 2:11 where it is a terrible sin for a woman to **TEACH** God's Word to men!!
The angel told the women in Matthew 28:6,7 to tell the disciples that Jesus had risen from the dead and that He is going to Galilee where they will see Him.
The women did not sin since they did not teach the disciples the Word of God which is proven in the text:
Matthew 28:5-10: The angel said to the women "Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. He is not here; He has risen, **JUST AS HE SAID**. Come and see the place where He lay. Then go quickly and tell the disciples: He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee There you will see Him. Now I have told you." So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell His disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them, "Greetings He said. They came to Him clasped His feet and worshiped Him. Then Jesus told them, "Do not be afraid Go and tell my disciples to go to Galilee, there they will see me!"
**IS IT PERMISSABLE FOR WOMEN TO **TEACH** OR PREACH IN THE NT CHURCH OR **FORUM** WHEN MEN ARE PRESENT**??
**WHAT DOES GOD"S INSPIRED WORDS SAY**??
I Corinthians 14:34,35: Women should remain silent In the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a woman to speak in the church.
I Timothy 2:11-14: A Woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman **TO TEACH** or assume authority over a **MAN** she must be silent!! For Adam was formed first, then Eve, and Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner! {*FIRST*}
According to Genesis 3:1-7 Eve became a sinner **FIRST** and then she helped Adam to sin!
Woman preachers and women who teach God's Word to men on any Christian Forum are disobeying the New Testament Word of God and are continually committing terrible sins!!
Oooh, Aaah. You know how to use Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V. Welcome to the 21st century. I can copy and paste too.
I grow tired of your accusations of Satanism and won’t allow you to keep doing so without correction, and libeling me on different threads will not go unnoticed.
I copy and paste:
Corinthians was a letter. Get it? A LETTER. Do you know what that means? A letter has a SPECIFIC ADDRESSEE: Someone that the letter is specifically addressed to and sent to. Paul wrote that letter to the church IN CORINTH! Look around, Prophetic. WE ARE NOT IN CORINTH.
There is much wisdom in the letters from Paul, wisdom that is helpful to all of us and is sufficiently wise to be considered as part of God's Word. However, despite all of this, as a LETTER to a specific addressee, we are obligated as wise Christ followers to consider the context in which it was written and why Paul puts certain things in certain letters and not in others. In all letters there will naturally be a few things that pertain MORE TO THE ORIGINAL ADDRESSEE than they do to those to whom it was not SPECIFICALLY addressed.
In Corinth, there were a number of priestesses who dressed lavishly with many jewels as part of their religion and taught and spread their pagan beliefs. Paul’s message was to tell the women in the church at Corinth not to be like those priestesses. To set themselves apart from those priestesses practicing idolatry, the women at Corinth would have to dress more conservatively and refrain from teaching religious ideas. If we don’t have priestesses running around in lavish clothes and jewelry teaching idolatry, then such a restriction is not needed to set women in the church apart from women of other faiths.
Likewise, to be set apart from Satan (the accuser) and not be like him you cannot do what he does. If what he does is lie and deceive, you cannot lie and deceive. If what Satan does is hurl accusations to silence, shame, and twist people’s minds, you cannot hurl accusations.
If you think someone is mistaken, discuss the mistake, share your ideas calmly and rationally. Prove that women have nothing worthwhile to teach. Prove that women's silence is a directive that is everlasting through the context of the scriptures in which they're written.
Accusations get you nowhere. We all know this is Satan's M.O. If you don’t want to be tied to him, you have to change your tactics. If you won't change your tactics, then GET BEHIND ME.
You know how to use Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V. Welcome to the 21st century. I can copy and paste too.