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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 10:35 AM

I see/hear a lot of arguing about various matters concerning the Bible and the world we live in. I think we can waste too much time going in circles about what is and what isn't, especially when there are people on two opposing sides.



Titus 3:8-11 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men. But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.



There's no reason to fuss and fret over what others say. Even when Christ was faced with Pilate's questioning, He said very little. In fact, this impacted Pilate all the more, and he wanted to release Jesus, but didn't due to the pressure put on him by the crowd.



John 19:9-12 And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer. Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee? Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin. And from thenceforth Pilate sought to release him: but the Jews cried out, saying, If thou let this man go, thou art not Caesar's friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.



Arguing with someone is mostly pointless. When we argue with our words, people tend to become bolder and cling to their position all the more because if they give in, they're surrendering to their opponent.



God's word is always enough, and He will make good on His Word, so we don't have to push it. His Word is piercing like a two-edged sword. When we share what He has said, there's nothing more we need to add. Someone can either accept it or reject it, but it falls on them.



Heb 4:12 or the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.



Be kind, be courteous, and be honest, but if someone rejects truth, then don't be afraid to walk away. God will still be there when you're gone, and He has it in his hands.



Matt 10:12-14 And when ye come into an house, salute it. And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 04:28 PM

Teddyhugger believes in countless fairy tales such **FLAT EARTH** fairy tale and the **SINLESS PERFECTION** fairy tale and all of the OT Sabbath laws are still in effect such as:



Exodus 31:14-16: Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it is to be put to death; those who do **ANY WORK** on that day must be **CUT OFF** from their people... Whoever does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath day is to be **PUT TO DEATH**!



Exodus 35:2,3; Whoever does **ANY WORK** on the Sabbath **MUST BE PUT TO DEATH**. Do not **LIGHT A FIRE** in any of your dwellings on the Sabbath day.



So do let Terry Hugger if you did **ANY WORJK* on the Sabbath since he might **HUG YOU TO DEATH**!!

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 05:20 PM

Quiznos



You even made s good point in this thread !



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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 05:25 PM

Toth I think you was spot on describing your buddy Richard when you posted Matt 7:6! Do you think I gave too much truth to Richard, the evidence of His removing WORDS from the Bible like Isaiah 9:6 and perhaps I was giving too much truth to that "which is holy unto the dogs" and possibly "cast my pearls before swine, lest Richard trample them under his feet, and turn again and rend me with his copy and paste??? What do you think?



Want something else to think about Toth on Richard's latest post above, claiming people should be stoned to death today by breaking the Sabbath? Note pathetic7744 says nothing about stoning anyone for murder, stealing, adultery, coveting etc... today but he has no problem with those commandments??? Strange teaching dude isn't he??? Has no common sense that YHWH does the judging in the end, not us today!



Note Richard has nothing to say about CREATION week BEFORE sin and I guess he thinks YaHuWaH the Father just "blessed" and "sanctified" the 7th DAY Sabbath for Himself to keep??? Absurdity! Genesis 2:1-3 is the story. Say WHAT Richard???

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 05:32 PM

Oooooh but we must remember what PHD missionary Richard says - that The Messiah came and broke the Sabbath to become a sinner like us and Richard can relate to that because he enjoys breaking the Sabbath also with his NEW "Jesus" he imitates!

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 05:40 PM

Teddy,



I have not called out anybody to my knowledge. Was never the intent of my post. I have no problem with you or Richard. If you see things differently than me, then fair enough. I don't expect everybody to agree or disagree with me, but hopefully we can do so peacefully.

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 05:55 PM

I hear you better by the title of your thread than I hear your latest post bubba! Is NOT your "issue" about "Wasting Time Arguing" and by your expertease that's just what it HAS to be but "arguing" to judgmental you, correct? Was it a quincidence that you just happened to pick out the verse of the day that goes along with your assessment of it all? Its ok, Toth, you can come clean with me buddy! Its all peaceful with me but it IS A joy to expose Richard and David feels the same way! The Messiah did a great job of exposing the Pharisees! Much better than I could of even thought to do! But it is our job to call out a sinner like Richard, would you agree? James 5:20!

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 07:13 PM

**IS JESUS CHRIST CO-EQUAL WITH GOD THE FATHER**??



Teddyhugger believes that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Everlasting Father are one and the same Being?? It is true that some people called Jesus the Everlasting Father in Isaiah 9:6 for Jesus said the Father and I are One and if you have seen Me you have seen the Father since they are both God and believe exactly the same.



The Roman Catholic Church was the first denomination to state that God the father and His Son Jesus are completely **CO-EQUAL** in AD 325.



Question: Is Jesus who is God **CO-EQUAL** with God the Father?



**WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



John 14:28: Jesus says, "If you loved Me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I**!"



John 10:27-30: Jesus says, "My sheep listen to My voice, I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, no one can snatch them out of My hand. **MY FATHER, WHO HAS GIVEN THEM TO ME** is **GREATER THAN ALL**!"



John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"



John 17:17: Jesus says to His Father, "Sanctify them by the truth **YOUR WORD** is Truth!!"



Deuteronomy 18:17-20: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them everything I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My Name!"



John 14:23-24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and **WE** will come to them and make **OUR HOME** with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; **THEY BELONG TO THE FATHER WHO SENT ME**!"



Revelation 1:1: The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which **GOD GAVE HIM**!



Jesus is the **HEAD** of God's Kingdom in the NT era until His 2nd Coming and **THEN** He will hand over the **ETERNAL** Kingdom to God the Father!



I Corinthians 15:23-24: For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in turn: Christ, the Firstfruits, then, when He comes, those who belong to Him. **THEN** He will hand over the {**ETERNAL**}Kingdom to God the Father!



There are 7 passages in the New Testament which state that we should **ONLY PRAY TO GOD THE FATHER**!! **SUCH AS**:



Matthew 6:6-10: Jesus says, "When you pray, go into your room, close the door and **PRAY TO YOUR FATHER**, who is unseen. Then **YOUR FATHER**, who sees what is done in secret will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them for your **FATHER KNOWS** what you need before you ask Him! This then, is how you should pray: 'Our **FATHER** in heaven hallowed be your name, **YOUR {**ETERNAL**}KINGDOM** come, **YOUR WILL** be done, on earth as it is in heaven!'"



Luke 11:4: Jesus says, "When you pray say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be Your Name, your {*ETERNAL*} Kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. "**FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



Revelation 1:1: The Revelation from Jesus Christ, which **GOD {The *FATHER*} GAVE HIM**!



John 14:28: Jesus says, "If you loved Me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the **FATHER IS GREATER THAN I!"

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 07:32 PM

Richard the pathetic7744 false teacher states -



"Teddyhug believes that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the Everlasting Father are one and the same Being?" end quote.



No I don't believe that but the BIBLE says so in Isaiah 9:6 and because the BIBLE says so then I BELIEVE it! Richard does not believe the obvious Bible verse of which he CONTANTLY removes part of it when he posts it like "EVERLASTING FATHER" is ALSO the SON'S NAME! He hates that verse so he tries to ignore it because it blows away his false doctrine that there was originally two or three deities! You see?



For Isaiah 9:6 REALLY says in the NIV - "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, >>>Everlasting Father,<<< >>>Prince of Peace."<<<



THERE IS NO translation that EVER leaves out the words "Everlasting/Eternal/Eternity Father" in any other Bibles. Nor does Richard's favorite NIV leave out the words that Richard the pathetic7744 does and hates! The Messiah is ALSO the >>>Everlasting Father,<<< from the beginning! Wow! Question to ask yourself since pathetic7744 will not, is that is there TWO "Everlasting Fathers" because the Bible says there is!

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 07:37 PM

Correction - Richard does not believe the obvious Bible verse in Isaiah 9:6 which he CONTANTLY removes part of it when he posts it without the words "EVERLASTING FATHER" which is ALSO the SON'S NAME!

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Posted : 23 Apr, 2020 09:22 PM

Teddy,



I think "arguing" is true to life for many of us. When I made two threads, I shared as I felt God leading me. I honestly wasn't even trying to connect the two as much as you seem to be connecting them, but I do agree that they can be connected. When I was sharing the verse of the day (after), I was thinking more about God's sovereignty, and how nature responds to its creator. You know, even the waves and the storm bow to the Lord.



Never have had any hard feelings towards you or David, and I enjoy Richard's post when he tries to be sensible and actually share his own thoughts about things and apply them to what scripture says.



2 Thess 2:14-15 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.



I believe there are times you admonish someone, and distance yourself from them, but there is a loving way to do it and a wrong way. When we know the difference, we can reach those individuals a lot better.



Again, wasn't calling anybody out. If I wanted to, I'm capable of being direct and have no problem with doing so. Be well. :)

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