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Quiznos

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Does a person need to believe in the made up word ' trinity ' to be saved.
Posted : 30 Mar, 2020 05:01 PM

Absolutely not.

There is not one scripture which states that salvation is based upon the word ' trinity '

Messiah says,UNLESS you believe that i am,you will die in your sins.



Acts 4 verses 10- 12

10 let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead—by this name this man stands here before you in good health.

11 “He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone.

12 “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.”

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Posted : 31 Mar, 2020 06:48 PM

Just like the long line of false teachers in his tradition, Quiznos follows them by twisting scripture. The context clearly says the Jews “believed” Jesus but Jesus called them sons of the devil.

Once again, Quiznos refuses to acknowledge hat his error of shallow belief in Jesus the Messiah is insufficient. Even James 2:19 says the devils >>believe<< and tremble but it doesn’t prove they are saved!

Why doesn’t Quiznos explain that a biblical believer is one who first believes that Jesus is Lord and fully God. A true repentant believer in Jesus is one who obediently submits to the Lordship of Jesus

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Posted : 2 Apr, 2020 06:44 AM

John 14:9



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Believers know this.



And Boone saved should question Forget, Sin dnd Holy Spirit.

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Does a person need to believe in the made up word ' trinity ' to be saved.
Posted : 2 Apr, 2020 06:44 AM

No one





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Moonlight7

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Posted : 2 Apr, 2020 06:47 AM

No one saved should question Father , Son and Holy Spirit.



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Posted : 2 Apr, 2020 06:55 AM

John 14:26



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Posted : 2 Apr, 2020 09:11 AM

I'm soooo busy and have been out of town much! So many good topics and not enough time to post!



Yes Cupcake the Bible is clear with the Scripture you posted that no one should question Father YHWH, His set apart WORD made flesh >>IN His Messiah Yah'shua<< and His set apart Holy Spirit. AMEN!



Lets look again at the Scripture you posted.... In John 14:9 note what it says, that YHWH Father and Himself - His set apart WORD, His spokesmen in the flesh now, Messiah Yah'shua His ONLY begotten Son that is also the EVERLASTING FATHER (Isaiah 9:6) is telling them that He Yah'shua (originally the Father's WORD before becoming flesh) and YHWH Father ARE ONE and the same!



Another words when they see Yah'shua, they are seeing Father YHWH Himself set apart in the flesh!



In John 14:26 note how it says Father YHWH's set apart Holy Spirit is "sent in His name" and that is how He speaks to us by first His set apart WORD (Yah'shua His Son) which IS the Bible and then understood by His set apart Holy Spirit! YAAAAAH!



The Father YHWH created everything through His set apart WORD before it become flesh and moved about by His set apart Holy Spirit during Creation time in the beginning of our time as we know it! Genesis 1:2 - "the Spirit of YHWH moved upon...."



John 1:1,2 (KJV) "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and >>>the Word was God.<<< The same was in the beginning with God."



John 1:14 (KJV) "And >>>the Word was made flesh,<<< and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of >>>the only begotten of the Father,<<<) full of grace and truth."



REMEMBER to ALWAYS understand that IMMORTAL Yahuwah (YHWH) the Father is >OMNIPRESENT!<



1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: >>>and these three are one.<<<"



So again, how did Father YHWH create? By His set apart WORD in the beginning? Why YESSSSS!



Psalms 33:6 NIV "The LORD merely >>>spoke,<<< and the heavens were created. He >>>breathed<<< the word, and all the stars were born."



Psalms 33:6 KJV "By the >>>word of the LORD<<< were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the >>>breath<<< of his mouth."



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Posted : 3 Apr, 2020 12:50 PM

**IS JESUS OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**??



This Bible study shows that you have to believe that Jesus is God to be saved!! **QUIZNOS** does not believe Jesus is God!!



John 20:27-29: Then He said to Thomas, "Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe!" Thomas said to him, "My Lord and **MY GOD**!" Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed!"



Isaiah 9:6: For unto us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor and **MIGHTY GOD**!



Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign. The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and will call Him **IMMANUEL**! {Which means **GOD WITH US**!}



Matthew 1:20-23: The angel of the Lord said to Joseph, "Take Mary home as your wife because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She is to give birth to a Son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus which means **GOD IS HELP**, because He will save His people from their sins. All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet {Isaiah 7:14 above} "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and they will call Him **IMMANUEL** which means **GOD WITH US**!



John 1:1-4; 18: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the **WORD WAS GOD**. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him **ALL THINGS WERE MADE**. In Him was Life, and that Life was the light of all mankind!!... No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!



John 14:6,7: Jesus says, "I am the **WAY** the **TRUTH** and the **LIFE**. No one comes to the Father except through Me. If you really knew Me, you will know the Father as well. From now on, you do know Him and have **SEEN HIM**!"



**GOD'S WORD COMMANDS THAT WE SHOULD ONLY WORSHIP GOD**!!



Matthew 4:9,10: Satan said to Jesus, "All this I will give you if you bow down and worship me." Jesus said to him, Away from Me Satan! For it is written, '**WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD** and serve Him only!



Revelation 19:9,10: The angel said to me, "Write this: **BLESSED** are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the **LAMB**!" And he added, "These are the true words of God!" At this I fell at his feet to **WORSHIP** him, But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus! **WORSHIP GOD**! For it is the spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus!"



Revelation 22:8,9: I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. But he said to me, "**DON'T DO THAT** A am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who **KEEP THE WORDS** of this scroll. **WORSHIP GOD**!!



Hebrews 1:6,8: When God brings His firstborn into the world He says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**.... About the Son He says, "Your throne, **O GOD**, will last for ever and ever, a scepter of justice will be the scepter of **YOUR KINGDOM**!"



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY**in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always!"



**JESUS CHRIST, OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**



Jesus is **WORSHIPED** many times in God's Word in Matthew 2:2,8,11; 14:33; 28:9,17 Luke 24:52 John 9:38 and Revelation 5:11-14 and !5:4!!



Matthew 2:10,11: When the Wise Men saw the star, they were overjoyed. On coming to the house, they saw the Child with His mother Mary, and they bowed down and **WORSHIPED HIM**!



Matthew 14:33; Then those who were in the boat **WORSHPED HIM**!!



Matthew 28:8,9: So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell His disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," He said. They came to Him, clasped His feet and **WORSHIPED HIM**!



Matthew 28:16,17: Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When the saw Him, they **WORSHIPED HIM**!



There are some who completely ignore these Scriptures and claim that Jesus is not God because he said that the Father is greater than me in John 14:28 and that the Father told Him what to say as per John 14:23,24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. The words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me."



John 9:37,38: Jesus said, "You have now seen Him; in fact, He is the one speaking with you!" Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he **WORSHIPED HIM**!



NOTE: Jesus is called the **LAMB** 30 times in the book of Revelation!



Revelation 5:13,14: Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, an all that is In them, saying "To Him who sits on the throne and to the **LAMB** be praise and honor and glory and power for ever and ever!" The 4 living creatures said, "Amen," and the elders fell down and **WORSHIPED**!



Revelation 17:14; They will wage war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be **HIS** **CALLED**, *CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!!



Titus 2:13,14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!!



*NOTE** **THERE WILL BE ONLY **TWO THRONES** IN THE HEAVENLY ETERNAL NEW JERUSALEM**!



Revelation 21:22,23: 22:1-3: I did not see a temple in the City, because the Lord God Almighty and the **LAMB** are its temple. The City does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of the Lord God gives it Light, and the **LANB** is its lamp ....Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the **THRONE OF GOD AND THE LAMB** {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... **THE THRONE OF GOD AND OF THE LAMB* will be in the City!



Revelation 3:21,22" Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give the right to sit with Me on **MY THRONE**, just as I overcame and sat down with the Father on **HIS THRONE**!"

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2020 03:28 PM

ATTENTION!!!



AGAIN in this very thread TWICE, Richard7744 keeps posting this one verse version below! Scroll up and look in this thread for yourself on both pages!



AND in soooooo many other threads he constantly post the same incomplete Isaiah 9:6 verse!!! Why does this CONTINUAL SINNER keep doing this???



Richard7744 states this - Isaiah 9:6: "For unto us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor and **MIGHTY GOD**!"



THERE IS NO translation that EVER leaves out the words "Everlasting/Eternal/Eternity Father" in any Bibles. Here is what exactly is said in the NIV that Richard7744 typically quotes from below! Note how Richard7744 leaves out "Everlasting Father" above TWICE in his supposed "quotes" of Isaiah 9:6 that are incomplete! He of course leaves off "Prince of Peace" also.



For Isaiah 9:6 REALLY says in the NIV - "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, >>>Everlasting Father,<<< Prince of Peace."



Its alarming Richard continues in his sin of removing WORDS from the Bible!

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Posted : 3 Apr, 2020 04:08 PM

**IS THE AMAZING DREADED CORONAVIRUS ONE OF THE THINGS MENTIONED IN GOD'S WORD THAT WILL TAKE PLACE JUST BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION**??



It is obvious that this worldwide plague is a message **FROM GOD**!! There are some like Littlest David and Teddy Hugger who strongly imply that Satan started this Coronavirus and God couldn't stop it, or it was a complete accident and God couldn't stop it???



The Olivet prophecies of Jesus are found in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21. Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 tells us what will take place just before the Great Tribulation, what will take place during the 1260-day Great Tribulation and the second Coming of Jesus on the Last Day of the Great Tribulation. And then Matthew 25:31-46 tells about the judgment of the saved and lost just after the 2nd Coming of Jesus.



Matthew 24:4-8, Mark 13:5-8: and Luke 21:10,11 tells what will take place just before the Great tribulation, and in Luke 21:11 Jesus prophesied, "There will be great earthquakes, **FAMINES** and **PESTILENCES** in various places!"



Dictionary definition of **PESTILENCE**: A **CONTAGIOUS OR INFECTIOUS EPIDEMIC DISEASE** that is virulent and **DEVASTATING**!!!



****WHICH IS A PERFECT DEFINTION OF THE ****CORONAVIRUS**An epidemic which could potentially turn into a horrifying global pandemic that kills millions of people!



However none of the plagues related to the End Times will hurt any of God's saints as shown by Revelation 9:4,20,21; 11:5; 16:2,5,6,7,9,11,21. God's wrath is mentioned 11 times in Revelation and every time God's wrath only hurt the unsaved.



Revelation 16:2,8,9" The first angel went and poured out his bowl on the land, and ugly festering sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and worshiped his image.... The 4th angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was allowed to scorch people with fire. They were seared by the intense heat and the cursed the name of God, who **HAD CONTROL** over these plagues.



Psalm 91:2-4: I will say of the Lord, "He is my refuge and my fortress, My God, in whom I trust. Surely He will save you from the fowler's snare and from the deadly **PESTILENCE**. He will cover you with His feathers, and under His wings you will find refuge; His faithfulness will be your shield and rampart!!"



Exodus 12:13 The blood will be a sign for you on the houses where you are; and when I see the blood, I will pass over you. **NO DESTRUCTIVE PLAGUE WILL TOUCH YOU** when I strike Egypt!



Revelation 9:3,4: And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like the scorpions of the earth. They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree but only those people who did not have the **SEAL OF GOD**!



Since the Coronavirus will not hurt any born from believers, Bible based churches should never avoid being gathered together. Unfortunatelty about 90 percent of the churches in USA only have services **ONLINE** at their **WEBSITES**. Many like LittlestDavid and TeddyHugger with little faith think this should be 100 percent! and that all Christians should wear **MASKS**!



Hebrews 10:24,25: Let us consider how we may spur one another on to love and good deeds, not giving up **MEETING TOGETHER**as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another--and **ALL THE MORE**as you see the Last Day approaching!



Romans 8:28,35,36: We know that in all things God works for the good of those who love Him, who have been called according to His purpose... For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons neither the present nor the future nor ant powers neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord!



CORONAVIRUS and **FAMINE** will cause many catastrophies and chaos throughout the world which will also cause many wars especially in the Middle East.



The world will be looking for a Savior and 666 and his False Prophet will fulfill the world's needs with many miracles.



Another amazing reason that the Great tribulation may be very close is that **POPE FRANCIS COMPLETELY QUALIFIES TO BE THE FUTURE FALSE PROPHET OF **666*

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Posted : 4 Apr, 2020 02:04 PM

False prophets dabble in numerology and distortions of scripture in order to teach false doctrine

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