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Signs, Seasons and Sabbath?
Posted : 3 Mar, 2020 12:57 PM

The moon is ordained for signs and seasons.

Psalm 8:3

When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained;



Psalm 104:19

He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.



Psalm 136:7-9

To him that made great lights: for his mercy endureth for ever: …



Psalm 148:3

Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.



I don't recall Moshe/Moses keeping a pagan calendar in his knapsack to consult for the Sabbath

Just sayin...

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Posted : 4 Mar, 2020 01:59 PM

Quiznos extremely Satanic quote:



"The bible or book, is not the Word of GOD Almighty, but rather the translations of man."



And so *QUIZNOS** is not a **BROTHER IN CHRIST**



Luke 17:3,4: Jesus says, "If your brother sins against you, rebuke them. Even if they sin against you 7 times in a day and 7 times come back to saying '**I REPENT**'' you must forgive them!"



Quiznos proud Satanic quote:



"I never **APOLOGIZE**!!



And so Quiznos is not a brother and he never apologizes to anyone he sins against!!



2 Corinthians 11:13-15: For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising then if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like *QUIZNOS*} will not put up with sound doctrine!!



John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "All those the Father gives to Me, and whoever comes to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER DRIVE AWAY**!~... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all those He has given Me.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS THE FATHER DRAWS THEM**, and I will raise them up at the Last Day! !...No one can come to Me**UNLESS THE FATHER HAS ENABLED THEM!"



So it is the Father that enables someone to be saved and not the holy spirit. The holy spirit enables believers to understand God's Word. Jesus only baptizes with the holy spirit those who the Father has **ENABLED**!



Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the *LAMB* but the *LAMB* will overcome them because is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings, and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!



{Right after the marriage Fest of the *LAMB* Jesus and His **FAITHFUL** saints will mount heavenly white horses and conquer 666 and his armies as per Revelation 19:7-21}



And so if the Father *DRAWS YOU** and "ENABLES YOU** to be born from above you will be **FAITHFUL** and you will never forsake your faith.

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Posted : 4 Mar, 2020 07:43 PM

https://www.hope-of-israel.org/sideside.htm





Throughout the Bible we find mention of the weekly Sabbath side-by-side with new moon observance. Is this coincidental, or an indication that these two days are meant to be observed together, and that one is dependent upon the other for determining its place in time? What does the book of Genesis say we should use to determine time -- the sun? the moon? both? The answer to this question is vital in determining when YEHOVAH God's weekly Sabbath day should be kept.



Article in part:

At first glance it seems that the Bible nowhere outlines a clearly spelled out formula for constructing a Sabbath calendar. Genesis 1:14 tells us what source we are to turn to for calculations, but there doesn't seem to be any explicit instructions on their practical implementation. Notes Jonathan Brown, "notching off seven "solar-day" periods which never correspond at the beginning or end with heavenly lights does not satisfy Genesis 1:14". But all is not lost. There is a passage in the Bible that plainly shows how to determine YEHOVAH's TRUE Sabbath days! This passage is found in Exodus 16. Notice what Herbert W. Armstrong writes --

The generation of Israelites which Moses led out of Egypt had had no religious instruction or training. Probably they knew little about the Sabbath. Time could have been lost -- to them. But, if so, GOD REVEALED IT BY AMAZING MIRACLES!

NOW NOTICE! These Israelites, some three or four million in total number (600,000 men above age 20), came to the wilderness of Sin two months after leaving egypt, and some two weeks BEFORE arriving at Mt. Sinai [in Saudi Arabia]. Remember, this is weeks before God gave them the Ten Commandments. These people were griping and grumbling because of scarcity of food in the desert.



And here God revealed to them, by MIRACLES, which day was the Sabbath, and whether it makes any difference whether it is kept (Which Day Is the Christan Sabbath? Pasadena: Ambassador College Press, 1972. P. 30).

Let's, now, go to the Bible and get the time frame:

And they departed from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came to the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sina; and ON THE FIFTEENTH DAY, IN THE SECOND MONTH after their departure from the land of Egypt, all the congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron. And the children of Israel said to them, Would we had died smitten by the Lord in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh-pots, and ate bread to satiety! for ye have brought us out into this wilderness, to slay all this congregation with hunger. And the Lord said to Moses, Behold, I will rain bread upon you out of heaven: and the people shall go forth, and they shall gather their daily portion for the day, that I may try them WHETHER THEY WILL WALK IN MY LAW OR NOT. -- Exodus 16:1-4,

It is very interesting that Moses should mention the EXACT DAY that the Israelites murmured against him and Aaron in the wilderness -- nowhere else in the narrative of the Israelites' wanderings from Egypt to the Promised Land is an exact date mentioned! This day -- the 15TH DAY OF THE SECOND MONTH -- was so important to YEHOVAH God that He appeared in the cloud before the Israelites and then caused thousands (maybe millions) of quail to be blown into the Israelites' camp "between the two evenings," i.e., the afternoon of the 15th. Why was this day so important to YEHOVAH?



Continues Herbert Armstrong --



I will show you that God was speaking to them ON A SABBATH. It is evident that the Eternal (who, in human flesh later became CHRIST) first preached to man on the first Sabbath. Adam was created on the sixth day of creation week Evidently he was created on the sixth day of creation week. Evidently he was created in the late afternoon, since the creation of man was the last act of creation on that day. When the sun had set, immediately after Adam's creation, God preached to him, offering him the GIFT of eternal life (through the tree of life), and warning that the wages of sin is DEATH (Gen. 2:15-17).



And here [in the wilderness of Sin] God is again preaching to Israel, through Moses, on the Sabbath.



In the next verses of Exodus 16 we read how the Israelites saw the glory of the Eternal (verse 10) and how, in the afternoon, He sent the quail for food, and the next morning the manna was on the ground (verses 11-13).



Writes Armstrong --



Now notice the next miracle. Verse 20: some tried to save a supply of manna over until next morning, contrary to God's command. "It bred worms, and stank."



Now verse 22: On the sixth day they gathered a double portion of manna. Verse 23: Moses explained that "Tomorrow is the rest of the Holy sabbath unto the Eternal." And on this sixth day, they were commanded to lay up the Sabbath supply of food, which they did. And, verse 24, it did not breed worms nor decay, as on the preceding five days! Here was another MIRACLE from God, showing them which is the right seventh day!



When the next morning came -- the SABBATH, Moses said (verses 25-26) "Today is a sabbath unto the Eternal: today ye shall not find it in the field. Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none" (Which Day Is the Christian Sabbath?, p.31).



Starting on the 15th day of the month, YEHOVAH God provided food for the Israelites then, on the seventh day after the 15th, He did not provide any more manna -- thereby showing that this day (the 22nd day of the month) was a Sabbath. Obviously, if the 15th was seven days before the 22nd, it too was a Sabbath! This Herbert Armstrong clearly understood. We can see here that YEHOVAH was setting up His weekly Sabbath cycle for the Israelites. If the 15th and the 22nd were Sabbath days -- then the 8th and the 29th of the month were also Sabbaths! So here we see a pattern -- 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th. What significance do these dates have in YEHOVAH God's calendar? Just this -- THEY CORRESPOND TO THE PHASES OF THE MOON!! YEHOVAH was showing the Israelites that His Sabbath days were to fall on the days corresponding to the moon's phases, thus showing that the weekly Sabbaths were to be kept by THE SAME CALENDAR or reckoning used to determine the annual Sabbaths or Feast days!

Signs, Seasons, Days and Years

There is yet another KEY that translators and interpreters of YEHOVAH God's Word have known and kept to themselves for quite some time. Its discovery will help us to understand YEHOVAH's natural time-keeping law.

Regarding those four key words in Genesis 1:14 -- signs, seasons, days and years -- we can be sure that the sun generally marks days. After 12 moon cycles have passed, the earth has gone through nearly four seasons of weather changes making up a year, marked by the sun with four clearly defined earth tilts called equinoxes and solstices. These in turn are determined by the angle of the sun throughout which the sunlight hours grow longer to a threshold at which they then begin growing shorter again. The underlying Hebrew word is accurately translated by the word signs -- implying astronomical events such as eclipses, and others we observe with our eyes in the sun, moon and stars. This reminds us of YEHOVAH's promise in Jeremiah 31:35-36: "Thus says the Lord, who gives the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night...If those ordinances depart from before Me, says the Lord, then the seed of Israel shall also cease from being a nation before Me forever."

Finally, at first glance, the word seasons appears to represent the four radical weather shifts we experience each year -- winter, summer, spring and autumn or fall. However, the Hebrew word that has been translated "seasons" implies NO SUCH THING! This word -- "MOWADAH" (Strong's #4150) -- literally means "AN APPOINTMENT, i.e., a fixed time or season---by implication, an assembly (as convened for a definite purpose); technically the congregation; by extension, the place of meeting..." etc. Clearly, using the English word "seasons" to translate a word that literally means "an appointment" is, at the very best, misleading. In fact, it is the sun (equinoxes and solstices) that marks the four seasonal changes that make up the actual year. So, to interpret the Hebrew word "mowadah" to mean those seasons is duplicitous to say the least!

Psalm 104 reveals the answer to the riddle of this apparently deliberate mistranslation. There, in verse 19, we find the same word -- mowadah -- used SPECIFICALLY IN RELATION TO THE MOON --

He appointed the moon for seasons [mowadah]..."

In this verse the English word "appointed" actually means "made" -- see Strong's #6213. Better translated, this verse should read: "He MADE the moon for APPOINTMENTS"! Now, just what are His, or YEHOVAH God's, appointments? The answer to this is found in Leviticus 23

Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: "The FEASTS of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My FEASTS.



Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is a Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings" (verses 2-3, NKJ).

Interestingly, the word "feasts" in verse 2 above is, in fact, the word "MOWADAH" -- exactly the same as "SEASONS" in Genesis 1:14 and Psalms 104:19. So these verses in Leviticus 23 should read as follows: "Speak to the children of Israel, and say to them: 'The APPOINTMENTS of the Lord, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, these are My APPOINTMENTS."

The grave error in translating "mowadah" as "feasts" becomes apparent when you realize that in verse 3 the SOLE SUBJECT is the seventh-day Sabbath! Generally we don't think of the Sabbath as being a "feast" per se, but it actually leads the list of "feasts" in Leviticus 23. The bottom line is that with the actual planetary moon being established for YEHOVAH God's appointments [mowadah] in Psalm 104, the verses in Leviticus (2-3) prove that the sole means by which the seventh-day Sabbath was calculated was by the moon! The Sabbath is a mowadah -- the moon WAS MADE FOR mowadah. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible that specifies this term for the sun.

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Posted : 5 Mar, 2020 05:07 AM

**IS **REJOICING** AND **JOY** PART OF THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST**??



Matthew 5:12: Jesus says, Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. **REJOICE** and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** in heaven!!"



Luke 6:22,23: Jesus says, "Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude and insult you and reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. **REJOICE** in that day and **LEAP FOR JOY** because great is your **REWARD** in heaven!!"



Luke 1:47: My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit **REJOICES** in God my Savior.



Luke 10:20: Jesus says, "**REJOICE** that your names are written in heaven!"



John 16:22: Jesus says, "I will see you again and you will **REJOICE**, and no one will take away **YOUR JOY**!!"



Acts 2:25,26: David said about Jesus, "I saw the Lord always before me, because He is at my right hand, I will not be shaken. Therfore my heart is glad and my tongue **REJOICES**.... You will fill me with **JOY** in Your presence!!"



Romans 5:1-4: Since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we **REJOICE** in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also **REJOICE** in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope.



Romans 12:15: **REJOICE** with those who **REJOICE**!!



2 Corinthians 6:10: We are sorrowful yet **ALWAYS REJOICING**; poor yet making many rich; having nothing , and yet **POSSESSING EVERYTHING**!



I Corinthians 13:6 Love does not delight in evil but **REJOICES** with the truth!



Philippians 4:4: **REJOICE** in the Lord **ALWAYS**. I will say it again: **REJOICE**!!



I Peter 1:4-6: This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, who through faith are shielded by God's power until the coming of salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time! In this you greatly **REJOICE**!



Revelation 19:6,7: Hallelujah! For our Lord God almighty reigns. Let us **REJOICE** and be glad and give Him glory! For the wedding of the **LAMB** has come, and the bride has made herself ready!!



**IS **REJOICING** AND **JOY** PART OF THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST**??



Colossians 1:12,13: We give **JOYFUL THANKS** to the Father who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of His holy people in the Kingdom of Light. For He has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the Kingdom of the Son He loves, in whom we have redemption and forgiveness of sins!!



John 15:10,11: Jesus says, "If you keep My commands, you will remain in My love... I have told you this so that **MY JOY** may be in **YOU** and that your **JOY** may be complete!!"



John 17:24: Jesus says, "Until now you have not asked for anything in My name. Ask and you will receive {If it is God's will}, and your **JOY** will be complete!!"



Romans 14:17,18: For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and **JOY** in the Holy Spirit, because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God!!



Romans 15:13: My the God of hope fill you with **ALL JOY** and peace as you trust in Him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit!!



Galatians 5:22 The fruit of the Spirit is love and **JOY**!!



I Thessalonians 1:6: You became imitators of us and of the Lord, for you welcomed the message in the midst of severe suffering with the **JOY** given by the Holy Spirit!!



I Thessalonians 5:16: **REJOICE ALWAYS**, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances, for this is **GOD'S WILL** for you in Christ Jesus!!



I Peter 1:7-9: This will result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed. Though you have not seen Him, you love Him, and even though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and are filled with an **INEXPRESSIBLE AND GLORIOUS **JOY**, for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls!!



Jude 24,25: To Him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you before His glorious presence without fault and with **GREAT JOY**--to the only God and Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore!! Amen!

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Posted : 5 Mar, 2020 05:16 AM

Kj,

Lets look at the passover, with the thirty day months the passover would be celebrated the same day each year.

When the catholics turned away from the way GOD Almighty wanted man to tell time, to their own way using the sun, they began to incoporate their pagan worship of the sun, moon and planets into their religion of UNBELIEF.

The result had also changed the day the passover was to be celebrated, because there needs to be an account for the additional 5 days.

Banks, and other institues use the 30 day calendar when calculating transactions.

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