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Struggling with faith, Or with what i have been hearing being taught within the church.
Posted : 15 Feb, 2020 04:09 PM

I have heard people say that they are struggling with THEIR faith, are they actually struggling with FAITH, as though faith is a person, or with something, or someone else.

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Posted : 15 Feb, 2020 08:14 PM

Chuck and/or Quiznos. If you are struggling because of a pastor, then find a different pastor. How hard is that?



If I'm having trouble with a medication, should I keep taking it, or go to a doctor and see if they can give me something else that I won't react poorly too? If it's the doctor and he refuses to act competently, then shouldn't I find a different doctor?



Come on guy(s), it's common sense.

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Posted : 16 Feb, 2020 02:54 AM

Tothmax,

We are to trust in G-D, not man. You don't seem to understand why Jesus came and the Holy Spirit was given. It was so each of us can now have a personal relationship with G-D.

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Posted : 16 Feb, 2020 03:00 AM

Chuck,



You're a man. I don't trust you.

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Posted : 16 Feb, 2020 03:04 AM

Chuck,



We've always been able to have a personal relationship with God. Look at Enoch. He is a great example.



Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.



I can't believe your doctrines because they're usually not based in scripture. I will believe God over man, and you are a man with your own unique doctrine. Not investing in that Kool-Aid.

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Posted : 16 Feb, 2020 03:13 AM

Here ya go mr argumentative:

"But Moses said to him, ........" Would that all the LORD’s people were prophets, that the LORD would put his Spirit on them!”

Tothmax, Things changed after Jesus, read your Bible, (or go talk with your Pastor, lol)

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Posted : 16 Feb, 2020 10:18 AM

Chuck,



Where in that statement does it say that we had to wait so that people could have a personal relationship with God?



Oh wait, we have always been able to have a personal relationship with God.



As I said, I'm not buying you're Kool-aid, because it's spiked with something foul.

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Posted : 16 Feb, 2020 10:56 AM

Tothmax, the reason you don't understand is because you reason Scripture one verse at a time like a good Calvinist, and fail to see the big picture. "You can't see the forest through the trees".

I've tried to help you see, as a good follower of Jesus should, but your pride keeps stepping in the way.

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Posted : 16 Feb, 2020 02:13 PM

Chuck,



I've told you many times how I study scriptures, so I'm quite certain you know your statement is complete nonsense. As usual, you're arguments are borrrring.

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Posted : 16 Feb, 2020 10:29 PM

Tothmax,



"Now this he said about the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were to receive, for as yet the Spirit had not been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. - John 7:39 -

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Posted : 17 Feb, 2020 12:24 AM

Chuck,



The Spirit was sent as a comforter to us, which contributes and improves our relationship to God and others even. Regardless, God has always had a relationship with us and us with Him.



John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;



John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.



Notice in chapter 14, it says "another."

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