WOW! Elijah must have had one amazing view when he was caught up in a whirlwind !!
I know I did when I went up in a plane the first time!! Flat as a pancake!!
Teddyhug quote from a previous flat earth movement thread:
So NOW you just "disrespected" your "intelligent leader" claiming he bends water, earth does not have corners, its not His footstool, it has no firmament keeping the water from pouring in, like the time of the flood when the "windows of heaven were opened up" and the things of earth was destroyed!
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Chuck/Khutzpa quote:
@Parehtban
Yawn, still no facts? Look dude, I've done some surveying in my time. Guess what? Surveying large distances HAS to take into consideration of curvature and refraction.
Here is some advice for you: Get off, getting off on your conspiracy web sites and read some unbiased information by people who have no horse in the race.
PLEASE GOOGLE THIS:
"Error and Correction for the Curvature of the Earth, and Refraction (Surveying)" It doesn't matter what articles come up - read them!
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The emblem of the United Nations contains a polar azimuthal equidistant projection. A useful application for this type of projection is a polar projection which shows all meridians (lines of longitude) as straight, with distances from the pole represented correctly.
A retired career surveyor for 32 years on this radio program says the following:
They NEVER referenced any markers on BIG projects. The curve was NEVER taken into account. So from one city to the next you have a whole bunch of suveyors working on different plane models and these models have to link up. So eventually you should see a curve there.
Surveyor quote "I am wondering if you actually took the geodetic markers and placed them , what kind of shape you would end up with ?...Elevation is refereced on the geodetic model and based off a plane...which is only good for that exact location"
What is interesting is these markers are put down by the U.S.Geological Survey who are the creators of the Azimuthal equidistant map which is not a globe map but a plane map!! ...So the >>>>PREMIER MAP MAKERS OF THE WORLD<<<<have a geodetic model there that surveyors don't use!!
"So your telling me that ALL my projects that even though they LOOK straight they are actually crooked? How does that actually work?"
"It's like Al Queda...you can't find them but they are there " (curvature) according to the suveyor textbooks.
So if anything could make the geodetic model more accurate it would be the satellite system. Especially since these two government organizations are linked but here is the kicker..they don't care because no one is using that model!!
To sum it all up: Water always determines the level! LOL
Taking you from an East Coast landmark to a West Coast icon, the Washington, D.C., to San Francisco route cuts through America's heartland with unforgettable stops along the way. At slightly over 2,800 miles, you could break down this 40-hour trip into five eight-hour driving days with four overnight stops. Hmm. wonder how they know this? Surveyors perhaps?
The distance from earth to the sun? GOOGLE THIS CHUCK: 92.96 million miles. Now I don't know about you...but I would hate to be that surveyor! Burnt to a crisp now wouldn't you say? Aren't they saying they want to colonize the moon and also mars? LMBO! We never went to the moon according to NASA'S own mouth! Maybe you should use your own advice there Chuckk: " read some unbiased information by people who have no horse in the race." and perhaps some critical thinking skills would be useful as well.
"We can only fly in earth's orbit." They want to go to the moon next! What a crock of lies.
MAN!...is Google maps lazy. My husband lost an hour out on delivery because the database isn't updated. hmmm...maybe they are busy with the satellite system and GPS to update their model! LOL
No, not at all. You're posting something about tower calibration that is more localized and trying to use it to prove thousands of miles of diameter, volume, and surface area. The calculations that are applied on the site for towers are appropriate, but your usage would be affected by drifting on a grand scale. For example, if you were to encounter a mountain, you're doing to have jumps and dips. That's why I'm not sure why you used it.
Toth correctly writes - ""If you're talking about curvature of the earth, you're going to have similar measurements depending on the hemisphere. If I were to take a perfect globe and roll it to an opposite end, the measurements would be equal. If I increase the volume of the sphere, the diameter, and circumference will expand with it, but the measure of the curvature will be constant, or else it
wouldn't be a sphere."
Toth is correct! he has an open mind to truth, so he looked at your post but he is neither a flat earther or sphere earther when looking at your "proof"! Why the stubbornness Chuck, there is NO proof the earth is a sphere by your supposed evidence! Did you even respectfully read the logic in what Toth posted? Let me help you! Rather a supposed curve earth or a flat earth, it makes no difference, the equation is for distance and terrain! Its all about line of sight a much as possible, tower to tower signal! How did you miss that??? So then you insult Toth by calling him a name "you are bizarre" you said with no evidence to support your claim. Are you a Christian or not Chuck? Then act like one!!! You are always taking down to people on this forum when you are clearly wrong like by the example here. Yet you twist what Toth posted like he was stating the same thing as you but with different words. NOT EVEN CLOSE CHUCK to what you said! WHAT IS A MATTER WITH YOU!
Did you even listen to the WITNESS OF 32 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE being a Surveyor on the video??? Big land tract Surveyors like the guy on the video are taught about curvature BUT THEY DO NOT USE IT in the field for calculations! Everything He Surveyed was on calculations of a flat plane! Get it! Wake up Chuck!
Oh and Chuck, why do we bother with all the towers, the TONS of towers they keep putting up EVERYWHERE??? Simple answer to that, there ARE NO satellites (unless by temporary balloon?) to project signals, relay too because they DO NOT EXIST, the earth IS ENCLOSED with a SOLID MASS Chuck!!! Genesis 1:6-8..... OK?
Nobody is going anywhere until Yahuwah returns, departs the firmament like a scroll to get His people! Right?
Umm, yeah, that doesn't mean it doesn't change. The curvature of a ping pong ball is greater than of a beachball. It means it's constant in relation to circumference or diameter.
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Teddy adds: "there are no satellites".
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Yeah, right Ted. What are all those star like points of light zooming across the sky at night?
Well there you go Chuck, now you are waking up about tower distance! So "thousands of miles of diameter" of so called sphere shaped earth is not an issue. Its only distance and terrain that matters! And so it is on the flat earth model also!
"Yeah, right Ted. What are all those star like points of light zooming across the sky at night?"
On second thought Chuck your right! We should just believe they are satellites because they told us so and show us cute little pictures of the flimsy things! Remember the floppy door on the "space station" picture they keep showing us??? LMBO!
Drones, that never change direction and are self illuminated, until they fly into the shadow of the earth. Yeah right Ted. They turn their lights off at the right time just to trick us!
There is NO curvature Chuck of the earth, so there is nothing to be constant when it comes to imaginative curvature! Its simple Chuck. prove to me the earth has a curve? Show me an example of bending standing water or even in distance on the horizon?
But there is on your examples you gave that are real, you can hold in your hand and measure! LOL!
Chuck writes - Drones, that never change direction and are self illuminated, until they fly into the shadow of the earth.
So can you prove satellites are self illuminated? Can you prove they have constant rocket power to stay in position, to avoid collision??? There are said to be 16,000 of them Chuck and the never crash into each other! You are just a little brighter than that, are you not Chuck?
What is this mystery "shadow of the earth" you are chucking about???
Chuck writes - "They turn their lights off at the right time just to trick us!"?
Have not seen that, not aware drones and aircraft to do that. Satellites supposedly have solar power and batteries so they say! Are you suggesting your comic pictured satellites turn the lights off and on to save battery life???
Maybe you should use your own advice there Chuckk: " read some unbiased information by people who have no horse in the race." and perhaps some critical thinking skills would be useful as well. 
Let me help you! Rather a supposed curve earth or a flat earth, it makes no difference, the equation is for distance and terrain! Its all about line of sight a much as possible, tower to tower signal! How did you miss that??? So then you insult Toth by calling him a name "you are bizarre" you said with no evidence to support your claim. 
Are you a Christian or not Chuck? Then act like one!!! 
You are always taking down to people on this forum when you are clearly wrong like by the example here. Yet you twist what Toth posted like he was stating the same thing as you but with different words. NOT EVEN CLOSE CHUCK to what you said! WHAT IS A MATTER WITH YOU! 
and show us cute little pictures of the flimsy things! Remember the floppy door on the "space station" picture they keep showing us??? LMBO!