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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 08:19 AM

Before GOD Almighty changed the name of Yaaqob-

Jacob to Israel, did the nation of Israel exist.

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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 10:46 AM

@Parehtban,

May G-Dspeed you on your journey.

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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 10:48 AM

@ Quiznos,

Truth is, they literally kicked me out.

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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 11:36 AM

Chucknos writes,



Hey bahn Are you a dropout from the local yeshiva?



Is that like a going around without saying you claim I have the same mid-rash as you??? Not hardly!

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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 11:39 AM

Israel is several things:



- A man

- A nation

- A people

- A blessing



All of them had various origin and not always the same form. Through all of it, an identity waa formed where the blessing was passed through being God's people to a blessed nation. It was what emerged from the blessing Esau sold and squandered to Jacob.

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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 11:46 AM

@tothmax

"An anachronism (from the Greek ἀνά ana, "against" and χρόνος khronos, "time") is a chronological inconsistency in some arrangement, especially a juxtaposition of persons, events, objects, or customs from different periods."

The OP is asking "when" (time) Israel first appears in Scripture. If you want to study a bit, check out YHWH vs Elohim. This is primary basis for the documentary hypothesis.

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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 12:02 PM

When did Israel first exist in which form? I stated what I did because each has a different origin. If you simply look for the word "Israel" in scripture, its origins is Peniel when the blessing was fulfilled on to Jacob



It existed first as a blessing and also a land mass. Then it became a man. then a people that formed a nation. They're all somewhat different in origin but the same in existence.

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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 12:04 PM

Your post makes sense to me Toth! Truthful. Speaking of being truthful!



Chucknos posts to -



"@tothmax The OP is asking "when" (time) Israel first appears in Scripture." end quote



So there you have it Toth, Chuck starting this thread talking to himself again for the whole purpose in "schooling" Christians (which Chucknos is not) in this thread. While continuing on with the LIE there is only one profile of him!

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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 12:07 PM

I should also said your post has common sense to it! Thanks!

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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 12:19 PM

@tothmax,

Okay, I can play the game also!

Israel first existed in the loins of Avraham under his circumcised peenis. Don't believe me? Ask Paul, even he says so! Note Israel's seed did not pass through a uncircumcised peenis (Essau). However, Israel first existed in the mind of G-D at the Tower of Babel.

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When did the people of Isreal appear in Scripture.
Posted : 10 Feb, 2020 12:27 PM

Chuck,



It's not a game. It's simply a response to your question. Why do you see it as something else?



Also, I'm sure the idea existed with God long before the tower of Babel, and of course it existed with "Abraham's loins" as I said the blessing was a part of it. Blessing are passed down by birth, but of course Esau entered a contractual agree with his brother Jacob. Pretty sure I stated this already though.

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