"Now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you will be blind and not see the sun for a time." And immediately a mist and a darkness fell upon him, and he went about seeking those who would lead him by the hand.
Acts 14:10
said with a loud voice, "Stand upright on your feet." And he leaped up and began to walk.
Acts 16:18
She continued doing this for many days. But Paul was greatly annoyed, and turned and said to the spirit, "I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her!" And it came out at that very moment.
Acts 19:11-12
God was performing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, so that handkerchiefs or aprons were even carried from his body to the sick, and the diseases left them and the evil spirits went out.
Acts 20:10-12
But Paul went down and fell upon him, and after embracing him, he said, "Do not be troubled, for his life is in him." When he had gone back up and had broken the bread and eaten, he talked with them a long while until daybreak, and then left. They took away the boy alive, and were greatly comforted.
Acts 28:5
However he shook the creature off into the fire and suffered no harm.
Acts 28:8
And it happened that the father of Publius was lying in bed afflicted with recurrent fever and dysentery; and Paul went in to see him and after he had prayed, he laid his hands on him and healed him.
"“If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ 3you shall not listen
to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the LORD your God is testing you, to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him." -Deuteronomy 13"
AND!
""24For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 25See, I have told you beforehand." Matthew 24" end quotes.
The thread is about Paul and the miracles performed thru him. First of all Chuckk claims the Bible is NOT the Word of God and is a "slow-eating cancer"." So what is his point in quoting Scripture??? Anyway lets reason out the sadness that Chuckk tries to imply that Paul would teach to "‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’" and where is the WRITTEN PROOF evidence that he did so??? Then he goes on to imply that Paul "perform(s) great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." as if that Scripture he posts identifies Paul as such???
So there is an obvious problem for Chuckk to PROVE Paul was a "false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." just because he did perform such miracles!
It would seem Chuckk has an agenda like "hate" of Paul, always desperately trying to prove Paul is a false teacher and false miracle worker. yet never showing proof by Scripture, yet his attempt to link Paul to verses Chucknos provided!
Thanks for exposing the false teacher Chucknos! Thanks for the verse David and your time in posting of 2
Thessalonians 2:9 NIV
"The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of **displays** of power through signs and wonders that **serve the lie**,"
It really does say all we need to know about "signs and wonders" of some faked "serve the lie" and some real in the Bible!
Like the examples you gave below and what will happen in the future which is NOW, on this very forum!
David states,
Lying signs and wonders really do fool people, just look at the prosperity preachers who work them on a daily basis on TBN. It’s a big money making scheme! But just wait til Satan, who is the master of deceiver starts working even more deceitful works that are more convincing" end quotes.
@ davey & ted, as usual you interpret according to preconception. David says Paul's signs prove him an apostle. Yet Scripture says signs are not necessarily proof of anything. Therefore david needs to come up with something better than signs to prove Paul as an apostle.
This forum is being deluged and flooded with multiple **FALSE PROPHETS** in the last 6 months!! The newest one is HiddenMountain, then we have had Khutzpah, Quiznos, Chuckles, Sadlup, Zecharyah, ADAM7777 and Hark!!
They are all looking for an Satanic earthly kingdom instead of a Heavenly Kingdom?? They also do not believe that Jesus is our **GREAT** GOD** and **SAVIOR** and that the New Testament and all the books of Paul are not inspired by God???
Khutzpah Satanic quote: "The notion that the Bible is the Word of God is a "slow-eating cancer".
Quiznos Satanic quote: "The bible or book, is not the Word of GOD Almighty, but rather the translations of man."
Hidden Mountain Satanic quote: "Apostle Paul or Impostor Paul? Paul called himself an Apostle and seemingly taught a different gospel."
Matthew 7:15; Jesus says, "Watch out for **FALSE PROPHETS**. They come in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are **FEROICIOUS WOLVES**!.
2 Corinthians 11:12-15: For such people are **FALSE APOSTLES**, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve!
I John 4:1,4-6: Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God because many **FALSE PROPHETS**have gone out into the world!... You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the One who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore **SPEAK FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE WORLD**, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood!
2 Peter 2:1-3: But there were **FALSE PROPHETS** among the people, just as there will be **FALSE TEACHERS** among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will **BRING THE WAY OF TRUTH INTO DISREPUTE**. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories, Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping!
2 Timothy 3:1-5: But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--**HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT DENYING ITS POWER**.
I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH** the **LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD**. For all people {Like False Prophets} are like grass and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you!
Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD OF TRUTH**, the Gospel of your salvation.
James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!
John 17:17: Jesus says to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"
Titus 1:9: An elder must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE** and **REFUTE THOSE WHO OPPOSE IT!!
2 Timothy 3:16,17; 4:1-4: **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT**} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like **KHUTZPAH**} will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths!
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will **GLORIFY ME** BECAUSE IT IS **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**!
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fiving your eyes on **JESUS**, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!!
Acts 26:16-18: Jesus said to Paul, "I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a **WITNESS** of what you have seen and will see of Me. I will rescue from your own people and from the Gentiles. AI am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn fron darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who are **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"
Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has chosen you **TO KNOW HIS WILL**and to see the Righteous One and to **HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. You will be **HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD**!"
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to **ME** {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”
John 12:48: Jesus says, There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My Words {Like Acts 26:16-18 above}; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!!"
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE TO HIM** He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the unsaved} which ignorant unstable people {Like HiddenMountain} distort as they do other Scriptures, to their own destruction! {Eternal torment in Hell}
Yeshua kept the law...Paul kept the law and as to righeousness under the law, faultless . Peter called Paul a >>>>beloved brother<<<<<, soooooooooooo what conclusion do you draw from that?
Phillippians 3:6
Righteousness through Faith
…5 circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin; a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the law, a Pharisee; 6 as to zeal, persecuting the church; as to righteousness under the Law, faultless. 7But whatever was gain to me I count as loss for the sake of Christ.…
2 Peter 3:16
Final Exhortations
…15 Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16 He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing.…
You obviously have a big problem with scripture Chuckk/Quiznos/Khutzpa .
Moses and Paul did not have authority to write any new commands. The Father told Moses exactly what to write and Jesus told the holy spirit exactly what he should inspire Paul to write. And so Jesus is the **AUTHOR OF THE ENTIRE NEW TESTANEBT JUST AS THE FATHER IS THE AUTHOR OF THE ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT !!
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will **GLORIFY ME** BECAUSE IT IS **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**!
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fiving your eyes on **JESUS**, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!!
Acts 26:16-18: Jesus said to Paul, "I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a **WITNESS** of what you have seen and will see of Me. I will rescue from your own people and from the Gentiles. AI am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who are **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"
Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has chosen you **TO KNOW HIS WILL**and to see the Righteous One and to **HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. You will be **HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD**!"
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to **ME** {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”
John 12:48: Jesus says, There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My Words {Like Acts 26:16-18 above}; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!!"
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE TO HIM** He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the unsaved} which ignorant unstable people {Like HiddenMountain} distort as they do other Scriptures, to their own destruction! {Eternal torment in Hell}
In Numbers 12, Moses’ brother and sister, Aaron and Miriam, try to launch a revolt against his authority. They appear to have a reasonable complaint. Moses teaches that Israelites are not to marry foreigners (Deut. 7:3), yet he himself has a foreign wife (Num. 12:1).
God punishes them severely on Moses’ behalf. He reminds them he has chosen Moses as his representative to Israel, speaking “face to face” with Moses/Moshe.
But no body saw Moshe speak to Yahuwah..
Didn't Moshe also perform miracles by the power of Yah?
Seems Paul had a direct encounter with the same God.
Hmmmm.
And Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit and when he did He accompanied them and the Apostles did greater miracles than Him as prophesied in the first century.
The power of Christ, through Peter's shadow transmitting healing..
Pauls handkerchief to cast out devils ...
BUT the greatest of these was the conversion of souls.
3,000 souls were converted under one sermon by Peter.
The hearts of the Messiah's murders melt before Peters exhortation like wax to a flame.
Christ followers of the way had been enabled to do greater works through aid of His intercession.
KJVonly, you are not being intellectually honest. The fact that Paul was use by G-D does not prove "Apostleship". Many are used by G-D, are they all automatically Apostles?
Guiznos, Khutzpah and Hidden Mountain all make fun of saving **FAITH** and all the inspired writings of Paul. They do not believe that **FA ITH** and **ETERNAL LIFE** are **FREE GIFTS OF GOD** but that you have to earn your salvation by good works and following OT laws??
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**
**THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IS **FAITH** EXPRESSING ITSELF THROUGH LOVE**!!{Galatians 5:6}
Acts 26:17,18: Jesus said to Paul, "I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH**!"
Romans 1:17: For in the Gospel the righteousness of God is revealed--a righteousness that is **BY FAITH FROM FIRST TO LAST**!!
Romans 3:23-25: For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood--to be received **BY FAITH**!!
Romans 3:27,28: Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? **NO**, because of the law that **REQUIRES FAITH**! For we maintain that a person is **JUSTIFIED BY FAITH** apart from the works of the law!!
Romans 5:1,2: Therefore, since we have been **JUSTIFIED THOUGH FAITH**, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access **BY FAITH** into this grace in which we now stand!!
Romans 10:5-9: Moses writes about the righteousness that is by the law: "The person who does these things will live by them." {Lev 18:5} But the righteousness that comes **BY FAITH** says...The word is near you: it is in your mouth and in your heart, that is, the message concerning **FAITH** that we proclaim: IF you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your **FAITH** and are saved!!
Romans 12:3: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the **FAITH** God has distributed to each of you!!
Romans 14:23: Everything that does not come **FROM FAITH** is sin!!
2 Corinthians 1:24: We work with you for your joy, because it is **BY FAITH** you stand firm!!
2 Corinthians 5:6-10: We are always confident and know that as long as we are at home with the body we are away from the Lord. For we live **BY FAITH**, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So we make it our goal to please Him... For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad!!
Galatians 2:16: We know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but **BY FAITH** in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our **FAITH** in Christ Jesus that we may be **JUSTIFIED BY FAITH** in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law **NO ONE WILL BE JUSTIFIED**!!
Galatians 3:23-26: Before the coming of this **FAITH**, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the **FAITH** that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be **JUSTIFIED BY FAITH**. Now that this **FAITH** has come we are **NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVION OF THE LAW**. So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God **THROUGH FAITH**!!
Galatians 5:5,6: For through the Spirit we eagerly await **BY FAITH** the righteousness for which we hope. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is **FAITH** expressing itself through **LOVE**!!
Ephesians 2:8-10: For it is by grace you have been saved, **THROUGH FAITH**--and this is not from yourselves, it is the **GIFT** of God, not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S HANDIWORK**, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do!!
Ephesians 3:16,17: I pray that out of His glorious riches He may strengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts **THROUGH FAITH**!!
I Thessalonians 1:3: We remember before our God and Father you work produced **BY FAITH**!!
2 Thessalonians 1:3,4: We ought always to thank God for you, brothers and sisters, and rightly so, because your **FAITH** is growing **MORE AND MORE**....Therefore, among God's churches we boast about your perseverance and **FAITH** in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring!!
2 Thessalonians 1:11: We constantly pray for you, that our God may make you worthy of His calling, and that by His power He may bring to fruition your every desire for goodness and your every deed **PROMPTED BY FAITH**!!
I Timothy 1:3,4: Command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer... Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God's work--which is **BY FAITH**!!
2 Timothy 3:14,15: Continue in what you have learned and become convinced of...and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation **THROUGH FAITH** in Christ Jesus!!
Hebrews 11:1,3,6: So **FAITH** is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see...**BY FAITH** we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, in that what is seen was not made out of what was visible... Without **FAITH** it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He **REWARDS** those who earnestly seek Him!!
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, “The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!”
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Pioneer and Perfecter of our **FAITH**!!