Apostle Paul or Impostor Paul? In light of the words of YHSHUA in Revelation 2 about a false apostle and congratulating the church who figured that out ... Paul called himself an Apostle and seemingly taught a different gospel.. I expect to be hated for questioning this at all but if Christ thought it was important to know then perhaps we should consider Paul to just be another person like the rest of us who wrote letters to churches he did not even start, before You judge me on this please look deeply into it and pray for wisdom
A PATTERN emerges .... post same lengthy copy and paste over and over and then at bottom a quick short evil statement....{For the unsaved} which ignorant and unstable people {Like HiddenMountain} distort as they do other Scriptures, to their own destruction! {Eternal torment in Hell} .. kinda childish...in a sad way.. , well i guess i have found my new nemesis....DID NOT GET A CHANCE TO EVEN say hey, HELLO! well there you go...
This forum is being deluged and flooded with multiple **FALSE PROPHETS** in the last 6 months!! The newest one is HiddenMountain, then we have had Khutzpah, Quiznos, Chuckles, Sadlup, Zecharyah, ADAM7777 and Hark!!
They are all looking for an Satanic earthly kingdom instead of a Heavenly Kingdom?? They also do not believe that Jesus is our **GREAT** GOD** and **SAVIOR** and that the New Testament and all the books of Paul are not inspired by God???
Matthew 7:15; Jesus says, "Watch out for **FALSE PROPHETS**. They come in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are **FEROICIOUS WOLVES**!.
2 Corinthians 11:12-15: For such people are **FALSE APOSTLES**, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve!
I John 4:1,4-6: Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God because many **FALSE PROPHETS**have gone out into the world!... You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the One who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore **SPEAK FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE WORLD**, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood!
2 Peter 2:1-3: But there were **FALSE PROPHETS** among the people, just as there will be **FALSE TEACHERS** among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will **BRING THE WAY OF TRUTH INTO DISREPUTE**. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories, Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping!
2 Timothy 3:1-5: But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--**HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT DENYING ITS POWER**.
I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH** the **LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD**. For all people {Like False Prophets} are like grass and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you!
Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD OF TRUTH**, the Gospel of your salvation.
James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!
John 17:17: Jesus says to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"
Titus 1:9: An elder must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE** and **REFUTE THOSE WHO OPPOSE IT!!
2 Timothy 3:16,17; 4:1-4: **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT**} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like **KHUTZPAH**} will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths!
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will **GLORIFY ME** BECAUSE IT IS **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**!
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fiving your eyes on **JESUS**, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!!
Acts 26:16-18: Jesus said to Paul, "I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a **WITNESS** of what you have seen and will see of Me. I will rescue from your own people and from the Gentiles. AI am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn fron darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who are **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"
Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has chosen you **TO KNOW HIS WILL**and to see the Righteous One and to **HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. You will be **HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD**!"
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to **ME** {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”
John 12:48: Jesus says, There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My Words {Like Acts 26:16-18 above}; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!!"
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE TO HIM** He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the unsaved} which ignorant unstable people {Like HiddenMountain} distort as they do other Scriptures, to their own destruction! {Eternal torment in Hell}
I feel you have been misinformed about my brother ,Paul.
I would like to address all of your list of concerns but will take the time to address one that stands out in Revelation 2. I will skip to verse 8 and hopefully clarify what Chuckk had asked about previously concerning food sacrificed to idols and how he thought Paul was in contradiction of the scriptures.
In Yashua's rebuke to the church of Pergamos, some members followed the example of Balaam by introducing moral corruption into the church.
When Israel traveled through the desert, King Balak offered Balaam a handsome fee to curse Israel. Balaam soon discovered, however, that he could not command God to curse His people. When Balak offered more money, Balaam tried to change God's mind, but God commanded him to bless Israel. Then Balaam advised King Balak to draw Israel into intermarriage with heathen women and to commit idolatry (Numbers 22—25).
Unfortunately, it seems some members of the church at Pergamum succumbed to Balaam's sins by marrying unbelievers and engaging in idolatry. The Bible clearly prohibits the marriage of a believer and an unbeliever (2 Corinthians 6:14) and commands believers to avoid idolatry. In 1 John 5:21, the apostle John instructed: "Little children, keep yourselves from idols."
Yashua always looks at the intentions of the heart and In the book of Numbers it states that the men was ENTICED to fornicate with heathen unbeliever's and eat their food sacrificed to idols. In the context of 1 Corinthians 8 when Paul tries to keep peace among the brethren by imploring them to not be a stumbling block to the others who have a weaker conscience because they think meat in the >>>>>>>>>>marketplace <<<<<<<<<< may be sacrificed to idols would therefore corrupt them, he said it was better to not even eat meat in front of them if it causes them to fall. So my personal interpretation is that Yashua knowing the heart of man can guage if a person willingly fornicates with unbelievers and eats their meat sacrificed to idols VS. meat unknowingly , possibly sacrificed to idols in the marketplace. Like if you went to a butchers shop , would you know if meat was "corrupted"? But those men who fornicated with unbeliever's sure did! They knew the game. They knew they sinned. They were carnal and not spiritual is what I see,
Num 25:1
Baal Worship at Peor
1While Israel remained at Shittim, the people began to play the harlot with the daughters of Moab. 2For they invited the people to the sacrifices of their gods, and the people ate and bowed down to their gods.…
Rev 2:14
Revelation 2:14
But I have a few things against you, because some of you hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to place a stumbling block before the Israelites so they would eat food sacrificed to idols and commit sexual immorality.
thank you for your intellegent and sweet lengthy reply. Great spiritual meal u serve here.
Well said words, well written and true. The Rev 2 portion I was originally referencing is of course ...
Rev 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
Rev 2:3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.
Rev 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Rev 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Specifically this verse, Rev 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
On the surface, these statements first appear to be almost antichrist or muslim..lol... but with one's eyes of the leading of the Ruach Ha Qodesh we see that no translation is or can be now fully perfect. To assume that all words in scripture are divinely given is just silly. especially when folks start holding them up and using them as a "magical potion" to judge with. The Phasasses and Saduceesees had a clearer more exact view of the correct and perfect scripture quotes from first coven-net than we modern be-livers could ever conger up. Well even a child in Bible school knows how they (FAIR -US AND SAD-U-SEE) were blind to the Holy Son of all CREATION AND FLESH WALKING AUTHOR TO OUR SOULS, YHSHUA MESSIAH. There he was before them yet they with all their perfect tradition and translation were blind to YHWH.
All the scripture is of course amazing letter from our Father, yet it contains the words of known deceivers like Satan himself and folks like the misguided friends of RIGHTEOUS jOB.
YHWH being alpha and omega /aleph tau knew all things before even the fall of satan his, pack and possey of fallen angels. There are no mistakes in reality. There is a reason for all things set forth in creation.
The scripture should be seen in context and only the Holy Spirit can guide each individual soul to have it translated on to our hearts.
I live by the living word -YHSHUA abides in me and would abide in all who choose Him. Does that mean that everything I do, say or write is perfect..lol.. hahaha...
Yes scripture was and is inspired.. literally YHWH BREATHED ... yet we are silly to assume we should attack others with it, out of context and without knowledge of why and how it all makes sense in the end. YHSHUA chose Judas, YHWH LET SATAN INTO HIS GARDEN...there is an eternal perfect plan. He is still on His throne, yet we drown in a sea of deception.
Was Paul a liar? If Yeshua was referring to Paul as a false apostle and liar in the book of Revelation, how is it he was a liar? The claim of apostleship itself might be considered a lie... but in my thinking, the label "liar" implies a person who uses conscious intent to deceive. When Paul called himself an apostle, I believe he thought he was one. Therefore, I would have a hard time actually labeling him as a liar on those grounds alone. I would call him conceited and self-deceived. Interestingly enough, just by the way Yeshua states it, he appears to make the same distinction.
"And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars." Revelation 2:2
Notice that the idea of apostle is completely negated first and then the idea of liar appears to be in addition to the fact. So if Paul was the one Yeshua was referring to, I would expect him to be guilty of using conscious intent to deceive. Here again I would draw a distinction and not include the many errors he had in his doctrines because I’m sure he thought he was right. What I am looking for are outright bold-faced lies.
If Paul’s letters are the inspired and infallible word of almighty God, breathed through Paul by the Holy Spirit as Christian doctrine asserts, would it have been possible for Paul to have told an outright lie in them? I think not. So if he did, what would that by itself directly imply concerning the notion that his words are God’s words? Consider the following.
Paul and the Jerusalem Council
In the book of Acts, Luke records two separate trips Paul made to Jerusalem to discuss doctrinal matters with the head Messianic leaders Peter and James. The first incident is recorded in Acts 15. Here, as the story goes, there had been a disagreement as to whether the Gentile believers needed to be circumcised, so Paul and Barnabas were sent to Jerusalem to find an answer to the question. When they came to Jerusalem, the elders received them, and Paul told them of his work among the Gentiles. At this point, a group of believing Pharisees stated that it was necessary for the Gentiles to be circumcised and require them to keep the Law. This must have been the hot topic of the day, because it was just what Paul and Barnabas had been sent there to discuss. And it says there was "much dispute" among those who were at the conference. Then Peter speaks and makes reference to an event where he had been sent to the Gentile Cornelius, and he goes on to say these words.
"So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as He did to us, and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers or we were able to bear?" Acts 15:8-10
Here Peter is referring to the Gentiles and appears to be calling the Law an unbearable burden. Before going on to the subject of Paul, a couple of things need to be addressed in this quote because there are those in the Jewish community who can’t believe Peter or James would ever call the Law an unbearable burden. Some would rather charge Luke with dishonest reporting. As mentioned before, I see no reason to accuse Luke of malice. I believe Luke accurately recorded what he saw and heard. The people he quotes may have been in doctrinal error, and his own commentaries may have been made in Paul-induced ignorance, but I personally have a hard time with the notion that Luke was part of a grand conspiracy to destroy the Law. I see Luke as a very typical everyday person, a Gentile with honorable intentions. He also records events which end up convicting Paul as well as support him! When he is discredited as a reporter, nothing he says is reliable anymore.
The key to understanding Peter’s quote which appeared to call the Law an unbearable burden is to remember who started the argument and who he is addressing... the Pharisees. (see previous three verses. Acts 15:5-7) Even Yeshua called their idea of the Law a burden. He said:
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses seat. Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do. But do not do according to their works; for they say and do not do. For they bind heavy burdens hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers." Matthew 23:2-4
These words must have been echoing in Peter’s ears when he heard the Pharisees demand that the Gentiles keep the Law. He knew what their idea of the Law was... with all its added oral traditions… a burden! Yeshua kept the whole Law as found in Moses, and yet said these words.
"My yoke is easy and my burden is light." Matt.11:30 NKJV
Here is what the apostle John said about God's Law.
"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome." 1John 5:3
The true unadulterated Law of Moses is not unbearable. But Peter and James did not want the Pharisees dictating to the Gentiles their idea of the Law with all its traditions, additions and amendments. This is what Peter was referring to when he called the Law an unbearable yoke.
As the story continues, Paul and Barnabas tell of "the many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles". Then James begins to speak, and after a short speech says:
"Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood. For Moses has had throughout many generations those who preach him in every city, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath." Acts 15:19-21
Here James is endorsing dietary and sexual purity laws along with Moses in general. It is reasonable to assume that James intended for the four laws he outlined to be a kind of stop-gap measure, to keep the new believers from defiling themselves before they could receive the rest of the Law through the reading of Moses in the synagogues every Sabbath. The continued hallowing of the Sabbath is evident in that James uses the present tense word "being", and the attendance of the new Gentile believers to synagogue on the Sabbath is obviously assumed. The idea of "troubling" the Gentiles is his way of saying the Pharisaic laws were too much of a burden. The issue of circumcision is left up in the air. Again, it appears that James intended the new believers to be convicted when they heard Moses read in the synagogues and as a result, follow through with the rest of the Law including circumcision. This was his way of trying to keep as many of the factions together without unduly reproaching the believing Pharisees, and allowing for the Gentiles to receive a more unadulterated version of the Law.
The Messianic leaders then decided to write a letter to the Gentile believers. This was to be the official position on the issue, and it was given to Paul, Barnabas, and other leading men of the congregation who went with them to confirm its authenticity and see that it was delivered properly. The part of this official decision that we will focus on is the list of four immediate requirements concerning dietary and sexual purity laws. They are listed a second time in the official letter itself:
"…For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay no greater burden than these necessary things: that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell." Acts 15:28,29
Twice, these four requirements are listed in Acts 15. Later in the book, Paul returns again to Jerusalem, only this time he was in trouble for what he had been teaching. After a short lecture to Paul concerning what he had been hearing about him, James makes this statement.
"But concerning the Gentiles who believe, we have written and decided that they should observe no such thing, except that they should keep themselves from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality." Acts 21:25
There they are again. The same four requirements listed a third time.
The Lie
In Galatians 2, Paul makes mention of the same first trip to Jerusalem as mentioned above. It is obvious from the subject matter alone that it is a reference to the same Jerusalem council meeting.
First, let's take an overview of the subject matter of the book of Galatians.
Christianity fondly refers to Galatians as "the Magna Carta of spiritual emancipation". One reference says, "…it remains as the abiding monument of the liberation of Christianity from the trammels of legalism." It is evident to the reader of Galatians that Paul’s position against the Law is quite hostile. His intention is to convince the Galatian believers not to give the time of day to the "Judaizers" like Peter who were teaching the Law of Moses including circumcision. As mentioned in the previous chapter, Paul twice commands the Galatians to curse anyone who teaches anything other than his doctrine. Galatians 1:8,9 Among his numerous anti-Law (anti-nomian) arguments are these quotes:
"…for by the works of the Law no flesh shall be justified." Galatians 2:16
"But that no one is justified by the Law in the sight of God is evident…" Galatians 3:11
Deuteronomy 6:25 rebuffs these statements when Moses says: "Then it will be righteousness for us, if we are careful to observe all these commandments before the Lord our God, as He has commanded us."
"Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the Law…" Galatians 3:13
The law is not a curse, nor does it of itself bring one. Breaking the law brings a curse. Therefore it is man and not the Law that is the problem.
"Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole Law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by the Law; you have fallen from grace. Galatians 5:2-4
He even drops his own name as the foremost authority before telling the Galatians a doctrinal lie.
"For all the Law is fulfilled in one word, even this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself’". Galatians 5:14
This is only the second greatest commandment. Matt. 22:36-40 says; "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?" Yeshua said to him, "’You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and the great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." 1 John 5:3 describes how we are to fulfill the first and greatest commandment to love God with all our heart: "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome."
Galatians 5:11,12 He refers to circumcision as "the mutilation" in Philippians 3:2. His attitude toward the Law and those who teach it is obviously quite hostile. But the letter of the “ laws added to the commandments” Are they still “law”. Did not YHSHUA fulfill these and perfect them? And if we follow him do we not eat of the picked corn on the sabbath, we keep the sabbath when we walk with HIM, because we love HIM.
Now, keeping Paul's anti-Law rhetoric in mind, take a look at Paul’s recollection to the Galatians of his first meeting with the Jerusalem council.
"Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and also took Titus with me. And I went up by revelation, and communicated to them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles… But from those who seemed to be something—whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man—for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me. But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter… and when James, Cephas, and John who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. They desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I was also eager to do." Galatians 2:1,2,6-7,9-10
This is Paul’s version of what happened. When he said that the church in Jerusalem desired "only" that he remember the poor, how could this be anything less than an outright lie? Remember, Paul was forcefully trying to persuade the Galatians to not be circumcised or follow the Law of Moses. This is the foundational theme of the entire book. What's more, Paul was clearly telling the Galatians that he had Jerusalem’s full support... in spite of the fact that he didn't think he needed it from those who only "seemed" to be something and "added nothing" to him. In light of his message, he could not afford to tell the truth, that the official edict from Jerusalem included four requirements from the Law of Moses, three of which were dietary. So, he told them a lie.
And then after all this he personally circumcises Timothy! So, keeping all this in mind does one assume that all his words and doctrine are inspired and a new revelation/addition to the teaching of YHSHUA? Was Paul consciously deceiving the new be-livers. Does it matter today that churches follow Paul’s teachings as fully inspired words equal to and in addition to YHSHUA?
This forum is being deluged and flooded with multiple **FALSE PROPHETS** in the last 6 months!! The newest one is HiddenMountain, then we have had Khutzpah, Quiznos, Chuckles, Sadlup, Zecharyah, ADAM7777 and Hark!!
They are all looking for an Satanic earthly kingdom instead of a Heavenly Kingdom?? They also do not believe that Jesus is our **GREAT** GOD** and **SAVIOR** and that the New Testament and all the books of Paul are not inspired by God???
Khutzpah Satanic quote: "The notion that the Bible is the Word of God is a "slow-eating cancer".
Quiznos Satanic quote: The bible or book, is not the Word of GOD Almighty, but rather the translations of man
Matthew 7:15; Jesus says, "Watch out for **FALSE PROPHETS**. They come in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are **FEROICIOUS WOLVES**!.
2 Corinthians 11:12-15: For such people are **FALSE APOSTLES**, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve!
I John 4:1,4-6: Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God because many **FALSE PROPHETS**have gone out into the world!... You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the One who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore **SPEAK FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE WORLD**, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood!
2 Peter 2:1-3: But there were **FALSE PROPHETS** among the people, just as there will be **FALSE TEACHERS** among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will **BRING THE WAY OF TRUTH INTO DISREPUTE**. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories, Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping!
2 Timothy 3:1-5: But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--**HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT DENYING ITS POWER**.
I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH** the **LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD**. For all people {Like False Prophets} are like grass and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you!
Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD OF TRUTH**, the Gospel of your salvation.
James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!
John 17:17: Jesus says to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"
Titus 1:9: An elder must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE** and **REFUTE THOSE WHO OPPOSE IT!!
2 Timothy 3:16,17; 4:1-4: **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT**} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like **KHUTZPAH**} will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths!
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will **GLORIFY ME** BECAUSE IT IS **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**!
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fiving your eyes on **JESUS**, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!!
Acts 26:16-18: Jesus said to Paul, "I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a **WITNESS** of what you have seen and will see of Me. I will rescue from your own people and from the Gentiles. AI am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn fron darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who are **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"
Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has chosen you **TO KNOW HIS WILL**and to see the Righteous One and to **HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. You will be **HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD**!"
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to **ME** {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”
John 12:48: Jesus says, There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My Words {Like Acts 26:16-18 above}; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!!"
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE TO HIM** He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the unsaved} which ignorant unstable people {Like HiddenMountain} distort as they do other Scriptures, to their own destruction! {Eternal torment in Hell}
same ol cut and paste reply from the prophet, nice skills...oh and some original designated cut down shout outs to the hated ones who actually write posts .. mr T.. " i pitty the ... " ain't sayin.... just "sayin"
This forum is being deluged and flooded with multiple **FALSE PROPHETS** in the last 6 months!! The newest one is HiddenMountain, then we have had Khutzpah, Quiznos, Chuckles, Sadlup, Zecharyah, ADAM7777 and Hark!!
They are all looking for an Satanic earthly kingdom instead of a Heavenly Kingdom?? They also do not believe that Jesus is our **GREAT** GOD** and **SAVIOR** and that the New Testament and all the books of Paul are not inspired by God???
Khutzpah Satanic quote: "The notion that the Bible is the Word of God is a "slow-eating cancer".
Quiznos Satanic quote: The bible or book, is not the Word of GOD Almighty, but rather the translations of man
Matthew 7:15; Jesus says, "Watch out for **FALSE PROPHETS**. They come in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are **FEROICIOUS WOLVES**!.
2 Corinthians 11:12-15: For such people are **FALSE APOSTLES**, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve!
I John 4:1,4-6: Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God because many **FALSE PROPHETS**have gone out into the world!... You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the One who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore **SPEAK FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE WORLD**, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood!
2 Peter 2:1-3: But there were **FALSE PROPHETS** among the people, just as there will be **FALSE TEACHERS** among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will **BRING THE WAY OF TRUTH INTO DISREPUTE**. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories, Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping!
2 Timothy 3:1-5: But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--**HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT DENYING ITS POWER**.
I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH** the **LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD**. For all people {Like False Prophets} are like grass and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you!
Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD OF TRUTH**, the Gospel of your salvation.
James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!
John 17:17: Jesus says to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"
Titus 1:9: An elder must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE** and **REFUTE THOSE WHO OPPOSE IT!!
2 Timothy 3:16,17; 4:1-4: **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT**} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like **KHUTZPAH**} will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths!
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will **GLORIFY ME** BECAUSE IT IS **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**!
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fiving your eyes on **JESUS**, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!!
Acts 26:16-18: Jesus said to Paul, "I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a **WITNESS** of what you have seen and will see of Me. I will rescue from your own people and from the Gentiles. AI am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn fron darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who are **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"
Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has chosen you **TO KNOW HIS WILL**and to see the Righteous One and to **HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. You will be **HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD**!"
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to **ME** {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”
John 12:48: Jesus says, There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My Words {Like Acts 26:16-18 above}; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!!"
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE TO HIM** He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the unsaved} which ignorant unstable people {Like HiddenMountain} distort as they do other Scriptures, to their own destruction! {Eternal torment in Hell}
same ol cut and paste reply from the prophet, nice skills...oh and some original designated cut down shout outs to the hated ones who actually write posts .. mr T.. " i pitty the ... " ain't sayin.... just "sayin"...
hey i can cut and paste the same words reply to everything you post also... thanx for the idea. :D
This forum is being deluged and flooded with multiple **FALSE PROPHETS** in the last 6 months!! The newest one is HiddenMountain, then we have had Khutzpah, Quiznos, Chuckles, Sadlup, Zecharyah, ADAM7777 and Hark!!
They are all looking for an Satanic earthly kingdom instead of a Heavenly Kingdom?? They also do not believe that Jesus is our **GREAT** GOD** and **SAVIOR** and that the New Testament and all the books of Paul are not inspired by God???
Khutzpah Satanic quote: "The notion that the Bible is the Word of God is a "slow-eating cancer".
Quiznos Satanic quote: The bible or book, is not the Word of GOD Almighty, but rather the translations of man
Matthew 7:15; Jesus says, "Watch out for **FALSE PROPHETS**. They come in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are **FEROICIOUS WOLVES**!.
2 Corinthians 11:12-15: For such people are **FALSE APOSTLES**, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve!
I John 4:1,4-6: Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God because many **FALSE PROPHETS**have gone out into the world!... You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the One who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. They are from the world and therefore **SPEAK FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE WORLD**, and the world listens to them. We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood!
2 Peter 2:1-3: But there were **FALSE PROPHETS** among the people, just as there will be **FALSE TEACHERS** among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will **BRING THE WAY OF TRUTH INTO DISREPUTE**. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories, Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping!
2 Timothy 3:1-5: But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God--**HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT DENYING ITS POWER**.
I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH** the **LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD**. For all people {Like False Prophets} are like grass and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you!
Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD OF TRUTH**, the Gospel of your salvation.
James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!
John 17:17: Jesus says to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"
Titus 1:9: An elder must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE** and **REFUTE THOSE WHO OPPOSE IT!!
2 Timothy 3:16,17; 4:1-4: **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT**} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like **KHUTZPAH**} will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths!
John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will **GLORIFY ME** BECAUSE IT IS **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**!
And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!
Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fiving your eyes on **JESUS**, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!!
Acts 26:16-18: Jesus said to Paul, "I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a **WITNESS** of what you have seen and will see of Me. I will rescue from your own people and from the Gentiles. AI am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn fron darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who are **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"
Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has chosen you **TO KNOW HIS WILL**and to see the Righteous One and to **HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. You will be **HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD**!"
THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to **ME** {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”
John 12:48: Jesus says, There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My Words {Like Acts 26:16-18 above}; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!!"
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE TO HIM** He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the unsaved} which ignorant unstable people {Like HiddenMountain} distort as they do other Scriptures, to their own destruction! {Eternal torment in Hell}
