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Posted : 10 Jan, 2020 10:51 PM

Excellent post by Dr. Nathan Merrill

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 01:02 PM

Prophetic,



That applied to the priests who entered the Sanctuary.



Eze 44:16 They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge.



V.20 Neither shall they shave their heads, nor suffer their locks to grow long; they shall only poll their heads.



V. 21 Neither shall any priest drink wine, when they enter into the inner court.



In the next verse, which is inclusive, it mentions the priests again.



It would also be an issue for those who were Nazarites, such as Samson.



Judges 13:5 For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines.

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 01:40 PM

TOTH: Yes that is true, the command to not shave your heads or have long hair was for **PRIESTS** in the OT.



However in the New Covenant every saint is also a **PRIEST** as Per Revelation 1:6; 5:10; and 20:6



Revelation 1:5,6: To Him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by His blood, and has made us to a kingdom and **PRIESTS** to serve His God and Father--to Him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen!



And it also a disgraceful sin in the New Covenant for a man to have **LONG HAIR**



I Corinthians 11:14,15: Does not the very nature of things teach that if a **MAN HAS LONG HAIR**, it is a **DISGRACE** to him, but that if a woman has long hair it is her glory!



Ezekiel 44:20: They {Priests} must not shave their heads or **LET THEIR HAIR GROW LONG**!



Most New Testament theologians teach that you also must not let the hair on your beard grow long.



Beards are mentioned 5 times in the Old Testament and are not even mentioned once in the New Testament!

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 01:41 PM

Paul’s argument here is quite obscure. How is it that “by nature” women should have long hair and men short? And if women’s long hair is given to them instead of a covering [anti peribolaiou], why do they need to wear another covering over their hair, since their hair is already serving as a covering? Paul’s statement here appears to contradict his earlier argument.



Martin sees the key to resolving this issue in the term peribolaion in v. 15b. The word is traditionally rendered as some type of a head covering, whether a shawl or a veil. And the dominant semantic domain of this word is indeed a garment of some sort. But the semantic range of this word is much broader than that.



A passage from Euripides has Hercules complaining , “After I received my bags of flesh, which are the outward sign of puberty, I received labors about which I shall undertake to say what is necessary.” In this passage, peribolaia is used for “test-icles.”



Most of Martin’s article is an examination of ancient medical literature (largely from Hippocrates), in which the hair of women is functionally the same as test-icles in men. I can’t do justice to his full discussion of this, but the very short version is this:



Hair is hollow and grows primarily from either male or female reproductive fluid or semen flowing into it and congealing. Since hollow body parts create a vacuum and attract fluid, hair attracts semen. Hair grows most prolifically on the head because semen is produced, or at least stored, in the head. A man’s test-icles serve the function of weights; they keep taut the channels of the body allowing semen to flow from his head and be ejected. Conversely, a woman’s long hair serves to draw the semen up to her head, where it congeals into a fetus.



(I found it interesting that according to this ancient medical science women also have semen in their body, just less than men.)



If a man has long hair on his head, it counteracts the need for the semen to come down from his head and ejac-ulate. But if a woman doesn’t have long hair on her head, it adversely affects her fertility.



Appropriate to her nature, a woman is not given an external test-icle, but long hair instead. Since long feminine hair is conceived of as functionally equivalent to a man’s test-icles, in effect making such hair genitalia, it is essential that she cover her genitalia, her nakedness–IE her hair–when approaching God in prayer or worship.



We can all agree with the basic principle Paul was espousing, that genitalia should not be exposed in public worship. So the principle still stands. But of course, our understanding of the physiology of sex has changed dramatically since Hippolytus and the ancient medical writers. Since the reason for women covering their heads no longer obtains in our scientific worldview, the injunction is properly dismissed with today.

-TW Martin

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 01:47 PM

Chuckles who promised last week that he was leaving this Christian Form has **LIED AGAIN** and has come back to teach us more of his Satanic Garbage. Chuckles now claims that the Satanic Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons are his brothers in Christ.



**Chuckles teaches the following on this Christian Forum:



**JESUS IS NOT GOD**

**JESUS DID ELIMINATE ANY OT LAWS*

**THE BLOOD OF JESUS DOES NOT MAKE ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS^^

**THE 14 EPISTLES OF PAUL ARE NOT INSPIRED BY GOD**

**WE ARE STILL UNDER THE SUPERVION OF ALL OT LAWS** **WE ARE ONLY SAVED BY OUR OWN GOOD WORKS AND OBEYING OLD TESTAMENT LAWS**



**WE ARE NOT BORN AGAIN BY THE LIVING WORD OF GOD BY BY JESUS MYSTICALLY SPEAKING TO US** **ANY NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE WHICH CONTRADICTS THE ABOVE BELIEFS ARE **SPAM** AND ARE NOT INSPIRED BY GOD**



**CHUCKLES CLAIMS HE JUST WANTS ONE OF HIS THREADS TO BE FREE OF ALL CRITICISM BY PROPHETIC**



**AND YET CHUCLES HAS OPENED **15** OF THE LAST 30 THREADS WHICH TEACH HIS SATANIC BELIEFS ON THIS CHRISTIAN FORUM AND WANTS ALL OF THEM TO BE FREE OF CRITICISM BY PROPHETIC**



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S RKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!



Hebrews 11:1,6: Now faith is confidence in what **WE HOPE FOR** and the assurance about **WHAT WE DO NOT SEE**.. And without **FAITH** {A Free Gift of God} it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him **MUST BELIEVE** that He exists and that **HE **REWARDS** THOSE WHO EARNESTLY SEEK HIM!



Romans 3:23-25: For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood--to be received **BY FAITH**!!



2 Timothy 3:15; 4:1-3: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus {The Author of the NT}, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {The **ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Chuckles} will not put up with sound doctrine.



Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you!

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 02:38 PM

@prophetic

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 02:50 PM

There are about 2 billion 400 million Christians in the world. About 1 Billion 200 million Protestants and 1 billion 200 million Roman Catholics. About 500 million Protestants are called Evangelicals. Although there are many denominations within the Evangelicals they have share some important Biblical doctrines such as :



**Jesus is God**

**Only the blood of Jesus makes Atonement for our sins.

**The entire New Testament is inspired by God.

** Salvation and faith are free gifts of God

**We are no longer under supervision of almost all of the OT laws.

**There are many eternal rewards for faithful and loving service and obeying the NT laws of the New Covenant

**WE are all waiting for the Second coming of Jesus and are eternal home in the Hew Heavens and New Earth and the eternal New Jerusalem.



Satan and Chuckles hate and despise all the beliefs of Evangelical Christians,

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 03:29 PM

@prophetic,

Wrong thread Pastor Cue Ball 🥚

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I answered your post in the appropriate thread according to proper forum etiquette 😎

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 03:59 PM

There are about 2 billion 400 million Christians in the world. About 1 Billion 200 million Protestants and 1 billion 200 million Roman Catholics. About 500 million Protestants are called Evangelicals. Although there are many denominations within the Evangelicals they have share some important Biblical doctrines such as :



**Jesus is God**

**Only the blood of Jesus makes Atonement for our sins. **The entire New Testament is inspired by God. ** **Salvation and faith are free gifts of God

**We are no longer under supervision of almost all of the OT laws.

**There are many eternal rewards for faithful and loving service and obeying the NT laws of the New Covenant

**WE are all waiting for the Second coming of Jesus and are eternal home in the Hew Heavens and New Earth and the eternal New Jerusalem.



Satan and Chuckles hate and despise all the beliefs of Evangelical Christians

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 04:09 PM

prophetic,



This is my best understanding at this time, but I can't say I'm 100 percent studied on this matter, so feel free to share with that in mind.



My understanding is that is was a common pagan practice for them to shave their heads. Really any type of cutting/bloodletting or shaving their bodies. They did this to their pagan gods, and to honor the dead. So God's people were to be different. Just like the scripture that says do not wear different variations in clothing.



Lev 19:19 Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.



v.27-28 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.



David's third son, Absalom, was well know for being blessed with good looks and hair, but the Bible tells us it was necessary for him to shave his head every year because of its weight.



2 Sam 14:25-26 But in all Israel there was none to be so much praised as Absalom for his beauty: from the sole of his foot even to the crown of his head there was no blemish in him. And when he polled his head, (for it was at every year's end that he polled it: because the hair was heavy on him, therefore he polled it:) he weighed the hair of his head at two hundred shekels after the king's weight.





Micah the Morashtite, one of the OT minor prophets, was also instructed to shave his head and be bald.



Micah 1:16 Make thee bald, and poll thee for thy delicate children; enlarge thy baldness as the eagle; for they are gone into captivity from thee.



Additionally, we know Elisha was bald and he seemed to turn out just fine, even though he was naturally bald. He is the one who was mocked for his baldness.



2 Kings 2:22-23 So the waters were healed unto this day, according to the saying of Elisha which he spake. And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.



I think with the whole thing, just do your best to honor God in your choices with it. I know for women it is an adornment when worn modestly, but I think men can be fine with short or long hair in the right situation.



Here's one other scripture to think about.



Isaiah 7:20 In the same day shall the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, namely, by them beyond the river, by the king of Assyria, the head, and the hair of the feet: and it shall also consume the beard.

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Posted : 11 Jan, 2020 04:42 PM

TOTH: Yes that is true, the command to not shave your heads or have long hair was for **PRIESTS** in the OT.



However in the New Covenant every saint is also a **PRIEST** as Per Revelation 1:6; 5:10; and 20:6



Revelation 1:5,6: To Him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by His blood, and has made us to a kingdom and **PRIESTS** to serve His God and Father--to Him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen!



And it also a disgraceful sin in the New Covenant for a man to have **LONG HAIR**



I Corinthians 11:14,15: Does not the very nature of things teach that if a **MAN HAS LONG HAIR**, it is a **DISGRACE** to him, but that if a woman has long hair it is her glory!



**THIS NEW TESTAMENT INSPIRED LAW ERASES EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT!!!



Ezekiel 44:20: They {Priests} must not shave their heads or **LET THEIR HAIR GROW LONG**!



Most New Testament theologians teach that you also must not let the hair on your beard grow long.



Beards are mentioned 5 times in the Old Testament and are not even mentioned once in the New Testament!

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