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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 11:16 AM

I don't get modern "Christians". They put the writings of Paul as 100% equal to the rest of the Bible as the very words of GOD. If they find out a product, music, organization, company or logo has any ties to demons, gods or the illuminati most will immediately stop buying those products, stop listening to that music, and stop patronizing those organizations and companies.



There was a gentleman on this Forum who said he quit drinking Starbucks because of their demon, false god logo. This is what got me thinking. Modern Christianity has some sort of dissociative disorder.

Here is what Paul says about it:

"All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful,” but not all things build up. 24Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor. 25Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 26For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof.” 27If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience. 28But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, for the sake of the one who informed you, and for the sake of conscience— 29I do not mean your conscience, but his. For why should my liberty be determined by someone else’s conscience? 30If I partake with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of that for which I give thanks?

31So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God." - 1 Cor 10



I thought these people followed Paul's teachings? Paul says since those gods are nothing, you can drink Starbucks as long as it doesn't make your brother stumble. Why don't Paulineites follow what they preach?



Because maybe there is something deep down, subconsciously going on with modern Christians?

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 01:45 PM

"Chuckles you wrongly implied like Satan that the writings of Paul were not 100 percent inspired by God. So this post is very much on topic!!"

NO! You are making up stuff to SPAM and HARASS.

The question is: If Christians believe Paul's words are GOD's words, then why to they ignore some of Paul's words. Answer the question!



YOU ARE OFF TOPIC, SPAMMING AND HARASSING - GO AWAY

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 01:59 PM

Chuck,



Can you share one law that was uniquely introduced through Paul that Christians should disagree with?

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 01:59 PM

Many people go by the introduction as a Christian.



Thing is many are not born again, and follow whatever their mind tells them to.

Many Christians are walking in their Flesh.







Believers follow Jesus teachings. They are lead by Holy Spirit.

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 02:25 PM

"Chuck, Can you share one law that was uniquely introduced through Paul that Christians should disagree with?"

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TOTH, you asked for one. So let's keep it simple and choose one that is applicable to Christians: The permissive attitude towards meat sacrificed to idols is something Paul introduced. One might protest; the probation of meat sacrificed to idols is from the Torah and given to Jews. However it is re-iterated and confirmed by the Apostles at first Council of Jerusalem, Acts 15 (which was attended by Paul) and by Jesus speaking to the Churches in Revelation 2.

There you have it and with great and awesome exegesis many find a way to get around it.

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 02:40 PM

2nd Peter 3:15-16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the unsaved}, which ignorant and unstable people distort, {Like Chuckles} as they do other Scriptures to their own destruction {Eternal torment in hell}



Acts 22:24:15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has **CHOSEN YOU** to **KNOW HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and **TO HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. **YOU WILL BE HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE** of what you have seen and heard.



Acts 26:16-18: The Lord Jesus said to Paul, "Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you and **APPOINTED YOU** AS A SERVANT AND AS A WITNESS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME**! I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn then from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they my receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"



Acts 9:15: The Lord Jesus said to Ananias, "This man {PAUL} is **MY CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel!"



Here are some of Chuckles favorite **INSPIRED** Scriptures:



I Corinthians 9:21: I am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!



Galatians 6:2: Fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the {**OT**} law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE {**OT**} LAW!!"



*WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!



Galatians 2:14-16,20,21; 3:2,5,10-13;23-25: Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because **BY OBSERVING THE LAW **NO ONE** WILL BE JUSTIFIED**!



Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"



Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them."**CHRIST REDEEMED US FROM THE CURSE OF THE LAW** by becoming a curse for us!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is SET ASIDE because it was weak and useless; for the law made nothing perfect, and a BETTER HOPE IS INTRODUCED , BY WHICH WE DRAW NEAR TO GOD**!!



Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will **SOON DISAPPEAR**! {WHEN THE NEW AND BETTER COVENANT IS WRITTEN!}!



Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE, and it is **FOUNDED ON BETTER PROMISES**!



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH** day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found **IN CHRIST**!!!

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 02:49 PM

That's not stating a law though. He's telling them not to cause others to stumble. This was not just expressed by Paul, but directly by Jesus was well.



Mark 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.



Paul is doing the same thing. He's just telling them to be careful not to trip up each other. In fact, he clarifies in 1 Cor 8 that the meat itself isn't a problem, but not to do things that would cause others to stumble.



1 Co 8:4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.



1 Cor 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 03:07 PM

Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 02:49 PM



"That's not stating a law though."

(It doesn't matter, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about modern Christianity TAKING PAUL'S WRITINGS AS LAW. sorry for the caps, but I get soooooo tired of making this distinction. Quit making it about Paul!)





"in 1 Cor 8 that the meat itself isn't a problem"

(Oh really? From the beginning of the Bible to the end it talks about the life is in the blood, don't eat the blood. Animals sacrificed to idols were strangled and had the blood still them. GOD had a reason for giving this instruction.)

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 03:32 PM

Mark 7:18,19: Jesus says, "Are you so dull?" He asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared **ALL FOODS "CLEAN!" Then Jesus said: "What comes out of a man is not what makes him **UNCLEAN**. For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All theses evils com from inside and make a man **UNCLEAN**!"



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH** day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 04:07 PM

Every born from above believer believes every word of Pauline's epistles is the Word of God!!



Chuckles Satanic Quotes:



"Paul's advice should stand or fall on its own, rather than being declared words from the lips of God and therefore "New Commandments." "Paul's advice is not a New Commandment from God." "Who made Paul's words into God's word for all churches for all time???? "You have no Scriptural support to back your assertion that Paul can impose (new) Commandments as Moses and Jesus."

"Who gave Paul equal authority with Moses and Jesus to write new commandments?"



***NEITHER MOSES OR PAUL HAD THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE NEW COMMANDMENTS**!!



2 Peter 1:20-21: Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit!



God the Father inspired the 32 writers of the OT to write what He wanted them to write. Just as God the Father gave Jesus all authority in the New and better Covenant of faith and love.



John 16:12-15: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear . But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, an he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE WILL MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**! All that belongs to the Father is Mine. That is why I said the Spirit will **RECEIVE FROM ME** what he will make known to you.



Hebrews 12:2: Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTOR** OF OUR FAITH**!!**!!



Matthew 28:18-20: ! Therefore Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and earth has been given to **ME**! Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**{The entire New Testament}. And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age!



And so Jesus told the Holy Spirit what he should inspire the 8 writers of the New and better Covenant to write the New and Better Covenant which included about 400 New Covenant commandments all inspired by Jesus!!!



We know that Paul was martyred by orders of Nero Caesar in December of AD 66 and we know that Paul was inspired to write 2 Timothy the last of his 14 inspired books just before he ascended into heaven because of 2 Timothy 4:6-8: Paul said, "For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time for my departure is near. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race. I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the Crown of Righteousness!



All the other books of the New Testament except Revelation were written between AD 42 and AD 62 and had been distributed to most of the churches in the Roman Empire And so 2 Timothy 3:16: 4:1-3 included all the books of the Bible except Revelation:



2 Timothy 3:15; 4:1-3: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus {The Author of the NT}, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {The **ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Chuckles} will not put up with sound doctrine.



And in AD 96 Jesus added the book of Revelation to the New Testament which Chuckles treats like a fairy tale.



Revelation 22:16,18,19: I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone {Like Chuckles}**ADDS* anything to them, God will *ADD* to that person the plagues described in this book {Which will include eternal torment in hell as per Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone**TAKES WORDS AWAY** { Like the Preterists, Chuckles Sadlup, ADAM777 and Hark} God will **TAKE AWAY** from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The ETERNAL **NEW JERUSALEM**} which are described in this book!!



Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!



What did Jesus and the Word of God say about the Apostle Paul in Acts and in 2 Peter 3:15-16??



Acts 22:14-15 Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has **CHOSEN YOU** to **KNOW HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and **TO HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. **YOU WILL BE HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE** of what you have seen and heard.



Acts 26:16-18: The Lord Jesus said to Paul, "Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you and **APPOINTED YOU** AS A SERVANT AND AS A WITNESS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME**! I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn then from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they my receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"



Acts 9:15: The Lord Jesus said to Ananias, "This man {PAUL} is **MY CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel!"



Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!"



Chuckles &Satan claim the above 4 Scriptures that God inspired Luke to write are lies, thus making God a liar. These are definitely unpardonable sins which will earn chuckles eternal torment in hell.



2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, {Like Chuckles} as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!{Which would be eternal torment in hell}



John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one {Like Chuckles} who does not accept My words {The entire NewTestament} that very word which I spoke will condemn them at the Last Day!"



Galatians 6:2: **FULFILL THE LAW OF CHRIST**!!



Hebrews 12:2: Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the **AUTHOR** AND **PERFECTER** OF OUR FAITH**!

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Posted : 7 Jan, 2020 04:32 PM

Mark 7:18,19: Jesus says, "Are you so dull?" He asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared **ALL FOODS "CLEAN!" Then Jesus said: "What comes out of a man is not what makes him **UNCLEAN**. For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All theses evils com from inside and make a man **UNCLEAN**!"



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH** day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!



Lobster tail, Shrimp and Alaska King Crab are **YUM YUM YUMMY** and so good for the **TUMMY**!!

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