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Biblical Challenge! Habeas Corpus.
Posted : 2 Jan, 2020 03:56 PM

Habeas Corpus:

[we, a Court, command] that you have the body [of the detainee brought before us]"

A challenge!

To finding me a physical body (flesh , blood and bone ) who ascended bodily into heaven .

I only see Y'shua's incorrupt >>>flesh<<< ascending into Heaven.

Y'shua was asked about who gets to claim a wife who had 7 husbands in the resurrection to try and trip him up .

It was the resurrection of the DEAD in question so when Y'shua answered that they know not the power of God who is the God of the living that they will neither marry nor be given in marriage but be like the ANGELS of heaven.

So , I am wondering about the body (if any) we will have when we die as Elijah and Moses were transfigured along with Christ when they appeared before the Apostles while on earth.

Before the death of Moses, his face glowed while in the presence of Jehovah on Mt. Sinai and he had to cover it with a veil when he came down off the mountain.

Do you think we will have our same look but just in a glorified body ?. I can't see us as just orbs of light floating around like what is captured on film and called spirits of the deceased.

I think when we die , we go to heaven if we are saved and the same power that resurrected Christ will do the same for us . It was a guarantee in the first century, proving the Diety of Christ when God both raised Him from the dead along with other saints and other phenomena like the 4 inch thick veil/curtain being torn from top to bottom in the Temple, the darkness that had covered the earth for hours and an earthquake. Even an attending Roman soldier said, "Surely this was the Son of God"



There were other resurrections in the Bible..

Elijah and Elisha both raised a child /boy from death. 1 Kings 17:17 and 2 Kings 4:32

An approaching band of invading Moabites were advancing upon a burial party , so they decided to ditch the deceased body in Elisha's grave and when the corpses touched the person revives. 2 Kings 13:20-21

CAN YOU IMAGINE!!!

Which is why , sadly, I think Y'shua was looked at as just another prophet. His raising Lazarus was nothing unique to them and when He claimed He was God they called him a blasphemer.

Some say he did not die but only fainted. His plural cavity filled up with fluid and when the solider pierced him, he shed blood and water. That is how they checked for death. They knew exactly how long it would take and why Pilate was wondering if he had died so quickly.

In the words of Y'shua :

>>>>It is finished<<<<



* Enmity between God and man is finished

*Alienation form is God finished

*Sacrifices finished

*Penalty for sin is finished

*Now we learn to forgive as He forgave.

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Biblical Challenge! Habeas Corpus.
Posted : 4 Jan, 2020 09:16 AM

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I asked you a ON TOPIC question. Are you refusing to answer it?

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Biblical Challenge! Habeas Corpus.
Posted : 4 Jan, 2020 05:51 PM

Sorry..

Thought you was playing around .

I scroll past your posts to parrot also..

The Biblical challenge is find me a body that entered into Heaven other than Jesus.

Anybody , flesh , bone and blood.

Some say Enoch went into heaven, Some say Elijah and Moses also. I think I clarified in my other thread that they didn't so I was wondering if there was any others mentioned that I overlooked.

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Biblical Challenge! Habeas Corpus.
Posted : 4 Jan, 2020 07:13 PM

You might find a interesting rabbit trail in that "flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of heaven"king. And Jesus was said to be flesh and bone, not flesh and blood.

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Biblical Challenge! Habeas Corpus.
Posted : 4 Jan, 2020 09:27 PM

Yes, he said my kingdom is not of this world. He told Nicodemus that a man must be born of the Spirit to enter in.

We are in the world but not OF the world .

People seem to confuse this issue.

They can't see Christ reigning on earth because they look at it with carnal lenses.

Interesting that God who was invisible made everything visible but we as his treasured people are to look at the visible and see the invisible instead.

Not a coincidence to me. We are told to walk in Faith of which is it impossible to please Him without it.

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Biblical Challenge! Habeas Corpus.
Posted : 6 Jan, 2020 06:23 AM

**Chuckles teaches the following on this Christian Forum:



**JESUS IS NOT GOD**

**JESUS DID ELIMINATE ANY OT LAWS**

**THE BLOOD OF JESUS DOES NOT MAKE ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS^^

**THE 14 EPISTLES OF PAUL ARE NOT INSPIRED BY GOD**

**WE ARE STILL UNDER THE SUPERVION OF ALL OT LAWS**

**WE ARE ONLY SAVED BY OUR OWN GOOD WORKS AND OBEYING OLD TESTAMENT LAWS**

**WE ARE NOT BORN AGAIN BY THE LIVING WORD OF GOD BY BY JESUS MYSTICALLY SPEAKING TO US**

**ANY NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE WHICH CONTRADICTS THE ABOVE BELIEFS ARE **SPAM** AND ARE NOT INSPIRED BY GOD**

**CHUCKLES CLAIMS HE JUST WANTS ONE OF HIS THREADS TO BE FREE OF ALL CRITICISM BY PROPHETIC**

**AND YET CHUCLES HAS OPENED **15** OF THE LAST 30 THREADS WHICH TEACH HIS SATANIC BELIEFS ON THIS CHRISTIAN FORUM AND WANTS ALL OF THEM TO BE FREE OF CRITICISM BY PROPHETIC**



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!!



Hebrews 11:1,6: Now faith is confidence in what **WE HOPE FOR** and the assurance about **WHAT WE DO NOT SEE**.. And without **FAITH** {A Free Gift of God} it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him **MUST BELIEVE** that He exists and that **HE **REWARDS** THOSE WHO EARNESTLY SEEK HIM!



Romans 3:23-25: For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood--to be received **BY FAITH**!!



2 Timothy 3:15; 4:1-3: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus {The Author of the NT}, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {The **ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Chuckles} will not put up with sound doctrine.



Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.

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