Truly Chuckie boy has a forked tongue on this forum! We have MUCH to learn from him, as in the past by other names like "Zech" and "Sadlup" like dog stars and reincarnation for just two!
For Chuckie boy's "bible" says - "For to us a child is born King Hezekiah, to us a son King Hezekiah is given, and the government will be on King Hezekiah shoulders. And he King Hezekiah will be called >>WONDERFUL COUNSELOR<<, and >>MIGHTY GOD<<, ANNNNND >>**EVERLASTING FATHER**<<, ANNNNNND >>Prince of Peace<<.
Its sooooo WONDERFUL to have Chuckie boy here to help us understand The Bible!
Now if you don't mind Priest Chuckie boy, I would like to say a prayer to our King Hezekiah sitting on the right hand or power in heaven. OK?
Oh father in heaven, thank you for sending your "son" King Hezekiah to die for our sins, that comes from you, originally YOUR WORD before you put King Hezekiah in the flesh, born of a virgin, that never chose to sin and therefore knew no sin. That you and your "son" King Hezekiah are both one and the same called >>WONDERFUL COUNSELOR<<, and >>MIGHTY GOD<<,
ANNNNND >>**EVERLASTING FATHER**<<, ANNNNNND >>Prince of Peace<<.!!!!!!! AMEN!
You are engaging in systematic theology. This is NOT how Jews read the Bible.
It would benefit you to do some research on אֵל גִּבֹּור. Maybe you can use your strongs concordance or something, idk. But you can't pick whatever meanings suit your beliefs. You have to pick meanings that fit correct cultural context.
Isaiah 9:6--7: For unto us a **CHILD** is born, to us a **SON** is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor ,**MIGHTY GOD**! and **PRINCE OF PEACE**. Of the greatness of His government **THERE WILL BE NO END**. He will reign on David's throne and over His Kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness **FROM THAT TIME ON AND ****FOREVER****.
John 1:1-3,18: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Go, and the **WORD WAS GOD**. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that as been made...
No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!
John 20:27-29: Jesus said to the doubting Thomas, "Put your finger here in My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe!" Thomas said to Him, My Lord and **MY GOD**!" Then Jesus told
him, Because you have seen Me, you have believed, blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed!" {And so since Chuckles does not believe he is not blessed by Jesus!!}
Hebrews 1:6,8: When God brings His firstborn into the world He says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**.... About the Son He says, "Your throne, **O GOD**, will last for ever and ever, a scepter of justice will be the scepter of **YOUR KINGDOM**!"
Titus 2:13,14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!!
So Satan's followers all deceptively only say Jesus is lord but will never admit that Jesus is God like Chuckles.
"Judaism changed radically after the second Temple period. In Isaiah's day the King was God's representive on earth. Therefore considered as "Almighty God" is not a problem in the proper context." end quote.
Oh but Chuckie boy, you failed to mention that those "kings was God's representatives" in the form of >>EVERLASTING FATHERS<<.
Are you really that ignorant to think we are that dumb to NOT see your back peddling here and NOT read the context of your self made doctrine Priest chuckie boy???
Considering your attack on me, it is only is the spirit of christian love that I give you this gift of truth.
You say: "born of a virgin" I assume you are referring to Issiah 7:14. The word in Hebrew is NOT the word used explicitly for a "virgin" but a general word for "young maiden" (עַלְמָה - almah). If Isaiah wanted to explicitly use the word "virgin", he would have used the word betulah(בְּתוּלָה)
Chuckles comes to a Christian Forum teaching about 95 percent of what Orthodox Jews believe since he believes we are saved by doing good works and obeying OT laws. If anyone disagrees with his teaching Chuckles claims they are a racist ant-Semite, and an unrepenting **LIAR** who misuses and wrongly translates Scripture. He also hogs about 66.6 Percent of the new threads. Actually he is a terrible theologian and is only good at taking one out of context Scripture to prove his teachings. The only other thing Chuckles is good at is calling everyone who disagrees with his Satanic teachings, terrible names.
Chuckles now claims he is not **ANTI-PAUL**??? However, every born from above believer believes every word of Pauline's epistles is the Word of God!!
Chuckles Satanic Quotes:
"Paul's advice should stand or fall on its own, rather than being declared words from the lips of God and therefore "New Commandments."
"Paul's advice is not a New Commandment from God."
"Who made Paul's words into God's word for all churches for all time????
"You have no Scriptural support to back your assertion that Paul can impose (new) Commandments as Moses and Jesus."
"Who gave Paul equal authority with Moses and Jesus to write new commandments?"
***NEITHER MOSES OR PAUL HAD THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE NEW COMMANDMENTS**!!
2 Peter 1:20-21: Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation of things. For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit!
God the Father inspired the 32 writers of the OT to write what He wanted them to write. Just as God the Father gave Jesus all authority in the New and better Covenant of faith and love.
John 16:12-15: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear . But when he, the Spirit of Truth comes he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, an he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE WILL MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**! All that belongs to the Father is Mine. That is why I said the Spirit will **RECEIVE FROM ME** what he will make known to you.
Hebrews 12:2: Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTOR** OF OUR FAITH**!!**!!
Matthew 28:18-20: ! Therefore Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and earth has been given to **ME**! Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**{The entire New Testament}. And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age!
And so Jesus told the Holy Spirit what he should inspire the 8 writers of the New and better Covenant to write the New and Better Covenant which included about 400 New Covenant commandments all inspired by Jesus!!!
We know that Paul was martyred by orders of Nero Caesar in December of AD 66 and we know that Paul was inspired to write 2 Timothy the last of his 14 inspired books just before he ascended into heaven because of 2 Timothy 4:6-8: Paul said, "For I am already being poured out like a drink offering, and the time for my departure is near. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race. I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the Crown of Righteousness!
All the other books of the New Testament except Revelation were written between AD 42 and AD 62 and had been distributed to most of the churches in the Roman Empire And so 2 Timothy 3:16: 4:1-3 included all the books of the Bible except Revelation:
2 Timothy 3:15; 4:1-3: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus {The Author of the NT}, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** {The **ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT} Be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like Chuckles} will not put up with sound doctrine.
And in AD 96 Jesus added the book of Revelation to the New Testament which Chuckles treats like a fairy tale.
Revelation 22:16,18,19: I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone {Like Chuckles}**ADDS* anything to them, God will *ADD* to that person the plagues described in this book {Which will include eternal torment in hell as per Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone**TAKES WORDS AWAY** { Like the Preterists, Chuckles Sadlup, ADAM777 and Hark} God will **TAKE AWAY** from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The ETERNAL **NEW JERUSALEM**} which are described in this book!!
Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.
Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"
Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!
What did Jesus and the Word of God say about the Apostle Paul in Acts and in 2 Peter 3:15-16??
Acts 22:24:15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has **CHOSEN YOU** to **KNOW HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and **TO HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. **YOU WILL BE HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE** of what you have seen and heard.
Acts 26:16-18: The Lord Jesus said to Paul, "Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you and **APPOINTED YOU** AS A SERVANT AND AS A WITNESS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME**! I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn then from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they my receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"
Acts 9:15: The Lord Jesus said to Ananias, "This man {PAUL} is **MY CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel!"
Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!"
Chuckles &Satan claim the above 4 Scriptures that God inspired Luke to write are lies, thus making God a liar. These are definitely unpardonable sins which will earn chuckles eternal torment in hell.
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, {Like Chuckles} as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!{Which would be eternal torment in hell}
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one {Like Chuckles} who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken {In Acts 9:15 & Acts 26:16-18 above} will condemn them at the Last Day!"
Galatians 6:2: **FULFILL THE LAW OF CHRIST**!!
Hebrews 12:2: Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the **AUTHOR** AND **PERFECTER** OF OUR FAITH**!
Thanks for sharing the truth. I have read numerous posts from you and you seem spot on in your reasoning and ability to find perfect verses to support your comments.
If only we would all take that approach to study of the Bible!
It would benefit you to do some research on אֵל גִּבֹּור. Maybe you can use your strongs concordance or something, idk. But you can't pick whatever meanings suit your beliefs. You have to pick meanings that fit correct cultural context.
And as I told Little David:
You have to engage in Remez, Derash or Sod and then add some systematic theology to come up with your interpretation pointing to a Trinity.
Chuckie boy once again shares his inspiration with us as messy anic!
Quote - "You say: "born of a virgin" I assume you are referring to Issiah 7:14. The word in Hebrew is NOT the word used explicitly for a "virgin" but a general word for "young maiden" (עַלְמָה - almah). If Isaiah wanted to explicitly use the word "virgin", he would have used the word betulah(בְּתוּלָה)
End quote.
So what can we get implied here from Priest Chuckie boy?
That the Messiah could very well have been born from "young maiden" HARLOT according to Priest Chuckie boy! You see to say HE was born of just a general "young maiden" could mean any kind of young woman and that is implied THE MESSIAH had a earthly father!
You are NOT engaging in conversation, but wildly posting a plethora of scriptures with no explanations of what you mean by them. (Spamming) The only thing in your own words is character assassination. I gave you the REAL HEBREW TEXT to look up. You fail to respond but rather choose to hide the truth I'm offering by burying it in walls of repeated text. (Spam)
Therefore, our conversation is done, (unless you engage in conversation rather than spam). I ask you not to post any more spam on my thread. Modern Christians don't seem to follow the teachings of Jesus. Will you?