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Why do you think people are so MEAN in this Section???
Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 10:18 AM

This Forum Section is titled "Biblical Questions and Discussion" ---------------------------------------------------------------

Let's take a look at what that means and what it is supposed to look like -----------------------------------------------------

First off: If everyone believes the exact same thing what would there be to Discuss? If everyone had the exact same knowledge, why would anyone ask a question? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As a "Christian" site, this should be a SAFE place to ask questions, explore new perspectives and share with each other what we believe about things. A SAFE place among believers finding out what others believe about Scripture, how they read it and what they think about God.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sure, there will be heated debate at times, but as professing Christians, it should always be tempered with mutual love and respect. -----------------------------------------------------------------

But in REALITY, what DO we have here? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One member having literally no respect or regard for the conversation of others calls everyone "Satanic" and maliciously disrupts the threads of others ON PURPOSE. This is not an isolated incident, it happens on EVERY single thread, over and over. Is this faith expressing itself in love?-------------------------------------------------------------------

There is another member who claims to be very knowledgeable about Scripture, but instead of sharing his views, he spends his time and energy denigrating ALL other members in constant and unceasing tirades. It seems a person couldn't agree with him even if they tried. Is this the attitude Scripture teaches we should have towards others?-----------------------------------------------------------------------

There is another member who espouses flat earth doctrine and Textus Receptus only. Shouldn't she be respected and given the right to believe how she wants? She has been kind enough to respectfully engage in these topics helping others understand why she believes as she does. However she is under constant malicious attacks by others. Is this right? Is this unconditional love? --------------------------------------------------------

There are a couple of women who occasionally visit and post. They generally espouse the doctrines of main stream Christianity. They have no interest in exploring Academic Biblical views, treating such views with suspicion. They get a bit annoyed when their main stream doctrine is logically challenged. This is to be expected. But why would they come to a Biblical Discussion Forum if they don't want to explore different perspectives of other Christians? -------------------------------------------------------

Watch, and you'll see it all happen again on this thread. One will instantly start posting walls of Scripture with no explanation. Another will personally attack my character. One will agree, but be instantly attacked by another and then buried by another with a wall of unexplained Scripture. While two look on with disgust, contemplating whether or not to post. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

There is no Love in this Section. If God is Love, then God isn't here either. Yet since these people claim to be "Christians" the question remains: Why are people so MEAN here?

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 06:57 PM

KJO,



"I have people fresh out of seminary attacking me in private for being KJV only .,ahem, (textus receptus only in reality) "



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You do realize the "Textus Receptus" doesn't exist? Right?

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 07:18 PM

Those if the same mind are those who Believe and follow JESUS teachings.



All so called Christian are nit Believers. That's the difference in mindsets.

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 08:16 PM

I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!}



Acts 22:24:15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has **CHOSEN YOU** to **KNOW HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and to hear words from His mouth. **YOU WILL BE HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE** of what you have seen and heard.



Acts 26:16-18: The Lord Jesus said to Paul, "Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you and **APPOINTED YOU** AS A SERVANTAND AS A WITNESS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME**! I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn then from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they my receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"



Acts 9:15: The Lord Jesus said to Ananias, "This man {PAUL} is **MY CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel!"



Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!"



chuckles like Satan claims the above 4 Scriptures that God inspired Luke to write are lies, thus making God a liar. These are definitely unpardonable sins which will earn chuckles eternal torment in hell.



2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, {Like chuckles and Satan} as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!{Which would be eternal torment in hell}



John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken {In Acts 9:15 & Acts 26:16-18 above} will condemn them at the Last Day!"

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 09:27 PM

Chuckk quote:

You do realize the "Textus Receptus" doesn't exist? Right?

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Isn't that the Ben Chayyim Masoretic Text? a.k.a. the Hebrew Tanakh? Not the Kittel masoretic either that has been revised .

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Posted : 14 Dec, 2019 09:58 PM

Chuckk quote:

Take for example KJO, do you think God cares that she believes the earth is flat?

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Of course Chuckk!

Do you think HaShem cares if we believe what He created?

Doesn't it bear witness to WHO He is?

If we have the big bang as it is presented that nothing came from nothing but just banged together then we got evolution (from goo to you by way of the zoo), if we got evolution then we got alien beings in "outer space" who are called our space brothers, then you got Pope Francis saying he would baptize aliens. Then we got science falsely so called turning us away from truth and blinding our eyes to the true Creator. It's chaos.

What IF, just what IF the bible is correct and we are just on a flat earth with nothing more than an enclosed eco -system of plants, animals, water, mankind, sun , moon, stars and HaShem up on top of the firmament watching us ? Kind of changes it up now doesn't it? It's just Him and us.

You said you could see saturn's rings with your telescope. So is that what is causing you to not believe in just earth as a planet? What if it is just a unique star formation which the Lord named? Even Google said it appeared as a star but yet called it a planet. So , is Google God ? IS NASA God? NASA admits they never went to the moon!!. I have it from two sources. From their own mouths. They can't get past the Van Allen radiation belts. HA! so we never went to ANY planet then!

But don't believe me!!! Believe HaShem! Search the scriptures. Isaiah, Job and Genesis is a great place to start.

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Posted : 15 Dec, 2019 03:02 AM

KJO



The particular group of Texts known as the Textus Receptus from which the Geneva, Bishop and the KJ Bibles where translated have been lost to antiquity - they no longer exist. If they do, they haven't been found yet.

(not that it matters to me, I've gone much further back to know it doesn't matter. If it matters to you, be happy, don't let me rob your joy, its fine by me)



You write:

"What IF, just what IF the bible is correct and we are just on a flat earth with nothing more than an enclosed eco -system of plants, animals, water, mankind, sun , moon, stars and HaShem up on top of the firmament watching us ? Kind of changes it up now doesn't it?"



No, doesn't change things for me one bit. What ever exists, I believe God is the sovereign creator and ruler of it. I believe God sent Jesus making him a life giving Sprit so those who receive this life Spirit will transcend this physical dimension.

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Posted : 15 Dec, 2019 05:25 AM

I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!}



Acts 22:24:15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has **CHOSEN YOU** to **KNOW HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and to hear words from His mouth. **YOU WILL BE HIS WITNESS TO ALL PEOPLE** of what you have seen and heard.



Acts 26:16-18: The Lord Jesus said to Paul, "Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you and **APPOINTED YOU** AS A SERVANTAND AS A WITNESS OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WILL SEE OF ME**! I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn then from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they my receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"



Acts 9:15: The Lord Jesus said to Ananias, "This man {PAUL} is **MY CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel!"



Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!"



chuckles like Satan claims the above 4 Scriptures that God inspired Luke to write are lies, thus making God a liar. These are definitely unpardonable sins which will earn chuckles eternal torment in hell.



2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL ALSO WROTE WITH THE WISDOM THAT GOD GAVE HIM**! He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {For the Lost}. which IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, {Like chuckles and Satan} as they do other Scriptures to **THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION**!{Which would be eternal torment in hell}



John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken {In Acts 9:15 & Acts 26:16-18 above} will condemn them at the Last Day!"

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Posted : 15 Dec, 2019 10:04 AM

Prophetic writes;



chuckles like Satan claims the above 4 Scriptures that God inspired Luke to write are lies, thus making God a liar. These are definitely unpardonable sins which will earn chuckles eternal torment in hell.



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1) I never claimed any Scriptures were lies.



2) People who write as this, don't know God.



Prophetic, you have a spirit that is not from God.

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Posted : 15 Dec, 2019 10:55 AM

Chuckles and Satan make fun of of Justification by Faith and all of Paul's inspired writings???



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



**THE ONLY THING THAT COUNTS IS **FAITH** EXPRESSING ITSELF THROUGH LOVE**!!{Galatians 5:6}



Acts 26:17,18: Jesus said to Paul, "I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH**!"



Romans 1:17: For in the Gospel the righteousness of God is revealed--a righteousness that is **BY FAITH FROM FIRST TO LAST**!!



Romans 3:23-25: For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of His blood--to be received **BY FAITH**!!



Romans 3:27,28: Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. Because of what law? The law that requires works? **NO**, because of the law that **REQUIRES FAITH**! For we maintain that a person is **JUSTIFIED BY FAITH** apart from the works of the law!!



Romans 5:1,2: Therefore, since we have been **JUSTIFIED THOUGH FAITH**, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access **BY FAITH** into this grace in which we now stand!!



Romans 10:5-9: Moses writes about the righteousness that is by the law: "The person who does these things will live by them." {Lev 18:5} But the righteousness that comes **BY FAITH** says...The word is near you: it is in your mouth and in your heart, that is, the message concerning **FAITH** that we proclaim: IF you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your **FAITH** and are saved!!



Romans 12:3: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the **FAITH** God has distributed to each of you!!



Romans 14:23: Everything that does not come **FROM FAITH** is sin!!



2 Corinthians 1:24: We work with you for your joy, because it is **BY FAITH** you stand firm!!



2 Corinthians 5:6-10: We are always confident and know that as long as we are at home with the body we are away from the Lord. For we live **BY FAITH**, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So we make it our goal to please Him... For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad!!



Galatians 2:16: We know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but **BY FAITH** in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our **FAITH** in Christ Jesus that we may be **JUSTIFIED BY FAITH** in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law **NO ONE WILL BE JUSTIFIED**!!



Galatians 3:23-26: Before the coming of this **FAITH**, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the **FAITH** that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be **JUSTIFIED BY FAITH**. Now that this **FAITH** has come we are **NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVION OF THE LAW**. So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God **THROUGH FAITH**!!



Galatians 5:5,6: For through the Spirit we eagerly await **BY FAITH** the righteousness for which we hope. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is **FAITH** expressing itself through **LOVE**!!



Ephesians 2:8-10: For it is by grace you have been saved, **THROUGH FAITH**--and this is not from yourselves, it is the **GIFT** of God, not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S HANDIWORK**, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do!!



Ephesians 3:16,17: I pray that out of His glorious riches He may strengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts **THROUGH FAITH**!!



I Thessalonians 1:3: We remember before our God and Father you work produced **BY FAITH**!!



2 Thessalonians 1:3,4: We ought always to thank God for you, brothers and sisters, and rightly so, because your **FAITH** is growing **MORE AND MORE**....Therefore, among God's churches we boast about your perseverance and **FAITH** in all the persecutions and trials you are enduring!!



2 Thessalonians 1:11: We constantly pray for you, that our God may make you worthy of His calling, and that by His power He may bring to fruition your every desire for goodness and your every deed **PROMPTED BY FAITH**!!



I Timothy 1:3,4: Command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer... Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God's work--which is **BY FAITH**!!



2 Timothy 3:14,15: Continue in what you have learned and become convinced of...and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation **THROUGH FAITH** in Christ Jesus!!



Hebrews 11:1,3,6: So **FAITH** is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see...**BY FAITH** we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, in that what is seen was not made out of what was visible... Without **FAITH** it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He **REWARDS** those who earnestly seek Him!!



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, “The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!”



Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Pioneer and Perfecter of our **FAITH**!!

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Posted : 15 Dec, 2019 12:06 PM

Prophetic writes:

"Satan make fun of of Justification by Faith"



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You really don't understand do you?

You think this all a game?



This is one of Satan's favorite weapons against the self proclaimed Christian:



Just say you have Faith and you are justified before God.



Satan doesn't make fun of this, he is the author of your misinterpretation of Scripture!

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