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Admin	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 05:04 PM The Bible, the justice system and common sense dictates a person cannot testify on their own behalf. Therefore the Bible cannot testify on its own behalf.------------------------------ Since the New Testament did not exist at the time of its own writing, it is impossible for anything in the New Testament to testify about the New Testament. ----------------------------------- The Bible isn't a Book, but a collection of books by different authors. Therefore authors may testify for another book as long as they weren't the author of that book------------------- Where legitimate testimony exists, what is being testified to? For example Psalm 119 may testify about Torah; "the word is perfect" but that does not equate to inerrant, but rather, perfect for the job it is intended for.---------------------------- The bottom line is the Bible is a extremely valuable written record by and about the relationship with God.our physical and spiritual ancestors had. The Bible is a God inspired tool designed to bring us into relationship with the "Living Word" rather than bring us into relationship with a Paper Pope. Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 10:00 PM Chuckles, there goes that stupid spell check of mine again!! Try this again, Chuckk, there we go!! ok aaaahhh where and what's your argument?? Argument in the proper form means a logical construct consisting of a series of statements built on one another that lead to a valid conclusion. Emotional arguments arguments usually bypass references to facts and just say stuff that really doesn’t make sense Saying stuff isn’t the same as making since as you’ve shown Seems we’ve kinda tried to ride this old horse already with your bro, Sadlup—chuckk Post Reply
View Profile History	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 10:01 PM "Chuckles: Wehave severe disagreements on this forum but we all agree that the 14 books by Paul in the New Testament are all inspired by God and have ZERO ERRORS and all of Paul's commandments are also commandments of God. and all apply to the present day." Prophetic, That's great, but where is your written proof? ....that... 1) All 14 books were indeed written by Paul? (Phd Biblical Scholars think not, and for good reason). 2) Where is your written proof for "ZERO ERRORS"? (Phd Bibical Scholars think not) (Not even orthodox Jews demand perfect inerrancy from the TNKH) 3) Paul's Commandments are equal to God's Commands given through Moses and Jesus. (You are going to need explicit Scripture because ALL Scripture teaches to the contrary) Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 10:04 PM Chuckk let’s just cut to the chase. Which sin does Paul condemn that you love? Post Reply
KJVonly View Profile History	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 10:10 PM Chuckk quote: KJO; Both Luke and Paul are referencing the same Torah passage (Deut 25:4) "You shall not muzzle an ox when it is treading out the grain" End quote I knew you would catch that! ....so I waited .... Paul attributes Deut.25:4 when he quoted this Old Testament verse to Timothy, along with the other phrase, “the laborer is worthy of his wages.” to “Scripture.” Neither Paul nor Luke were among the 12.. Yet the writings of both of them are called Scripture by other New Testament writers. Thus, from these two passages, we have the letters of Paul, and the writings of Luke (Luke/Acts) considered Scripture. Since the word Scripture is used, it refers to something written. There is no example of oral tradition being called Scripture. The word Scripture, when used in the New Testament, always refers to something written. Peter acknowledged the writings of Paul were considered to be Holy Scripture. Paul quoted a saying of Jesus from Luke’s gospel and called it Scripture. Sooo...the idea of adding new Scripture, apart from the Old Testament, was already occurring in the early years of the church. Post Reply
View Profile History	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 10:12 PM Little David, What argument? Sure we disagree,(that's fine by me), I'm just asking you to prove your beliefs. The answers being received so far are out of context, interpolation, or anachronisms, Therefore unacceptable as proof. When Torah is explicit: Torah is not be added to except by Messiah. The burden of proof is on you to show Paul has the authority to add Commands to Torah. Post Reply

View Profile History	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 10:17 PM Little David; "Chuckk let’s just cut to the chase. Which sin does Paul condemn that you love?" Wow, that doesn't even deserve an answer. But I'll go the extra mile for you. My answer is; I can't think of one. However there are times Paul approves of things that I see Scripture condemns as sin. Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 10:27 PM Chuckk, That’s a perfect “round about non-answer” to a question that no one is asking! Post Reply
View Profile History	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 10:27 PM KJO, Scripture means "writings" - that's all no more, no less. Holy means "separate" Together it means: Writings which have been separated from other writings, implying authoritative-ness. Therefore when you say: "Peter acknowledged the writings of Paul were considered to be Holy Scripture" You have misread the verse, subconsciously adding the word (holy) to match a preconceived (miss)understanding of the passage. Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 10:32 PM Since Paul has made it clear he is not against God’s law, it would seem that your contention he somehow opposes the law is just an unsuccessful allegation. So I ask, what is usually the motive behind an unsubstantiated false accusation ?? For example, why did the Jewish religious leaders FALSELY ACCUSE Jesus of stuff they couldn’t prove?? Post Reply
View Profile History	What is: "The Bible"? Posted : 10 Dec, 2019 10:32 PM Come on David; a man sporting such a fine beard should exhibit more integrity. I answered your question perfectly. Here is the answer again: There is no sin Paul condemns that I love. (that I currently can think of) How much more explicit can I be? Post Reply