Talking theology over beer?? Worldly or not worldly?
Posted : 3 Dec, 2019 11:23 PM
Would you follow or listen to a teacher/preacher who promoted or thought it was ok to have a beer tasting fund raiser for a church plant and also promoted tattoos?
The Wiccan symbol- that one of the men claim is the "trinity godhead".
From https://www.ancient-symbols.com/symbols-directory/triquetra.html
An ancient Celtic symbol, the triquetra is considered one of the oldest; dating back to as early as 500 BC when it was used to symbolize the triple goddess (maiden-mother-crone). Over the centuries it has become the symbol for the Holy Trinity among Christians in Ireland. The symbol is often used to represent the 3 fundamental elements – air, water, and earth or the infinite cycle of life. It is also known as a rune of protection.
NOW let's see what Dr. James White says of Alpha and Omega ministries.
https://twishort.com/4X5kc
In short, he says " My sons and some brothers have all gotten the symbol, as it >>speaks<< to us of the >>lordship of Christ. "<<<
Interesting that this image speaks!
Very interesting Dr. White!
Since my bro LittleDavid follows him and "sits at his feet" I wonder if he has anything to say . ?
He has asked me to find ANY catholic affiliations and Norman Geisler is a Catholic friend of Whites. I have Catholic friends so that didn't really count although Geisler promoted White's book on the cover of White's KJV onlyism conspiracy books..and the KJV is supposed to be Catholic in origin ! But then again Jesuits have to take an oath to speak against their own mother church as a deception tactic. Ummm...think we need to look at the fruit of men here as the bible say we shall know them.
The 27th edition of the Nestle-Alland clearly states on page 45 and I quote: "The VATICAN and the United Bible Societies it has served as the basis for NEW translations and for REVISIONS made under THEIR supervision" (emphasis mine) Who is United Bible Societies?
Check out the PDF! I had a Catholic heart on it! (sacred heart of mary and or jesus) Hidden in plain sight!
Talking theology over beer?? Worldly or not worldly?
Posted : 5 Dec, 2019 09:10 PM
Prophetic Parrot quote:
Your **FLAT EARTH ** fairy tale is only for the **BRAIN DEAD**!!
End quote
Isaiah had the word for BALL in Isaiah 22:18 . He had the word for BALL but used the word>>> CIRCLE<<< for the earth which has a FACE.
Told you there was a difference!
New International Version
He will roll you up tightly like a BALL and throw you into a large country. There you will die and there the chariots you were so proud of will become a disgrace to your master's house.
King James Bible
He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house.
“Perhaps you think having a beer is ‘worldly’? Or that going to a pub to have a drink to have a drink is ‘worldly’? I respect your opinion and tradition. I strongly disagree with you and do so on the basis of the word of God,” he said.
Jeremiah Roberts, an Apologia member, recently noted in online comments that the congregation was “90% drug addicts coming out of rehab” at its inception.
Durbin also took to Facebook this week to outline that he does not seek to be “cool,” and that the only time he promotes the fruit of the vine in church is during communion.
“I confess, every Sunday might qualify us as ‘regular drinkers.’ We call it: C-O-M-M-U-N-I-O-N. I confess to pushing alcohol in this context. I confess to trying to get everyone to drink. And I do not repent,” he quipped."
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Ok, I used to believe that all wine was the same but it is not. A neighbor of mine corrected me several years ago. Jesus did NOT drink fermented wine, especially during the last supper. It was basically grape juice i,e, the fruit of the vine .
So if most of the church members are recovering addicts as stated, then they are in effect whether intended or not, to promoting alcohol under the guise of communion. Doesn't seem to help their situation does it?
From an article with link below
In part:
How Is Bread Leavened?
Leavened bread has undergone a fermentation process which requires time. It is the decomposition of living organisms when yeast and bacteria inside the dough convert the natural carbohydrates in the wheat to carbon dioxide. This causes gas bubbles to form, which fill up with air and cause the bread to rise. This fermentation process is very similar to wine and beer and is why some people think that baking fresh bread smells like beer.
So if God forbid the Israelites to eat fermented bread at Passover — Do you think He would want them to drink fermented grape juice — alcoholic wine?
The Last Supper
Jesus, on the night of His betrayal, took the unleavened bread, motzah, and blessed it and brake it, saying, “This is my body which is broken for you; eat this in remembrance of me.” If you have ever looked at a whole piece of motzah, you saw that it has stripes and small holes throughout. Messianic Jews see these as the 39 stripes on Jesus’ back that He bore for our physical healing, and the piercings He suffered when nailed to the cross as prophesied by Isaiah: “He was wounded for our transgressions; he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him, and by his stripes we are healed” (Isa.53:5). Peter looking back at Pilate’s whipping post: “And by his stripes you were healed.” (1Pet.2:24).
Then Jesus took the cup and blessed it, saying, “This is my blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom” (Matt.26:26-29, 1Cor.11:23-25).
Talking theology over beer?? Worldly or not worldly?
Posted : 6 Dec, 2019 06:44 AM
Mark7:18-23:
Jesus says, "Don't you see that nothong that enters a person from the outside can defile them. For it doesn't go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body!" In saying this declared **ALL FOODS CLEAN**. Then Jesus said, " What comes out of a man is what makes him **UNCLEAN**! For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts , sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man **UNCLEAN**!"
Colossians 2:16,17: Do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH** day. These are a **SHADOW** of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found **IN CHRIST**!
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who **DOES NOT ACCEPT MY WORDS**; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!"
Talking theology over beer?? Worldly or not worldly?
Posted : 6 Dec, 2019 10:51 AM
Wine was not "grape juice." Even looking at the scripture, it indicates it was actual wine.
It was a normal tradition at feasts to serve the best wine (fermented) first, because as you drink wine, the quality of wine is masked due to the nature of the wine. Of course the same is true today. So the fact that the ruler of the feast questioned why the better wine was served last indicates it was fermented. If it was just grape juice (non-fermented), it wouldn't have matter if better grape juice was served last. He would've had no reason to even care.
John 2:10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now.
Talking theology over beer?? Worldly or not worldly?
Posted : 6 Dec, 2019 02:56 PM
Christians can drink wine but must not get drunk on anything!!
Corinthians 6:9-11: Do not be deceived : Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor **DRUNKARDS** nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were, but you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God!
Talking theology over beer?? Worldly or not worldly?
Posted : 8 Dec, 2019 04:46 PM
Everything I've ever been taught is that when Jesus instituted communion He was holding a cup on wine. Jesus made water into wine. Paul exhorted Timothy to drink a little wine for his stomach. There is nothing wrong with a little bit of alcohol. Of course the Bible warns against getting drunk. I personally don't drink alcohol outside of the smidge at communion and a sip or two here and there, but that's because alcohol bad to me and I take medication that requires me to be extra careful with it.
