The NASB is widely regarded as the most literally translated of 20th century bible translations. It is a revision of the ASV of 1901. of which The Amplified Bible (published by the Lockman Foundation) is based on the American Standard Version of that same year. This translation was a alternative of the RSV, itself a revision of the ASV. Still with me? What a brain twister.The Hebrew text used for this translation was the Kittel Biblia Herbraica and the dead sea scrolls.The ben Asher text was adopted by Kittel for his third edition of Biblia Hebraica in 1937. The Ben Asher uses the Leningrad Manuscript or codex. The codex was copied in Cairo from manuscripts written by Aaron ben Moses ben Asher. It has been claimed to be a product of the Asher scriptorium itself; however, there is no evidence that Asher ever saw it. In its vocalization system (vowel points and cantillation) it is considered by scholars to be the most faithful representative of ben Asher's tradition apart from the Aleppo Codex (edited by ben Asher himself). Its letter-text is not superb, however, and contradicts it's own masoretic apparatus in many hundreds of places. The Biblia Herbraica was consulted for the 1995 revision. For Greek, Eberhard Nestle's Novum Testamentum Graece was used. The 23rd edition of the 1971 original and the 26th in the 1995 revision. From Nestle Allands website: Nestle took the three leading scholarly editions of the Greek New Testament at that time by Tischendorf, Westcott/Hort and Weymouth as a basis. (After 1901 he replaced the latter with Bernhard Weiss 1894/1900 edition.) Where their textual decisions differed from each other Nestle chose for his own text the variant which was preferred by two of the editions included, while the variant of the third was put into the apparatus.
Rudolph Kittels Biblia Hebraica, the Greek text of Westcott and Hort, and the 23rd edition of the Nestle Greek New Testament as well as the best Hebrew and Greek lexicons available at the time.Cognate languages,Tischendorf. the Dead Sea Scrolls, and other Greek works were also consulted.as you can see it is a soupy mix. Note how prominently the ESV acknowledges this text in its introduction:
The ESV is based on the Masoretic text of the Hebrew Bible as found in Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia (2nd ed., 1983), and on the Greek text in the 1993 editions of the Greek New Testament (4th corrected ed.), published by the United Bible Societies (UBS), and Novum Testamentum Graece (27th ed.), edited by Nestle and Aland. The currently renewed respect among Old Testament scholars for the Masoretic text is reflected in the ESV’s attempt, wherever possible, to translate difficult Hebrew passages as they stand in the Masoretic text rather than resorting to emendations or to finding an alternative reading in the ancient versions. In exceptional, difficult cases, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Septuagint, the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Syriac Peshitta, the Latin Vulgate, and other sources were consulted to shed possible light on the text, or, if necessary, to support a divergence from the Masoretic text.
Who are Westcott and Hort? After their deaths , their Sons published their personal letters which are still available on Amazon. They were evolutionists, did not believe Jesus was equal with God, they believed that man is divine, no bodily resurrection of Jesus, Heaven was just a state and not a place, that scripture is not inspired and therefore not infallable just to name a few.
It is no surprise that although both men were liberal anglican bishops, they hid their secret unitarian views because only members of the church of England could be college professors or hold a government job. This was revealed with the publication of their private letters. As we proceed you will notice that the modern bibles do not exalt the Lord Jesus Christ.
The KJV onlyism movement just points out the corruption of the modern bibles , they are not responsible for people's unbelief, this is due to the corrupt translations. Even some textual critics themselves have lost their faith, like Bart Ehrman who now writes books about the bible in an effort to make other people become agnostic like him. What about Kittel? Rudolph Kittel's son Gerhard was a theologian to Hitler. Gerhard Kittel, eliminated mention of the special role of the Jewish people.To update it he oversaw changes to words such as “Messiah” and “hallelujah”, and renamed “Jerusalem” as the ‘eternal city of God’. ‘Honour your Fuhrer and master’ and ‘keep your blood pure and your honour holy’ were added to the 10 commandments.
Importantly, during the 1930s both Kittels are said to have hailed Hitler’s rise to power as “a blessing from God”. Both became highly influential in intellectual circles in Germany. In fact, the younger Kittel became Hitler’s “high priest” of religious propaganda, providing the “theological basis” for resolving the “Jewish question”. Robert P. Ericksen, author of Theologians Under Hitler (New Haven, Yale University Press 1985 pp 45, 207, 86-88), who received the 1987 Merit of Distinction Award from the International Centre for Holocaust Studies for this work, wrote that Gerhard Kittel’s writings between 1937 and 1945 were highly instrumental in causing the death of millions of Jews in Germany and the territories it conquered in the Second World War. 'He established a solid ‘Christian’ foundation for opposition to the Jews’. Kittel also proclaimed himself “the first authority in Germany on the scientific consideration of the Jewish question”. Ericksen records: Kittel and a group of twelve leading theologians and pastors issued a proclamation that Nazism is ‘a call of God’ and they thanked Adolf Hitler
As we progress, you will see by a careful comparison of scriptures that there are some changes and omissions that should be considered as you weigh this matter of what bible to choose to use for study.
KJVonly slams Kittel for his early associations with Hitler but seems to avoid King James well known homosexual love escapades with young men.
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Objection!
That rumor started 15 years AFTER King James Died! WOW! David . King James was no saint but he was a God fearing man. Check out his books he wrote on Witch hunting. What about his bedroom ?? The most secure place has to be there. Guards are around it. He leaned on people because of an infirmity and caused filthy minded people to suggest as much. He also lifted up the worth of his own wife! Even if he was a devil. They gave the name King James to the Authorized Version in the 1800's. He wanted it to be THE version to be used in churches. So it was not HIS bible with HIS name in 1611. You sure do surprise me David. I am curious to see more things come to light to be exposed .
As to Wycliffe mentioned earlier, I forgot he supervised the latin vulgate translation and was only included in the TR link I gave for example .
KJVonly darling apparently has not read the early history of the very turbulent first 80 years of the brand new KJV.
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Darling...well, aren't you dripping with sarcasm tonight. First time I heard such sweet sentiments from you.
I must be on the right track.
Seems the KJV was the default bible for 250 years! YES! it was quite dominate in fact. Even Prime Minister Winston Churchill praised it as a lasting monument to the genius of English speaking peoples ! The KJV shaped his writing style, and his speeches were punctuated with scriptural references. One one occassion in 1911 when he was hoping to be appointed First Lord of the Admiralty, he confessed to his wife that he feared he may not be chosen.She was confident he would be quoting Psalms 107:23-24 They that go down to the sea in ships , that do business in great waters; they see the works of the Lord, and his wonders in the deep. Indeed he was chosen.
KJVonly darling apparently has not read the early history of the very turbulent first 80 years of the brand new KJV.
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I know the Jesuits and RCC did not like the Authorized 1611 bible. King James was almost executed in the gunpowder plot by Guy Fawkes , a Jesuit. Because of the Reformation in the dark ages, the RCC was going broke. Michelangelo was painting the Sistine Chapel and indulgences were starting to only trickle in as people left the RCC. The RCC would charge $1.50 to wipe away sins of abortion. That was alot of money back then!!! In 1930 the cost of bread in America was 9 cents! Gas was 10 cents a gallon.
KJVonly slams Kittel for his early associations with Hitler but seems to avoid King James well known homosexual love escapades with young men.
KJVonly easily maneuvers about on the advantage of a 20/20 hindsight perspective gained from looking BACK on history.
But those who thought Hitler was a good guy in the beginning didn’t have that historical perspective written out for them. It seems bad leaders like to fool people, ya know. And sometimes ya just don’t know right off!
KJVonly also conveniently overlooks the association certain biblical characters had with bad kings and rulers.
So using KJV-only’s logic, we better just throw out all Bibles everywhere and just become atheists—I guess, because some Bible characters were being bad
But it seems these godly biblical characters might just have hoped to influence the leaders in a godly way. Perhaps Kittel was attempting the same thing.
Oh, wait, we mustn’t grant anyone the benefit of the doubt, especially if they had anything to do with an “evil” modern translation.
BUT WAIT A MINUTE!!
! WAAAAIT AAAA MINUTE!!
Didn’t Kittle promote the KJV ???!!!
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And what James White book did this come from??? Could it be the KJ only conspiracy book? Thought you were not into conspiracies David! This same book that White's Jesuit friend Norman Geisler promoted on the cover?? Geisler, who founded the Veritas International University which also promotes the Trinity in their doctrinal statement just like the Catholics. https://viu.ves.edu/doctrinal-statement/
(VIU affirms the Apostle’s, Nicene, and Athanasian Creeds) just like I recited in the Catholic church!!
Oh but wait , you say, White debates Catholics...! How dare you tarnish my teacher!!! But what did we find with Kittel's Son who started a "Christian" foundation for opposition to the Jews when he promoted an answer to the Jewish question?. The hidden masonic hand should never let the other one know what the other is doing. LOOK at the bad fruit David!. White promotes the NASB and opposes the KJV Inside White's book on the KJV controversy, it has some words in latin a few pages before the contents and below the latin words, it has the Triquatra, a Wiccan symbol...interesting!!!! On another of his books called the Forgotten Trinity, he has the same symbol on the cover. You may as well be reading the DaVinci code for "truth". AND in the 27th editon of the Nestle-Alland which the modern version use( Yes, even the NKJV is corrupt now) , page 45, it states and I quote VERBATIM: "The texts by these two editIons was adopted internationally by Bible Societies, and following an agreement between the VATICAN AND THE UNITED BIBLE SOCIETIES it has served as the basis FOR NEW TRANSLATIONS and for REVISIONS MADE UNDER THEIR SUPERVISION" The bible says: "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them!" (Ephesians 5:11) The modern translations are riddled with soupy mixes of questionable sources and men! A magicians sleight of hand with confusion of which God is not the Author of.
I will stick to my 1611 KJV, Tyndale and Geneva Bibles thank you~
The mission of SES is to train men and women, based on the inerrant and infallible written Word of God, for the >>>>evangelization of the world<<<< and defense of the historic Christian faith.
The goal of the Roman Catholic Church has been to bring people back under their authority since the Reformation.
Notice the word defense...yes the RCC has been under an attack for quite some time...I thought we were to contend for the Faith?
I do not hate Catholics. I married one. I never converted. I have catholic acquaintances. I just don't agree with the doctrine. For instance they teach that "Mary" is a perpetual virgin when the bible lists more children after Jesus. She is a Goddess in disguise. She is also called a Mediatrix . They teach transubstantiation. That the host wafer can be changed into the >>>literal<<< body of Christ. That is cannibalism. It is not symbolic . During Lent , on Ash Wednesday, you get ashes on your forehead or hand in the symbol of a cross. You can tell when people have been to mass because they don't always wash it off and walk around town with it on their forehead.
Ridiculous quote by KJVonly who also believes in the **FLAT EARTH**:
"The one true God has **ONE TRUE BOOK** {KJVonly}
There are certainly some errors in all of the translations of God's Word in the Koine Greek which is inspired by God. By far the **WORST EXANPLE** is: After Mark 16:8 all of the major translations **EXCEPT THE KING JAMES VERSION** have a footnote which reads: "The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20."
And Mark 16:16-18: Wrongly states: "Whoever believes and is **BAPTIZED WILL BE SAVED** .... And these signs will accompany those who believe: In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up snakes with their hands, and they will **DRINK DEADLY POISON, it will not hurt them at all; they will **PLACE THEIR HANDS** on sick people, and they will get well??"
By comparing other Scripture with these mistakes we know that Baptismal Regeneration is wrong and even in the early church not every saint spoke in other languages. and there is not one other Scripture that tells us to **DRINK DEADLY POISON** and to **PICK UP SNAKES** some of which are deadly. There is also a Scripture which contradicts **PLACING HANDS ON SICK PEOPLE WILL MAKE THEM WELL** in James 5:14,15!
However if you believe the KJV version is infallible you must then also believe that all of the above Satanic Heresies are also the inspired **WORDS OF GOD**!!
Of course those denominations which believe in Baptismal Regeneration and many Charismatic churches believe these verses are the inspired words of God thus agreeing with the KJV version???
And so the KJV version is the only version that implies that the **EXTEMELY SATANIC** Mark 16:16-18 are the inspired Words of God. The KJV version is also written in 16th Century English which is very hard for 20th Century Christians to understand.
The origin of the term **EASTER** for the feast of Christ’s Resurrection has been popularly considered to be from the Anglo-Saxon **EASTRE**, a goddess of spring and the evil Queen of Heaven. {Read Jeremiah 44:22-25 about the very evil **QUEEN OF HEAVEN**}
The KJV version is the only version that translates the Greek word **PASCHA** as **EASTER** in Acts 12:4 and all other major translations correctly translate the Greek word **PASCHA** as **PASSOVER**!! {Read Jeremiah 44::22-25 about the extremely evil **QUEEN OF HEAVEN**}
"The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20." Which the KJV version claims is the inspired Word of God???
The KJV defenders also quote Colossians 1:14 which includes the blood of Christ in the KJV version and in all the other major translations the blood of Christ is not mentioned in Colossians 1:14. However the KJV version includes many verses which are not used in the most ancient manuscripts and which are rightfully not accepted by all the other major translations. And the KJV had some very liberal Episcopal translators!
However, the blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sins is mentioned many times in the earliest Greek manuscripts in very easy to understand 20th Century English translations, such as:
Matthew 26:28: Jesus says, "This is **MY BLOOD** of the covenant, which is poured out for many **FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**!"
Hebrews 9:12: He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by **HIS OWN BLOOD**, having obtained **ETERNAL REDEMPTION**!
Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with **BLOOD**, and without the shedding of **BLOOD** **THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages to do away with sin **BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, and Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people, and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!
Ephesians 2:13: But now in Christ Jesus you who were once were far away have been brought near **THROUGH THE BLOOD OF CHRIST**!!
Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!
Colossians 1:15-20: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, all things were created by Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. And He is the **HEAD OF HIS BODY, THE CHURCH**; He is the beginning and the firstborn from the dead, so that is **EVERYTHING HE MIGHT HAVE THE SUPREMACY**. For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things **ON EARTH** or things in heaven, by making peace **THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, shed on the cross!!
Ephesians 1:3-8; 11: Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with **EVERY** spiritual blessing in Christ. For He chose us in Him before the creation of the world to be holy and **BLAMELESS** in His sight. In love He predestined us to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His **GLORIOUS GRACE**, which He has freely given us in the One He loves. In Him we have **REDEMPTION THROUGH HIS BLOOD**, **THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS**, in accordance the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding!!
I Peter 1:18,19: For you know that was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were **REDEEMED** from the empty way of life handed down to you by your forefathers, but with the **PRECIOUS BLOOD OF CHRIST**, Lamb without blemish or defect!!
Revelation 1:4,5: Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful Witness... To Him who loves us and freed us from our sins **BY HIS BLOOD**!!
NOTE: Jesus Christ our Savior is called the **LAMB** of God **30 TIMES** in the book of Revelation because He did away with all lamb sacrifices for sin by the sacrifice of Himself!!
Revelation 5:6,9: Then I saw a **LAMB**, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne...You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals because You were slain, and **WITH YOUR BLOOD** You purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation!!
Revelation 12:11: They overcame him by the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB** and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!!
Revelation 7:14: These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation, they have was their robes and made them white in the **BLOOD OF THE LAMB**!!
Romans 5:6-10: You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless. Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates His love for us in this: While we were still sinners Christ died for us. Since we are now justified **BY HIS BLOOD**, how much more will we be saved from God's wrath through Him! When we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to Him **THROUGH THE DEATH OF HIS SON**!!
KJV-only, you continue to confuse the entire translation debate by a flux of false information, false accusations and out right lies.
First of all, James White is not against the KJV translation. His appreciation and praise for the KJV, is quite apparent in his writing. It’s the Bible he grew up with, but he is aware of its limitations
Second of all, I have not consulted his material in any of my CDFF posts. When I do, I will credit him for anything I use.
You and your fellow cultists, known as KJV-Onlyists, malign anyone exposing your demonic cult.
You despise James White and others because they exposes the lies behind the KJV-onlyism cult.
You falsely claim (lie) about James White as if he is against the KJV Bible. The truth is, James White is exposing the lies behind the KJV-Onlyists cult as they maliciously malign all other translations and translators.
Slander against these people is serious and it is a sin.
There’s a huge difference between defending the venerable KJV Bible and exposing the KJV-Onlyist cult.
I’ve stressed this fact often but you continue to ignore it as you do all the other facts that challenge KJV-Only cult activities and leadership
You’re acting irresponsibly by ignoring that fact and all the other incriminating facts exposing your KJV-Onlyist cult
You are inexcusably ignorant of the entire Bible translation process because you’ve willfully allowed yourself to be blindsided exclusively by your cult’s selective deceptive sourcing.
It’s like you’re behaving faithfully and obediently by conforming to the cults unorthodox practices and beliefs without hesitation or question—just like any other cult follower and devotee would—and whose leader would expect nothing less
You and your fellow cultists, known as KJV-Onlyists, malign anyone exposing your demonic cult.
You despise James White and others because they exposes the lies behind the KJV-onlyism cult.
You falsely claim (lie) about James White as if he is against the KJV Bible. The truth is, James White is exposing the lies behind the KJV-Onlyists cult as they maliciously malign all other translations and translators.
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8 times I counted you saying the word "cult" in one post!!! Wow! talk about brainwashing!! That is what White does is repeat that word. The BIG lie is a propaganda technique and logical fallacy trick. Adolph Hitler coined the term in his book Mein Kampf (My struggles) and Plato used the concept of a Noble lie to further and agenda in his book The Republic.
So since I HAVE NOT read ANY Gail Riplinger books (and I think you see me as another Riplinger) how do you even postulate such a connection based summarily on my hallmark presentation since I have not been brainwashed by her "cultish" promulgations???
I heard about the "conspiracy" several years ago and since I have a love for the truth where ever it leads me , I could clearly see a distinct ominous change to the WORD .The same WORD that Elohim exalts above His own NAME. Psalms 138:2
Modern translations take away from the Diety of Christ. Christ is the WORD made flesh! John 1:14
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
I take this bible matter VERY seriously! I will keep on exposing it til my dying breath.
It is actually a LOVING thing to care enough to make enemies of people I want to keep in my life as friends. I hope you don't think me an enemy David. The TRUTH matters more to me than anything right now. I have a responsibility to Y'shua. I answer to Him.
I think many if not all readers of your posts are beginning to observe how you falsely equate the venerable KJV Bible with the cult of KJVonlyism
But then again, you gullibly embrace the flat earth myth and even join atheists in believing that the Bible teaches flat earth mythology. But atheists are at least are one up on you, they believe the flat earth myth is—exactly that—a myth!
But I digress.
It’s interesting that in your lengthy posts consisting of multiple quotes of irrelevance, you never quote a KJVonly—KJV Bible translator!!! That’s because there are >>NO<< KJVonly KJV translators!!!
Knowledge that the KJVonly cult is a recent development continues to escape you.
I don’t know why you attempt making appeals to logic not knowing what it is. Or are you just pasting and coping what someone else said about logic?? Which is it?
Remember I suggested you take a course in Elementary Logic and you thought elementary logic was for children at the elementary grade levels and you took offense?
This is a silly but seriously inexcusable error!!!
You might at least have bothered yourself to look up Elementary Logic online to find out what it is, but instead you gushed your ignorance—-seems that’s getting to be regular a stock and trade