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Posted : 3 Oct, 2019 05:10 AM

Life starts at conception. I have no problem in believing that it does.



Where is the soul an spirit of a man before his natural birth ?



This is a question based on Biblical, Not science.

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Posted : 4 Oct, 2019 08:44 PM

**IS THE 1,000 YEAR FIRST RESURRECTION IN REVELATION 20:4-6 FOR THE 24 ELDERS ON THRONES AND MARTYRS ONLY**??



Jesus promised to 12 Apostles who followed Him {Including Paul?} that they would be given 12 THRONES and the authority to **JUDGE** in Matthew 19:28 & Luke 22:30. In Revelation 4:4 Before the beginning of the Great Tribulation John saw exactly 24 thrones surrounding God's Throne in Heaven. The other 12 thrones were most likely given to 12 prominent OT Elders such as Abraham, Joseph, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, Moses, Elijah, Samuel, Joshua, Noah and Enoch. One of these 24 Elders speaks in Rev 7:13-17 and after the 7TH angel sounds the 7TH and Last Trumpet in Rev 11:15. ONLY the 24 Elders state on the Last Day in Rev 11:16-18: “The time has come for **JUDGING** the dead and for rewarding your saints.”



It is completely obvious that the 1,000 year reign mentioned in Revelation 20:4-6 is for **24 ELDERS** on Thrones and **MARTYRS ONLY** according to God's Word in:



Revelation 20:4,5b,6a: "I saw Thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to *JUDGE* {The 24 Elders} and I saw the souls of those who had been executed {Or beheaded} because of their testimony for Jesus {NT Martyrs} and because of the Word of God {OT Martyrs}. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands {Tribulation Martyrs}. THEY {THE 24 ELDERS & MARTYRS} came to life and reigned with Christ for 1,000 years... This is the **FIRST RESURRECTION**... Blessed and holy are those who have part in the **FIRST RESURRECTION**. Rev 20:5a: “The rest of the dead {Those saints who are not martyrs or the 24 Elders on Thrones} did not come to life **UNTIL** the 1,000 years were **ENDED**.” Which, of course, would be the **SECOND RESURRECTION** at the 2nd Coming of Jesus. There are only TWO RESURRECTIONS for all saints mentioned in Rev 20:4-6: The **FIRST RESURRECTION** is for Martyrs and the 24 Elders **ONLY** and INCLUDES the Tribulation Martyrs. And therefore the **SECOND RESURRECTION** must come on the Last Day of the Great Tribulation and must include all saints {Both OT & NT} who are not martyrs or the 24 Elders on thrones.



God's word states that the Martyrs of the Great Tribulation will participate in the **FIRST RESURRECTION** while the pre-tribbers claim that the Rapture of the Church saints is the **FIRST RESURRECTION** **BEFORE** the Great Tribulation!!



**THIS ABSOLUTELY CONTRDICTS THE PRE-TRIB VIEW THAT THE **FIRST RESURRECTION** IS ONLY FOR CHURCH SAINTS JUST BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION**!!



The Heavenly rewards for the faithful and courageous *MARTYRS* is one of the most important central themes in the book of Revelation. For they will reign with Jesus in Heaven during the 1,000 years before His 2nd Coming; and according to Revelation 7:14-17: They are **BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD** and God will spread His tent over them. They will receive White Robes washed in the blood of the Lamb. Never again will they hunger or thirst and God Himself will wipe every tear from their eyes. Jesus will be their Shepherd and will lead them to springs of Living Water.



At the Beginning of the Great Tribulation we read in:



Revelation 6:9-11: When He {Jesus} opened the 5th seal, I saw under the Altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the Word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign Lord, Holy and True, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?" Then each of them were given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer untill the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were to be killed just as they had been! {And so the Martyrs are **AWAKE** and **TALKING TO GOD** with **HEAVENLY BODIES** **BEFORE** the 2nd Coming of Jesus when those who are not Martyrs or the 24 Elders will be awakened and receive their new heavenly bodies!



Then just before the 7 trumpet plagues in Revelation 8 we read in:



Revelation 7:9,13-15: There before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing **BEFORE THE THRONE and before the **LAMB**. They were wearing white robes... Then of the {24} Elders asked me, "These in white robes--who are they and where did they come from?" I answered, "Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they who have come out of the **GREAT TRIBULATION** {**MARTYRS**Like Jesus} they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the **LAMB**! Therefore, "They are **BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD** and **SERVE HIM** day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will shelter them with His presence!" {And so the Tribulation martyrs are also Awake before God's throne and **SERVE GOD** **BEFORE** the 2nd Coming of Jesus!!}



FOR EXAMPLE: Let us suppose that the that the 1260-day Great Tribulation begins June 6th, 2018; and would therefore end 1260 days later on November 17th, 2021. Then the continuous 1,000 year FIRST RESURRECTION for MARTYRS AND 24 ELDERS ONLY would take place from November 17th, AD 1021 to November 17th, 2021. The 24 Elders and all of the OT & NT saints martyred before November 17th, 1021 were awakened to reign with Jesus in Heaven and every Martyr martyred after November 17th, 1021 were and will be immediately awakened to reign with Jesus in the continuous 1,000 year FIRST RESURRECTION to be completed on November 17th, 2021 at the SECOND RESURRECTION when "The rest of the dead come to life when the thousand years are ENDED."



The **24 ELDERS** are mentioned 12 times in Revelation 4:4,10; 5:5,6,8,11,14; 7:11,13; 11:16; 14:3 and 19:4. The **MARTYRS** are mentioned over 20 times in Revelation 6:9-11; 7:9-17; 12:11; 14:1-5,13; 15:2-4; 16:6; 17:6; 18:24 an 19:2!! The **24 ELDERS** and the **MARTYRS** like Jesus are the **ONLY SAINTS** mentioned who are awake, before God's throne, talking to God and have their eternal heavenly bodies in Revelation. All the rest of the saints are asleep in Jesus until the **SECOND RESURRECTION** at the Second Coming of Jesus when they will be awakened and receive their new heavenly bodies. And their is absolutely no mention of all the **CHURCH SAINTS** that were supposedly raptured **BEFORE** the tribulation according to the pre-trib fairy tale!!



I Corinthians 15:50-52 I declare to you brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God, . Listen I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep {Since the **24 ELDERS & **MARTYRS ARE AWAKE**} but we will all be changed --in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the Last {7TH} trumpet. For the {7TH & LAST} trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed!!



Since all the saints will receive new heavenly bodies and all the unsaved will be sent to hell as per Matthew 25:31-46, there would no one left to inhabit a future 1,000 year Millenium!!



This seems to contradict John 6:40: Jesus says, “EVERYONE who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life and I will raise him up at the LAST DAY.” However, the LAST DAY RESURRECTION could last 1,000 years for in 2 Pet 3:8 we read: “With the Lord a DAY is like 1,000 years, and 1,000 years are like a DAY!!



Revelation 12:11: They triumphed over him {666} by the blood of the **LAMB** and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death!



Revelation 2:10: Jesus promised, "Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of **LIFE**!!"



NOW THE PREMILLENIEST BELIEVES THAT DURING A 1,000 YEAR REIGN OF CHRIST **AFTER** THE LAST DAY THE LORD JESUS WILL REIGN IN THE EZEKIEL TEMPLE MEENTIONED IN EZEKIEL CHAPTERS 40-48 WHERE THERE WILL BE ANIMAL SACRIFICES TO MAKE ATONEMENT FOR SINS**???



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



Isaiah 1:11: "The multitude of your sacrifices--what are they to Me?" says the Lord. "I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats!"



Jeremiah 6:20: The Lord says, "Your burnt offerings are not acceptable; your sacrifices do not please Me!!"



Hebrews 10:8-10: First He said, "Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings You did not desire, nor were You pleased with them," although the law required them to be made. Then He said, "Here I am, I have come to do Your will." He sets aside the first **TO ESTABLISH THE SECOND**. And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ **ONCE FOR ALL**!!



Hebrews 9:22; 26-28: The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood **THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS**.... But now He has appeared **ONCE FOR ALL** at the end of the ages to do away with sin **BY THE SACRIFICE OF HIMSELF**!! Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, and Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people, and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him!!

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Posted : 4 Oct, 2019 09:04 PM

Richard7744 writes,



"**IS THE 1,000 YEAR FIRST RESURRECTION IN REVELATION 20:4-6 FOR THE 24 ELDERS ON THRONES AND MARTYRS ONLY**??"



"Revelation 20:4,5b,6a: "I saw Thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to *JUDGE* {The 24 Elders} and I saw the souls of those who had been executed {Or beheaded} because of their testimony for Jesus {NT Martyrs} and because of the Word of God {OT Martyrs}. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands {Tribulation Martyrs}. THEY {THE 24 ELDERS & MARTYRS} came to life and reigned with Christ for 1,000 years... This is the **FIRST RESURRECTION**... Blessed and holy are those who have part in the **FIRST RESURRECTION**. Rev 20:5a: “The rest of the dead {Those saints who are not martyrs or the 24 Elders on Thrones} did not come to life **UNTIL** the 1,000 years were **ENDED**.” Which, of course, would be the **SECOND RESURRECTION** at the 2nd Coming of Jesus. There are only TWO RESURRECTIONS for all saints mentioned in Rev 20:4-6: The **FIRST RESURRECTION** is for Martyrs and the 24 Elders **ONLY** and INCLUDES the Tribulation Martyrs. And therefore the **SECOND RESURRECTION** must come on the Last Day of the Great Tribulation and must include all saints {Both OT & NT} who are not martyrs or the 24 Elders on thrones."



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Friends, Richard7744 is such a confused old man and shockingly adds words to the Bible, as I have shown him doing many times before! Just look at what he posted above, just this small portion of his massive post and yet what he says in his own words that he adds to the Bible. Read the passages in your own Bibles of Rev 20:4 thru 6, that he takes out of context to the rest of that chapter!



The chapter STARTS with satan "bound"(KJV) for a 1000 years (Richard leaves that out!) in verses 1 thru 3 but satan will be released from that figurative binding "for a little season" (KJV) in verse 3. Please note friends that verses 4 thru 6 says NOTHING of "24 Elders" as Richard7744 falsely claims! Read it for yourself! He is nothing but a distraction to all threads here and is a FALSE TEACHER! Verses 4 thru 6 is all about YHWH's people that will be involved (witnesses) to YHWH's judgment thru His Son on His throne and they will "reign" with Yah'shua (YHWH's Word in the flesh!) for a 1000 years, verse 4. Note also that YHWH's people (souls/persons) never took the mark of the beast and some of those souls/persons were "beheaded" (KJV) or killed because they refused to not take the mark, nor did they worship the beast! These are ALL through the ages of YHWH's people that are raised to life from the grave (1st resurrection verse 5), His faithful people from every nation!



But what about the wicked, the unrighteous? They "lived not again until the 1000 years were finished" (KJV) because they are all dead! The wicked and unrighteous that are alive at His second coming are destroyed by "the brightness of His coming" 2 Thess 2:8! The rest of the dead wicked and unrighteous that stay dead at His 1st resurrection are then raised in the 2nd resurrection (and

eventually suffer a 2nd death) unto judgment in Rev. 20:11 thru 13! The wicked and unrighteous attack the holy city, verse 8 and 9. But YHWH "devoured them" (KJV) as well as the devil and false prophet to death in the lake of fire! (verses 9 & 10).



So what comes in the end of judgment by YHWH in this chapter 20 of Revelation? All the wicked and unrighteous DIE in the lake of fire! Even DEATH and HELL is thrown into the lake of fire! Its all the final second death of all the lost!



Rev 20:15 "And DEATH and HELL were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."



Is it obvious that hell was never the burning place for sinners to begin with but hell is cast into the burning place which someday will be made, called the lake of fire. Correct?

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Posted : 5 Oct, 2019 05:23 AM

Satan.'s followers like Grace and **FLAT EARTH** TeddyHugger hate all Bible studies!



**JESUS SAYS NEVER MAKE AN OATH, AND LOVE AND FORGIVE ALL YOUR ENEMIES**



In the OT God ordered Israel to kill their enemies many times and God helped them do it. However in the NT Jesus commands in Luke 6:27-29: "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also."



Matthew 5:43,44: Jesus says, "You have heard that is was said, {in the OT} 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you. love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven!!"



Whereas in the OT in Leviticus 26:7,8: God said to Israel, "You will pursue your enemies, and they will fall by the **SWORD** before you. Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will chase ten thousand, and your enemies will fall by the **SWORD** before you!"



Numbers 25:16,17" The Lord said to Moses, "Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them!"



Numbers 32:20,21: Moses said to them, "if you will do this--if you will arm yourselves before the Lord for battle and if all of you who are armed cross over the Jordan before the Lord until He has driven out His enemies out before Him!!"



Deuteronomy 6:18,19: Do what is right and good in the Lord's sight, that it may go well with you and you may go in and take over the good land the Lord has promised on oath to your ancestors, **THRUSTING OUT ALL YOUR ENEMIES BEFORE YOU**, as the Lord said!



Deuteronomy 23:14: For the Lord your God moves about in your camp to protect you and to deliver your enemies to you!



Deuteronomy 28:7 The Lord will grant that your enemies who go up against you will be defeated before you!



Deuteronomy 30:7: The Lord your God will put all these curses on your enemies who hate and persecute you!



Another OT command in Exodus 21:23-25 "If there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise."



This was also changed by these NT commands by Jesus:



Matthew 5:38,39: Jesus commands, "You have heard that it was said {In Exodus 21:23-25 above}, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek turn to him the other also!"



Luke 6:27-29: Jesus commands, "LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you. do not demand it back!"



Luke 6:27-30: Jesus says, "Love your enemies, do good to those that hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to everyone who asks you, and if someone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back!"



Luke 6:33-36: Love your enemies, do good to them and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your **REWARD** will be great and you will be children of the Most High because He is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as you Father is merciful!"



Matthew 18:21,22: Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother or sister {or wife} who sins against me? Up to 7 times?" Jesus answered, "I tell you not 7 times but 77 times!" {Also can be translated 70 times 7 times!}



I Peter 3:9: Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing, because to this you were called that you may **INHERIT A BLESSING**!



Matthew 5:9: Jesus the **PRINCE OF PEACE** says, "Blessed are the **PEACEMAKERS**, for they will be called the **CHILDREN OF GOD**!"



2 Corinthians 10:3-5: For though we live in the world, **WE DO NOT MAKE WAR AS THE WORLD DOES**! The weapons we fight with **ARE NOT THE WEAPONS OF THE WORLD**. On the contrary, they have **DIVINE POWER** to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God!



Ephesians 6:17: Take the helmet of salvation and the **SWORD** OF THE SPIRIT** which is the **WORD OF GOD**!!



I Peter 2:20-23: If you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His steps.... When they hurled their insults at Him, He did not retaliate; when He suffered, He made no threats. Instead He entrusted Himself to Him who judges Justly!



I Peter 3:8,9,11: Finally, all of you, be like minded, be sympathetic, love one another, be compassionate and humble. **DO NOT REPAY EVIL FOR EVIL** or insult with insult. On the contrary, **REPAY EVIL WITH BLESSING**, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing. For... "They must turn from evil and do good; they **MUST SEEK PEACE AND PURSUE IT**!"



Romans 14:17-19: For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, **PEACE** and joy in the Holy Spirit, because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God an receives human approval. Let us therefore make every effort to do **WHAT LEADS TO PEACE**!



Hebrews 12:14 Make every effort **TO LIVE IN PEACE WITH EVERYONE**!



Matthew 5:43-45: Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' {As per the OT}. But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven!"



Matthew 6:14,15: Jesus says, "If you forgive other people who sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive others their sins, you Father will not forgive your sins!"



John 18:36: Jesus says, "My Kingdom is not of this world. If it were, My servants would fight to prevent My arrest. But now My Kingdom is from another place!"



Luke 23:33,34: When they came to the place of the Skull, they crucified Him there... Jesus said, "Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing!"



Romans 12:19-21: Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. On the contrary: If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty give him something to drink. In doing this you will heap burning coals on his head. Do not be overcome by evil, but **OVERCOME EVIL WITH GOOD**!



I Peter 4:8-10: Above all, **LOVE** each other deeply, because **LOVE** covers over a multitude of sins. Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling. Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms!



Colossians 3:12-15: As God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. And over all these virtues put on **LOVE**, which binds them all together in perfect unity! Let the **PEACE OF CHRIST** rule in your hearts. since of members of one body, you were **CALLED TO PEACE**!



Isaiah 9:6,7: For unto us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, and **PRINCE OF PEACE**. Of the greatness of His government and **PEACE** there will be no end!!



Ephesians 4:31,32: Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with **ANY FORM OF MALICE**. Be kind and compassionate to one another just as in Christ God forgave you!!



What is the OT command concerning *VOWS* and *OATHS*?? Numbers 30:2: Moses said, "This is what the Lord commands: When a man makes a *VOW* to the Lord or takes an *OATH* to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said!"



But what are the NT commands concerning making *VOWS* and **OATHS*??



James 5:12: "ABOVE ALL, my brothers, do not swear--not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. Let your "Yes" be yes, and your "No," no, or you will be condemned.!!"



Matthew 5:33-37: Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said to your people long ago {Numbers 30:2 above}, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' BUT I tell you, Do not swear at all....Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No, 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one!!"



Federal law requires everyone who enlists or re-enlists in the Armed Forces of the United States to take the enlistment **OATH**!



The **OATH** of enlistment is administered by any commissioned officer to any person enlisting or re-enlisting for a term of service into any branch of the military.



The military **OATH** of enlistment (re-enlistment) is fairly straightforward for most military personnel. It's administered by a superior officer, and carried out like most traditional oaths, with the officer reading the oath and the person being sworn repeating it.



**OATH** for US Armed Forces except for the National Guard after raising their right hand:



I, (NAME), do **SOLEMNLY SWEAR** that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. **SO HELP ME GOD**.



And so anyone who **SOLEMNLY SWEARS**.. **SO HELP ME GOD** and who **KILLS HIS ENEMIES** is breaking two New Covenant Commands of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, even Armed Forces Medics and Chaplains have to take this **OATH**!



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and **ON EARTH** has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations...teaching them to obey **EVERYTHING** I have commanded you and surely I am **WITH YOU ALWAYS**, to the very end of the age!!"



Matthew 10:27: Jesus says, "What I tell you in the dark, **SPEAK** in the daylight; what I whisper in your ear **PROCLAIM FROM THE HOUSETOPS**!!"

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Posted : 5 Oct, 2019 09:51 AM

Little David: Grace believes that all Bible translations have very serious errors and claims that all the Scriptures I quote are out of context. This greatly discourages anyone from studying God's Word unless they are a Greek scholar. God certainly wouldn't have inspired the writing of His NT Word and not inspired many Greek scholars from correctly translating it even though there may be a few minor errors.



Ridiculous Grace quote:



"To study the Word one must show the definition of words, along with the tense of the words. The original meaning, and whether a word is singular, or plural."



I certainly am ready and eager to discuss the Scriptures I quote when someone quotes Scripture to defend their different interpretation. However Grace never quotes Scripture when attacking my interpretations he just claims the Scripture I quote is out of context, or was wrongly translated from the original Greek which is ridiculous since Grace is not a Greek scholar.



*}**DOES GOD'S WORD SAY THAT *ADDING** OR **TAKING WORDS** AWAY FROM GOD'S WORD IS A SIN**??



Deuteronomy 4:2: The Lord said, "Do not **ADD** to what I command you and do not **SUBTRACT** from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you!!"



Deuteronomy 12:32: The Lord said, "See that you do all I command you, do not **ADD** to it or **TAKE AWAY** from it!!"



Proverbs 30:5,6: Every Word of God is **FLAWLESS**, He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him! Do not **ADD* to His Words, or He will rebuke you and prove you a **LIAR**!!



Deuteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among your fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them **EVERYTHING** I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name!!"



John 14:21-24: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me... Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching, My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them.. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me!" {See Deut 18:17-19 above}



Acts 5:32: We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given **TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM**!"



Luke 6:46-49: Jesus says, "As for everyone who comes to Me and hears **MY WORDS** and **PUTS THEM INTO PRACTICE**. I will show you what they are like. They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid foundation on rock. When the flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears **MY WORDS** and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete!"



I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, God's love is truly made complete in him!



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



Acts 20:32: Paul says, "Now I commit you to God and to the **WORD OF HIS GRACE**, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified!"



Romans 10:17: Consequently, **FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE MESSAGE**, and the message is heard **THROUGH THE WORD OF CHRIST**!



James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!



I Corinthians 15:2: By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the **WORD** preached to you. Otherwise you have believed in vain!



2 Corinthians 4:2: We do not use deception, nor do we distort the **WORD OF GOD**!



Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD** of Truth, the gospel of your salvation.



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



Colossians 1:25: I have become its servant by the commission God gave to me to present to you the **WORD OF GOD IN ALL ITS FULLNESS**!



Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!



I Thessalonians 2:13: We thank God continually because, when you received the **WORD OF GOD**, which you heard from us, you received it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the **WORD OF GOD**!



Acts 17:11,12: Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and **EXAMINED THE SCRIPTURES EVERY DAY**... As a result many of them believed!!



Psalm 118:147,148: I rise before dawn and cry for help; I have put my hope in **YOUR WORD**! My eyes stay open through the watches of the night, that I might meditate on **YOUR PROMISES**!!



2 Timothy 2:15: Do your best to present yourselves to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who **CORRECTLY HANDLES THE WORD ** of truth!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!}



**DOES GOD"S WORD SAY THAT **ADDING** OR **TAKING WORD'S AWAY** FROM GOD's WORD IS AN UMPARDONABLE SIN**??



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the **WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK**: If anyone **ADDS** {Like the RC popes} anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including **ETERNAL HELL**} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like the RC popes} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."



THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”

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Posted : 6 Oct, 2019 07:09 AM

Why cannot you stay on Topic !!



You are not in discussion pushing LONG postings over and over.



Thats not lead by the right Spirit.

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Posted : 7 Oct, 2019 05:42 AM

Little David: I think your posts would be a lot more powerful and inspired if you quoted the Word of God!



**DOES GOD'S WORD SAY THAT *ADDING** OR **TAKING WORDS** AWAY FROM GOD'S WORD IS A SIN**??



Deuteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among your fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them **EVERYTHING** I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name!!"



John 14:21-24: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me... Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching, My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them.. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me!" {See Deut 18:17-19 above}



Acts 5:32: We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given **TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM**!"



Luke 6:46-49: Jesus says, "As for everyone who comes to Me and hears **MY WORDS** and **PUTS THEM INTO PRACTICE**. I will show you what they are like. They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid foundation on rock. When the flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears **MY WORDS** and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete!"



I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, God's love is truly made complete in him!



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



Acts 20:32: Paul says, "Now I commit you to God and to the **WORD OF HIS GRACE**, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified!"



Romans 10:17: Consequently, **FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE MESSAGE**, and the message is heard **THROUGH THE WORD OF CHRIST**!



James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!



I Corinthians 15:2: By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the **WORD** preached to you. Otherwise you have believed in vain!



2 Corinthians 4:2: We do not use deception, nor do we distort the **WORD OF GOD**!



Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD** of Truth, the gospel of your salvation.



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



Colossians 1:25: I have become its servant by the commission God gave to me to present to you the **WORD OF GOD IN ALL ITS FULLNESS**!



Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!



I Thessalonians 2:13: We thank God continually because, when you received the **WORD OF GOD**, which you heard from us, you received it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the **WORD OF GOD**!



Acts 17:11,12: Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and **EXAMINED THE SCRIPTURES EVERY DAY**... As a result many of them believed!!



Psalm 118:147,148: I rise before dawn and cry for help; I have put my hope in **YOUR WORD**! My eyes stay open through the watches of the night, that I might meditate on **YOUR PROMISES**!!



2 Timothy 2:15: Do your best to present yourselves to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who **CORRECTLY HANDLES THE WORD ** of truth!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching,

ebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!}



**DOES GOD"S WORD SAY THAT **ADDING** OR **TAKING WORD'S AWAY** FROM GOD's WORD IS AN UMPARDONABLE SIN**??



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the **WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK**: If anyone **ADDS** {Like the RC popes} anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including **ETERNAL HELL**} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like the RC popes} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."



THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”

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Posted : 7 Oct, 2019 12:45 PM

You sir ruin members topics !



Very disrespectful.

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Posted : 7 Oct, 2019 02:31 PM

It's important to study the Old and new testament. It's all God's Word.

We are now living under Grace not the Law ! Jesus said it is finished last words after being crucified on the cross, before His Spirit went back to God.



EVERYTHING we Believers need is in Jesus Christ.

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Posted : 7 Oct, 2019 02:33 PM

You members here are getting WAY off topic of thread .



Start your Own threads !

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