13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Any thoughts?
Jesus made a second exodus , an escape from sin. An escape from slavery and oppression.
But what about what Paul says about being a wretched man? Do you think we take him out of context as Romans 7:14 seems to suggest that he is sold under sin?
KJO! Did you forget the spot on verse to the question of your very own thread??? Its answers your "riddle" of 1 Corinthians and chapter 5! Lol! Evidence below!
KJO writes - 1 Corinthians 10:13 "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." Any thoughts?
Also if your making the assumption that a human "spirit" can exist outside a human "body" then that would be another forum discussion/thread and easily proven by Scripture that it is not so.
KJO writes - "A Christian is also called by Scripture to maintain a repentant heart, routinely acknowledging sin and seeking God's grace and mercy in the midst of his daily mistakes. These activities are not done with the intent to secure or maintain salvation, yet they are expected nonetheless."
Its a CHOICE to sin or not! Has nothing to do with maintenance of salvation! You cannot "maintain salvation" or earn it but you can choose to lose it! Salvation is a free gift after repentance (all your past ONLY sins are forgiven) and then you follow in the footsteps of Yah'shua that lived a perfect life in the Torah Law, prayed to His Father daily just as we should, to tap into that perfect power.
How can you "maintain salvation" if your not sinning anyway, why would you need to? What would be the point? Lol! So you assume "Christains" make daily mistakes? Then they are not "Christains" but sinners! Do you think these type of "Christains" go to heaven, doing the MASS thing everyday? Is it really that hard to keep Yah's Law by His power and might?
**THE SATANIC TEACHING OF SINLESS PERFECTION BEFORE WE GET TO HEAVEN**
2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!} be prepared in season and out of season, correct. rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn from the truth and turn aside to myths. {Like **SINLESS PERFECTION THE MOMENT WE ARE SAVED**}
Matthew 18:10-14: Jesus said, “Two men went up to the temple to **PRAY**, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee {Like Adam7777} stood up and **PRAYED** about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' But the tax collector stood at a distance, He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, '**GOD, HAVE MERCY ON ME, A SINNER**'!!.'"I tell you that this man rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted!”
Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"
I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!
John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"
Matthew 5:48: Jesus says, "Be perfect **AS YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT**!!"
Every born from above saint will try to obey the above four New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above 4 commands of God!!!
Isaiah 55:8,9: God says, "My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts!!"
Mark 10:18: Jesus says, "No one is good--except God alone!!"
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My words. The very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!"
Romans 7:14-20,25: The Apostle Paul says, "We know that the law is spiritual, but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do --**THIS I KEEP ON DOING**. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it!... So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin."
He who is born again does not **CONTINUALLY** sin, and is not a **HABITUAL** sinner as he was before he came to know Jesus. The born again believer has no urge to sin as he once did, because he was driven only by his fallen nature. He who is born again will not continue in, or like their sin. If anyone continually and habitually sins, and does not feel ill about it, it may prove that he has **NEVER** been spiritually renewed.
The closer we grow in our relationship with Jesus Christ, the more we will see our sinfulness. To claim that we are no longer a sinner in any fashion, and no longer sin, shows how far away we are from the Lord and His word. God's saints are not good all the time like God and are not **SINLESS** but they **SIN FAR LESS**. The man who claims any perfection except that perfection which we have in Christ, is a hypocrite. He is not sinless in the flesh, and simply lies if he says that he is. He is exactly like the Pharisees of old, who thought that they were sinless in the flesh also. Only when we are delivered from "this body of death," will we be delivered from sin completely.
The alleged "sinless perfection" that results from "sanctification" is a monstrous doctrine that plays right into the hands of Satan. Believing this doctrine, one man claimed, “Since I have been sanctified, every impulse or desire to sin has been completely erased from my heart!” This statement indicates a totally false sense of spiritual security and immunity to sin. Such a position makes repentance, confession, and the need of forgiveness of sins logically inapplicable, if not impossible.
I John 1:3-10: We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you may have fellowship with us... We write this to make **OUR JOY COMPLETE**. This is the message we have heard **FROM HIM** and declare to you: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. **IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and **HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!
And so those who believe in **SINLESS PERFECTION** make **GOD A LIAR** and the **TRUTH IS NOT IN THEM**!!
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach **US** to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
I Corinthians 9:21; Paul says, "I am under **CHRIST'S LAW**!!"
Galatians 6:1-3: Is someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore him gently... Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!
Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man shall live by **EVERY WORD** that comes from the mouth of God!"
James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!
Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"{And yet God says that David is a man after my own heart as per Acts 13:22**} And Jesus says, "I am the Root and Offspring of David!" in Revelation 22:16!!}
Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"
Galatians 2:11-13: Paul was inspired to write, "When Cephas {Peter} came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because **HE STOOD CONDEMNED**. For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in **HIS HYPOCRISY, so that by their hypocrisy even **BARNABAS WAS LED ASTRAY**!"
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Galatians 6:1: Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you may also be tempted. Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the law of Christ!!
I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN FROM ABOVE**, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through **THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD. For, all people are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER** And this is the word that was preached to you!
Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.
**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!”
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"
2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or ***BAD***.
Luke 18:19 and Mark 10:18; Jesus says, "No on is good except God alone!" Those who are born from above do many good works that will be **ETERNALLY REWARDED** but only God is good **ALL THE TIME**. The sins a believer does will also be deducted from their **ETERNAL REWARDS** especially if the believer does not repent and ask forgiveness for some of his sins that he knows are sins.
There are about 400 commandments in the New Covenant and a young believer will not know a lot of these 400 NT commands and James 4:17 says: If anyone knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them!!
There are some believers like the thief on the cross who will not have time to do many good works and may not receive any **ETERNAL REWARDS** even though they will be saved!
1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; **HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED**, but only as one escaping through the flames.
Luke 18:10-14: Jesus says, Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: 'God, I thank you that I am no like other people--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get. But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, 'God have mercy on me a sinner.' I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified by God. For all those who exalt themselves {Like Teddyhugger} will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted!!"
Would you actually believe that I am going to be judged for bowing my knee to the "laundry god" last night according to a very knowlegeable person who think he knows ????. Maybe he got this from Ellen White as she was considered a prophetess???
David writes - "Some people misread scripture thinking it means saved people never sin again, thus they hold to the sin producing herecy of perfectionism"
"So the Bible clearly speaks of "perfectionism" by Master Torah Keeper Yah'shua when He said in Matt 5:48 (AMPC) "You, therefore, MUST BE PERFECT" and now according to David He is a liar?
Notice the question mark MOM! He can take care of himself, he does not need mothered!
David is confused that people will still be sinning when Yah returns for His people. Yahweh is ONLY coming for the righteous that are NOT sinning BY His power and might! AND He gives you a way out from sinning!!!!!
1 Corinthians 10:13 "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." Any thoughts?
The context of John is that those that abide in Yah'shua, that this live in Him, live like him which is following Him sinneth NOT! What don't you understand about that KJO?
You have a favorite sin that you need to repent of? Then repent of it and be saved from the penalty of that sin! Be washed clean again!
